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4 hours ago, Dman said:

Rohl back in the running for Rangers job after Muscat (and Gerrard) turned them down. 

If we let Rohl go into Rangers, when he was clearly our first choice and its clear that Still isn't cut out for it, then I have to question the sanity of this club.

Will be disappointed if Rohl ends up there whilst our muppets stand by and twiddle thumbs. 
 

Dread to think who Saints might end up appointing in the event they part company with Still. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Badger said:

Will be disappointed if Rohl ends up there whilst our muppets stand by and twiddle thumbs. 
 

Dread to think who Saints might end up appointing in the event they part company with Still. 

Wouldn't put it past them to try and re-hire Russ, given that he's available and has experience of getting us promoted from this league.

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We seem to have a fan base of self harmers. When will we learn that you cant keep swaping managers. Give Still a fair crack at it FFS. I always thought that getting rid of Puel was a mistake, and we have lost our way since

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I do not subscribe to the view that Rohl was our "first choice".

We hired Still immediately, in May. There was no prevarication, no options, no approaches, no waiting, no time for rumours or speculation.

Will Still was our first choice this summer and we got him.

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13 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I do not subscribe to the view that Rohl was our "first choice".

We hired Still immediately, in May. There was no prevarication, no options, no approaches, no waiting, no time for rumours or speculation.

Will Still was our first choice this summer and we got him.

I’m not sure. I reckon Rohl could have been top of the list, but as soon as Sheff Wed starting talking about a hefty compensation clause he immediately went out of the reckoning. I seem to recall Sheff Wed’s owner made a very public proclamation about it at the time, could have been 2+2=5 or could’ve been we made an enquiry and got told to stump up.

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27 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I’m not sure. I reckon Rohl could have been top of the list, but as soon as Sheff Wed starting talking about a hefty compensation clause he immediately went out of the reckoning. I seem to recall Sheff Wed’s owner made a very public proclamation about it at the time, could have been 2+2=5 or could’ve been we made an enquiry and got told to stump up.

Well, SWFC were and are skint.

We would have known what it would have taken to get Rohl from back in December but we did not put in an offer, make any move or even sit it out for even a fortnight. 

What we did do is appoint a manager at literally the earliest possible opportunity.

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2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Well, SWFC were and are skint.

We would have known what it would have taken to get Rohl from back in December but we did not put in an offer, make any move or even sit it out for even a fortnight. 

What we did do is appoint a manager at literally the earliest possible opportunity.

I don’t disagree with what you say. I think we knew there was a hefty compensation fee being touted for Rohl and as a consequence he wasn’t really in the running, IMO.

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58 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I do not subscribe to the view that Rohl was our "first choice".

We hired Still immediately, in May. There was no prevarication, no options, no approaches, no waiting, no time for rumours or speculation.

Will Still was our first choice this summer and we got him.

 

42 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I’m not sure. I reckon Rohl could have been top of the list, but as soon as Sheff Wed starting talking about a hefty compensation clause he immediately went out of the reckoning. I seem to recall Sheff Wed’s owner made a very public proclamation about it at the time, could have been 2+2=5 or could’ve been we made an enquiry and got told to stump up.

 

11 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Well, SWFC were and are skint.

We would have known what it would have taken to get Rohl from back in December but we did not put in an offer, make any move or even sit it out for even a fortnight. 

What we did do is appoint a manager at literally the earliest possible opportunity.

 

8 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I don’t disagree with what you say. I think we knew there was a hefty compensation fee being touted for Rohl and as a consequence he wasn’t really in the running, IMO.

Maybe you're both right.... Still and Rohl could've been 'joint top' candidates and they simply ended up going for the one that was the simplest / quickest option out of the two....?

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12 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

 

Maybe you're both right.... Still and Rohl could've been 'joint top' candidates and they simply ended up going for the one that was the simplest / quickest option out of the two....?

Why do you think Rohl was a candidate in 2025 when he was not given the job in 2023 

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4 minutes ago, John B said:

Why do you think Rohl was a candidate in 2025 when he was not given the job in 2023 

 

I've no idea. You're mistaking me for someone who's given it more thought other than to ponder if two posters might each have a point.... :)

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Posted
1 hour ago, OldNick said:

We seem to have a fan base of self harmers. When will we learn that you cant keep swaping managers. Give Still a fair crack at it FFS. I always thought that getting rid of Puel was a mistake, and we have lost our way since

I think he’s shit, but I also think you make a fair point.

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42 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

 

Maybe you're both right.... Still and Rohl could've been 'joint top' candidates and they simply ended up going for the one that was the simplest / quickest option out of the two....?

Not like you to sit on the fence.

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Posted

Still was at SMS towards end of last season, right?

if Rohl was another big candidate, we must have been put off very early. 
 

be interesting to see how he gets on up in Scotland 

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14 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Still was at SMS towards end of last season, right?

if Rohl was another big candidate, we must have been put off very early. 
 

be interesting to see how he gets on up in Scotland 

He's not Rangers first choice, that's for fucking sure.

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1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

I do not subscribe to the view that Rohl was our "first choice".

We hired Still immediately, in May. There was no prevarication, no options, no approaches, no waiting, no time for rumours or speculation.

Will Still was our first choice this summer and we got him.

Gulp!

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Posted
1 hour ago, Maggie May said:

Still is a better manager than Rohl and has achieved more in his career.

It's cast iron facts like this that keep drawing me back to Saintsweb time and time again :)

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1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

I think he’s shit, but I also think you make a fair point.

I'm setting this as my default reply to everything on Saintsweb from now to forever.

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3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Wouldn't put it past them to try and re-hire Russ, given that he's available and has experience of getting us promoted from this league.

Christ, I remember the anger and dread at the prospect of Hoddle coming back in 2004, but that is nothing compared to how I feel at the remote possibility of Lego coming back. 

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Are we too much of a step down for the 2nd coming of Mad Nate?

Anyhow IMHO we need to let Will Still continue to complete the job, we need to sign ‘walk into starting XI’ replacements for: McCarthy, THB, Stephens, Manning, Wellington, Downes, Downs, Archer & Armstrong.  When Will Still has offloaded all the above detritus plus the others that are surplus to requirements then I will judge him.  Currently he’s playing with garbage collected by previous managers.

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Tomorrow will be interesting. If we dominate, fail to score and draw against a pretty decent Bristol City, then I might well start to see us having a plan, square pegs in the right holes, but just missing a finisher. Something which is not 100% WS's fault. But if this is a another disjointed abject display (like Hull), where we look like strangers and barely break sweet, then he can start to fuck off. 

Will Still was not to blame for the 0 against Swansea. 

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On 19/10/2025 at 15:55, benjii said:

It's complete bollocks. Out of the starting XI yesterday:

- Macca: played a handful of games under Martin but was never a long term first choice and it's a tiny part of a long career.

- Jelert: never met RM.

- Edwards: never played under RM, I think.

- Wood: barely played under RM.

- THB: yep, that's one.

- Welly: played about 5 or 10 games under RM?

- Charles: hardly played under RM.

- Jander: never met RM.

- Scienza: ditto.

- Armstrong: yep.

- Archer: barely played under RM.

 

It's cowardly rubbish to blame Martin.

Russell Martin signed for us in June 2023 and was sacked December 2024. As we know both Russ and our DoF insisted on scrapping all that had gone before and starting with a new way of playing. Just because you are not in the first eleven doesn't mean you are not getting it rammed down your throat in training, and being shouted at and ridiculed when you play  with normal thinking. 

Our squad; months exposed to training with Russ

18 - McCarthy, Bazunu, THB, Stephens, Manning, Downes, Aribo, Armstrong, Edozie

17 - Archer

16 - Stewart, Fraser

14 - Charles

6 - Wood, Edwards

That's 15 players in a first team squad of 30. But eight of those players were on the pitch at some point on Saturday, and the players are surrounded by staff and fans who have seen shit results and whippings for 4 out of the last 5 seasons.

Things have improved to my eye as far as not playing quite so many hospital passes, and we even made a couple of quick breaks out of our own half! But the passing it around the defence for the 7 mins of injury time was surely tied up with this training memory, and the experience of having shipped end of game goals endlessly in recent years.

15 hours ago, musesaint said:

THB is a massive part of Saints reverting to Russball when we’re under a bit of pressure. He seems programmed to backwards and sideways passing and can’t break free of that. The very rare times he passed a ball forward on Saturday he either overhit it straight off the pitch or passed it directly to the opposition. Not sure what’s happened to him, even allowing for the disruption caused by his pre season injury. 

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Posted (edited)

According to the BBC article about Rohl's appointment to Rangers he has managed less than 100 professional games. 

Still might be relatively inexperienced, but he has overseen 35% more as manager ~135.

Granted Rohl had more and higher quality experience as an assistant

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Posted
8 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Danny Rohl has hardly pulled up trees. Didn’t he throw his toys out the pram a number of times at Sheffield Wednesday?

Yeah, Sheffield Wednesday… amazed they are still going 

Posted
7 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

According to the BBC article about Rohl's appointment to Rangers he has managed less than 100 professional games. 

Still might be relatively inexperienced, but he has overseen 35% more as manager ~135.

Granted Rohl had more and higher quality experience as an assistant

Not sure I understand what point this is trying to make. Rooney has managed 178 games and is absolutley honking. 

In his short managerial career, he (Rohl) transformed a club in what I would say was probably the hardest job in the country - if not world football at the time. 

Still may have managed more games, but he's (imo) not achieved anything close to what Rohl has.. One will go on to manage at the top level (be that here or germany), the other will go back to france. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I see our local journo (who is actually a Bristol city fan) is bored of explaining to fans how well the system is working for Still

He seems like a bellend, TBF.

Posted
4 minutes ago, benjii said:

He seems like a bellend, TBF.

The Journo, Still or both?

Tbf we seem to attract weird journo's round the club these days who seem obsessed with cosying up to our "influencer" type freaks who plaster their faces on social media. Gone are the days of decent reporters like Graham Hiley who actually realised their job was to report on the club and get out of the way of the story.

But maybe that says more about modern media than anything? It's also performance art "look at me" bollocks now.

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20 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Still was at SMS towards end of last season, right?

if Rohl was another big candidate, we must have been put off very early. 
 

be interesting to see how he gets on up in Scotland 

I think he's going to get eaten alive, personally.

He's another appointment the fans don't want and the mood he's going into there is far more toxic than it was when Martin went in, and look how long he lasted. 

Rohl can do himself a few favours simply by not behaving like as much of an arrogant, aloof twat as Martin did (he can buy a few easy, early brownie points with the fans by wearing their club suit and stuff like that that a lot of their fans take really seriously, and not wanking on about loving the players and all that), but he will need to deliver instant results or they'll turn on him as quickly as they did Rusty. They have got their knives well and truly out for their owners, they see Rohl as those owners taking another massive gamble, and if he doesn't start winning straightaway they'll chew him up and spit him out like they did Martin, just as a means of trying to make the CEO/ DOF's positions untenable and getting them fired. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, Killers Knee said:

Are we too much of a step down for the 2nd coming of Mad Nate?

Rangers will probably appoint him January after Rohl's been run out of town for a 0-0 at home to Kilmarnock. They were looking at Hasenhuttl before appointing Rohl, they appear to be obsessed with us, might as well go for the hat trick. 

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