DT Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Dusic said: I reckon we will end up compromising with Everton for Dibling. Clear after only loaning Ramsdale that we have banked on cash for either or both of Dibling and Fernandes. I think given Everton's outlay on Grealish's wages it may be more likely that Dibling goes to Palace as an Eze replacement 1
ErwinK1961 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Appy said: Haha I wasn’t far off with my £30,000,001 guess. 5 10
Toussaint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Dusic said: I reckon we will end up compromising with Everton for Dibling. Clear after only loaning Ramsdale that we have banked on cash for either or both of Dibling and Fernandes. Do you think there is still an offer on the table? I’m not so sure that ship hasn’t sailed.
S-Clarke Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Do you think there is still an offer on the table? I’m not so sure that ship hasn’t sailed. Didn't we send them a 'counter offer', which if they agree to will be immediately accepted? I'm sure that's still on the table in their dugouts.
qwertyell Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Saint NL said: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25403497.west-ham-reportedly-make-improved-offer-southamptons-fernandes/ Not sure if this was posted already, but the Echo are reporting that Wham are coming back with an increased offer for Fernandes. Hopefully he'll wake us up before he go goes. 1 5
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Maybe not realistic but wouldn't it be brilliant to keep Dibling and Fernandes and build a team around them. Fernandes is already superb and Dibling can potentially be a superstar. Keep them both and get them on the ball as much as possible. 4
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Hopefully he'll wake us up before he go goes. that article just sounds like careless whispers to me
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Of course they are going to come back in for him. You don't bid £37m and call it a day. I have little doubt they will end up paying the £45m+£5m. He's mustard and Everton know it. Everyone know's it. But not everyone is ideally placed to buy a potential star at the price we want. 1
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 42 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Didn't we send them a 'counter offer', which if they agree to will be immediately accepted? I'm sure that's still on the table in their dugouts. the counter offer story sounded bogus to me.
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 22 minutes ago, saintant said: Maybe not realistic but wouldn't it be brilliant to keep Dibling and Fernandes and build a team around them. Fernandes is already superb and Dibling can potentially be a superstar. Keep them both and get them on the ball as much as possible. If I'm honest I'd rather sell Dibling and bring in the fresh new players that we need. Selling Dibling and bringing in a new 10, rb on loan and top winger woukd improve our chances of promotion a lot. 3
SuperSAINT Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Chez said: the counter offer story sounded bogus to me. Came from Germany - which I thought was odd - but maybe that isn’t so odd.
bugenhagen Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, saintant said: Maybe not realistic but wouldn't it be brilliant to keep Dibling and Fernandes and build a team around them. Fernandes is already superb and Dibling can potentially be a superstar. Keep them both and get them on the ball as much as possible. I agree. One of the most satisfying things watching Saints, after winning, is watching talented players evolve and grow (for us). Sadly, as you start off with, not much of a chance. I am pretty convinced both will leave at the very end of the window. There will be noise every day untill the last few days of August, and then the real bids come that meets our vauluation, just before the window SLAMS shut, and leaves us scrambling, gambling and overpaying for their replacements... 1
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: If I'm honest I'd rather sell Dibling and bring in the fresh new players that we need. Selling Dibling and bringing in a new 10, rb on loan and top winger woukd improve our chances of promotion a lot. This has been our problem - we always sell our best players. If we sell Dibling the replacements will not be of his standard. It's a sure way to stagnate or take backward steps so the team never improves. I'm not for a minute saying it'll be easy to hold on to our stars but if we always sell them how do we improve and build a side that can stand a chance of surviving in the Premier league? 1
gio1saints Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, DT said: I think given Everton's outlay on Grealish's wages it may be more likely that Dibling goes to Palace as an Eze replacement Given it’s a £60m or so contract for EZe do you think they’d go nearer £50m than Everton on Tyler? I think no. But at the least it gives Everton some competition and a bit of a gee up. Palace could try to just give us £35m and throw in Rak saki on top in exchange for Tyler - theoretically that’s about £45m and if we get a good sell on that might be doable?
John B Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, gio1saints said: Given it’s a £60m or so contract for EZe do you think they’d go nearer £50m than Everton on Tyler? I think no. But at the least it gives Everton some competition and a bit of a gee up. Palace could try to just give us £35m and throw in Rak saki on top in exchange for Tyler - theoretically that’s about £45m and if we get a good sell on that might be doable? What makes you think Dibling can replace Eze immediately and perform well in the PL
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, saintant said: This has been our problem - we always sell our best players. If we sell Dibling the replacements will not be of his standard. It's a sure way to stagnate or take backward steps so the team never improves. I'm not for a minute saying it'll be easy to hold on to our stars but if we always sell them how do we improve and build a side that can stand a chance of surviving in the Premier league? Every team apart from about 5 have to sell their best players. Our problem is mostly we have too many misses in the transfer market and we didn't bring in sufficient quality last season and tried to rely on players already here. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 48 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: that article just sounds like careless whispers to me I think Dibling just wants him Freedom. He's been poor since Last Christmas anyway. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 44 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: If I'm honest I'd rather sell Dibling and bring in the fresh new players that we need. Selling Dibling and bringing in a new 10, rb on loan and top winger woukd improve our chances of promotion a lot. We don't want loans, and we still need to shift Edozie and Aribo (and ABK!).
Whitey Grandad Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Incredible 2nd bid 😂 Not even keeping pace with inflation. 1 2
hypochondriac Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said: We don't want loans, and we still need to shift Edozie and Aribo (and ABK!). It doesn't matter what we want it makes financial sense to get one or two loans in. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: It doesn't matter what we want it makes financial sense to get one or two loans in. Sorry, I'm not talking the Royal "We", I'm talking the club. They don't want to be in the same position we were last time we were promoted, being taken to the cleaners to stand still. We want to purchase players to grow with the club.
madge Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago There’s nothing I’ve really seen that suggests that dibling will Be a huge success in the premier league… I think anyone paying over 40m is taking a huge risk. 2
hypochondriac Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Sorry, I'm not talking the Royal "We", I'm talking the club. They don't want to be in the same position we were last time we were promoted, being taken to the cleaners to stand still. We want to purchase players to grow with the club. The likes of brooks were really decent last time and we never looked to sign him. I agree we shouldn't be reliant on too many loans but there is a place for one or two is appropriate. 4
Fabrice29 Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, madge said: There’s nothing I’ve really seen that suggests that dibling will Be a huge success in the premier league… I think anyone paying over 40m is taking a huge risk. There wasn’t many more productive teenagers in the PL last season. That’ll be why might think he’s worth the risk. And the more important question is why we would sell someone who could be very useful in a promotion campaign for less than 40m.
AlexLaw76 Posted 34 minutes ago Posted 34 minutes ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, madge said: There’s nothing I’ve really seen that suggests that dibling will Be a huge success in the premier league… I think anyone paying over 40m is taking a huge risk. I suspect that the price we let Dibling go for will be the lowest fee associated with him over the 8 years or so, unless he goes on a free at some point Edited 34 minutes ago by AlexLaw76
tdmickey3 Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 59 minutes ago, saintant said: This has been our problem - we always sell our best players. If we sell Dibling the replacements will not be of his standard. It's a sure way to stagnate or take backward steps so the team never improves. I'm not for a minute saying it'll be easy to hold on to our stars but if we always sell them how do we improve and build a side that can stand a chance of surviving in the Premier league? Don’t fret mate about that mate, if/ when we get back to PL we will be buying for the championship . 1
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago 59 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Every team apart from about 5 have to sell their best players. Our problem is mostly we have too many misses in the transfer market and we didn't bring in sufficient quality last season and tried to rely on players already here. Exactly this. 1
saintant Posted 15 minutes ago Posted 15 minutes ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Every team apart from about 5 have to sell their best players. Our problem is mostly we have too many misses in the transfer market and we didn't bring in sufficient quality last season and tried to rely on players already here. But it isn't impossible for us to keep both Dibling and Fernandes for at least this season. I get that Dibling will need to be persuaded to sign a new contract but that's not out of the question if we don't get a decent offer for him. With a couple of shrewd loans we could have a really good side that will stand a great chance of promotion. The club need to show some ambition and not be content to just buy and sell to make a profit. Those are the choices - carry on bumbling along as we are or take a few risks and try to re-establish ourselves in the Premier league. If Bournemouth can do it there is no reason we can't. Poor decision making and lack of ambition has got us where we are and it's about time something changed for the better.
Football Special Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago 45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: The likes of brooks were really decent last time and we never looked to sign him. I agree we shouldn't be reliant on too many loans but there is a place for one or two is appropriate. Of course there is, most successful championship teams have a couple of top loans
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