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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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2 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Middlesbrough were absolutely terrible tonight by all accounts. 

Only a 1-0 win at home to Wednesday was probably the best we could've hoped for tbh. 

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Doctoroncall

Doctoroncall

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14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I don’t care who goes up apart from Saints. Ipswich, on their day, are a better team than Millwall and the one I’d least like to meet in the final.

What if Millwall are on their day?

Saint Pete

Saint Pete

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26 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

I agree. Ipswich have looked a bit crap for weeks now. Millwall haven't. Also Millwall took 4 points off us and outplayed us in both games. 

Yeah, Ipswich should be better but on current form, Millwall look trickier.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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9 hours ago, Doctoroncall said:

What if Millwall are on their day?

They’ll be tough to beat but not as good as peak Ipswich. GD is usually a good indicator of how good a team is over a season and Ipswich’s is far better then Millwall’s.

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Turkish

Turkish

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I just heard of a very odd case. A friend of mine via BUSINESS plays in a semi pro league in the Netherlands. His team are winning 2-1 away at a very rough team and neighbourhood, an opposition player was sent off just before half time for kicking one of their players in the head, sent off for violent conduct a scrap folowed with punches thrown but without further action, the half time whistle went and the opposition 2-1 down and down to 10 men refused to come out for the second half saying one of their players had been racially abused. No evidence of this other than what  had been claimed ref said he didn’t hear anything. 

the match was abandoned and the Dutch FA ordered his team to replay the fixture the following Tuesday to which they refused citing all the reasons above violent conduct from the opposition plus their refusal to complete the initial game etc, they have been given a final chance to fulfil the fixture or face expulsion for the rest of the season and automatic relegation.

thoughts? 

Doctoroncall

Doctoroncall

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12 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

They’ll be tough to beat but not as good as peak Ipswich. GD is usually a good indicator of how good a team is over a season and Ipswich’s is far better then Millwall’s.

They have had a bit of help on that, Ruben Selles’ Sheffield United for one. 

Considering the squad, you’d expect Ipswich to be up there, they were preseason favourites for the title. Just think Millwall have got more about them to get a result. 

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I just heard of a very odd case. A friend of mine via BUSINESS plays in a semi pro league in the Netherlands. His team are winning 2-1 away at a very rough team and neighbourhood, an opposition player was sent off just before half time for kicking one of their players in the head, sent off for violent conduct a scrap folowed with punches thrown but without further action, the half time whistle went and the opposition 2-1 down and down to 10 men refused to come out for the second half saying one of their players had been racially abused. No evidence of this other than what  had been claimed ref said he didn’t hear anything. 

the match was abandoned and the Dutch FA ordered his team to replay the fixture the following Tuesday to which they refused citing all the reasons above violent conduct from the opposition plus their refusal to complete the initial game etc, they have been given a final chance to fulfil the fixture or face expulsion for the rest of the season and automatic relegation.

thoughts? 

It's sad that racial abuse, both real and fictional, seems to be on the rise.

Also, did the Dutch FA not follow AFCON? Something racially unpleasant where a former colonial power has different rules, for walking off the pitch, to the rules followed in Africa.

#article82

Turkish

Turkish

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2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

It's sad that racial abuse, both real and fictional, seems to be on the rise.

Also, did the Dutch FA not follow AFCON? Something racially unpleasant where a former colonial power has different rules, for walking off the pitch, to the rules followed in Africa.

#article82

It’s all very weird. All I can think is that it’s too low level for a proper investigation. He’s good guy I think he’d say if there was racial abuse but they knew nothing about it until the opposition used that as the reason to not fulfil the game. 
 

I might have a slightly bias view but the game was abandoned following violent conduct from an opposition player and their refusal to complete the fixture so why are they being punished? A kick in the head is dangerous and could even be criminal prosecution. 

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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31 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s all very weird. All I can think is that it’s too low level for a proper investigation. He’s good guy I think he’d say if there was racial abuse but they knew nothing about it until the opposition used that as the reason to not fulfil the game. 
 

I might have a slightly bias view but the game was abandoned following violent conduct from an opposition player and their refusal to complete the fixture so why are they being punished? A kick in the head is dangerous and could even be criminal prosecution. 

It's not uncommon for matches to be replayed, where it's not gone past half time.

The Dutch FA may not have rules like Afcon's article 82. They might have balanced the second half non-appearance against potential abusive comments, looked at when the match stopped and felt a replay was the best outcome.

That the opponents were from a rough neighbourhood, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Who knows what was said in a brawl? 

We know only too well that the most liberal, world saviours, can turn out to be racists. So, being a good guy can only go so far. Perhaps, he didn't hear it, but it happened. 

On the other hand, the opponents could have been cynically playing the race card to get away with being a man and a goal down. That's not known for sure.

Play the replay. Don't get goaded. Beat them, and move on. 

 

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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7 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Millwall's top scorer Josh Coburn has gone off very early on with a hip injury.

Leicester doing a number on a few of their players so far.

johnnyboy

johnnyboy

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Souttar of Leicester has just twatted Ivanovic with a proper elbow to the face 😳will be interesting to see if there is similar retrospective punishment for Souttar , looked more deliberate to me than Flyn’s crime with my saints tinted glasses !

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Spurs in real danger of coming down.

Looking at their remaining fixtures, they've got Wolves this weekend but after that you really do have to wonder where they might get the points they need. 

Another 4-5 points for WH should be enough to send them down.

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SNSUN

SNSUN

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3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

They’re not going down either. Spurs or West Ham it is then. 

Win/win scenario for entertainment then. As massive and hilarious as the Spurs relegated story would be, I'd be just as happy with West Ham going down.

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bpsaint

bpsaint

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10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Looking at their remaining fixtures, they've got Wolves this weekend but after that you really do have to wonder where they might get the points they need. 

Another 4-5 points for WH should be enough to send them down.

If Spurs can’t get all 3 points against a teams as bad as wolves that’s got to be it for them surely?

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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15 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Win/win scenario for entertainment then. As massive and hilarious as the Spurs relegated story would be, I'd be just as happy with West Ham going down.

If Spurs come down it makes winning the championship near on impossible next season if we stay down. As funny as it is, a club that size will cake walk the league.

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Jimmy_D

Jimmy_D

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13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

They’re not going down either. Spurs or West Ham it is then. 

Not unless we see a 40+ relegation again. Imagine West Ham going down with 42 points again! :lol: 

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

If Spurs come down it makes winning the championship near on impossible next season if we stay down. As funny as it is, a club that side will cake walk the league.

Didn't many people say the same about Leicester this season?

Spurs coming down would spark a mass exodus of their squad. Even with their massive resources, there's no guarantee that they will get the player/manager recruitment right over the summer to rebuild and be competitive.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

Didn't many people say the same about Leicester this season?

Spurs coming down would spark a mass exodus of their squad. Even with their massive resources, there's no guarantee that they will get the player/manager recruitment right over the summer to rebuild and be competitive.

Not sure why they would say that about Leicester if they did, clearly Spurs are a completely different level. 

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SW5 SAINT

SW5 SAINT

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3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Not sure why they would say that about Leicester if they did, clearly Spurs are a completely different level. 

Not sure why a team as bad as spurs are suddenly going to become competitive….unless they manage to recruit a really outstanding coach….!

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Just now, SW5 SAINT said:

Not sure why a team as bad as spurs are suddenly going to become competitive….unless they manage to recruit a really outstanding coach….!

Someone's forgetting the insane gulf in quality between the Prem and Championship.

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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12 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Leicester holding Millwall at HT. 

If they can somehow find a winner then getting above Millwall will still be in our own hands.

Millwall haven't been great which is surprising as they've been playing well lately.

Sadly Leicester don't look like scoring so maybe a draw is the best we can hope for. 

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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Just now, SW5 SAINT said:

Not sure why a team as bad as spurs are suddenly going to become competitive….unless they manage to recruit a really outstanding coach….!

Don’t be soft, they’ll go straight back up. Just like West Ham & Newcastle have done the past 10 or so years. 

RedArmy

RedArmy

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This is a really, really poor game of football. 
 

Crazy that Millwall could be 2 wins away from the Premier League when they’re struggling to beat a Leicester team that look like they'd rather be anywhere else. 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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13 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said:

Not unless we see a 40+ relegation again. Imagine West Ham going down with 42 points again! :lol: 

They’ll get at least 4 more points. Chelsea and Man U away but those aren’t scary games anymore. Chelsea will turn up when Spurs visit though or their fans will go mental.

Bournemouth at home last day who may be on the beach (no pun intended). 

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Just now, UpweySaint said:

Horrible tackle. Cooper ridiculously lucky not to go for that. 

Ref probably saw the elbow he missed in the first half and is evening up.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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18 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

If Spurs come down it makes winning the championship near on impossible next season if we stay down. As funny as it is, a club that size will cake walk the league.

I'm almost definite that even with the large number of sales they'd have they'd go back up automatically but it'd still be funny watching that happen over the summer. Financially they'd be in unchartered waters too, I'd be interested to know if any of their players have relegation pay cut clauses for instance. 

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