New Manager Debate

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

Jobs for the boys. Seems Spors can't be arsed to hold a proper recruitment process.

[Eagle778]

5 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Jobs for the boys. Seems Spors can't be arsed to hold a proper recruitment process.

They did 4 interviews before recruting Tonda for under 21s so of course there is one in place.

[benjii]

7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Jobs for the boys. Seems Spors can't be arsed to hold a proper recruitment process.

Can't be arsed to move to England, so not surprising. 

[Mr Saints]

11 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

Spors really is a useless twat if true.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, benjii said:

Can't be arsed to move to England, so not surprising. 

Easy Job half-hearted, goes back to Germany in after Jan/Summer

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Eagle778 said:

They did 4 interviews before recruting Tonda for under 21s so of course there is one in place.

And look who got it

[Badger]

15 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Jobs for the boys. Seems Spors can't be arsed to hold a proper recruitment process.

Possibly how we ended up with Still who happened to be conveniently available. 

[Wade Garrett]

35 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Nathan Jones had the whole of the World Cup break to get across his style - we were shite.

Will Still had a whole pre season to get across his style - we were shite.

I’d rather they waited and got the right person than just appoint someone because they’ve got an international break to ‘get across their ideas’ - Poch and Ralph (as recent examples) didn’t seem to have an issue.

You could have given Still and Jones a season and we’d have still been shite because they are shite.  Hardly the basis for an argument.

Give a good manager that time and he’ll use it well.

[aintforever]

36 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

Because if we hire an experienced manager who knows what he’s doing his first question to the owners would be “Who is this Spors twat and why is he telling me who I should sign?”.

[The Kraken]

24 minutes ago, Badger said:

Possibly how we ended up with Still who happened to be conveniently available. 

I don’t wish to go all MLG but Still wasn’t available, was he? He said he wanted to come to the UK for his wife but as I recall he was under contract and we had to do a deal with Lens.

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I don’t wish to go all MLG but Still wasn’t available, was he? He said he wanted to come to the UK for his wife but as I recall he was under contract and we had to do a deal with Lens.

Don't apologise, embrace your inner MLG

[The Kraken]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Don't apologise, embrace your inner MLG

No thanks.

[Miltonaggro]

57 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

If that’s really the case, Spors and the rest of clownforce will be surprised at the backlash heading their way. Most fans seem right at the end of their tether with Sport Republic and wont stand for yet another work experience recruit. What the fuck is wrong with these mugs!

[Badger]

12 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I don’t wish to go all MLG but Still wasn’t available, was he? He said he wanted to come to the UK for his wife but as I recall he was under contract and we had to do a deal with Lens.

I thought he’d already let it be known he was returning to the UK and that had been accepted by his club. You may well be right. 

If we actually had to negotiate with his club, and pay compensation then the decision  becomes even more ridiculous. 

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

I thought he’d already let it be known he was returning to the UK and that had been accepted by his club. You may well be right. 

If we actually had to negotiate with his club, and pay compensation then the decision  becomes even more ridiculous. 

He resigned from his role at Lens as far as I remember. Fairly sure there was no dealing with Lens, that was purely between Still and them.

[The Kraken]

Just now, Badger said:

I thought he’d already let it be known he was returning to the UK and that had been accepted by his club. You may well be right. 

If we actually had to negotiate with his club, and pay compensation then the decision  becomes even more ridiculous. 

Just looked it up, you may be right actually. Reports say he “resigned” from Lens at the end of the season to be with his partner in the UK and was appointed by us a week or so later. Whether we actually were in conversations and gave payment to facilitate that, I don’t know.

[Mboto Gorge]

10 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

If that’s really the case, Spors and the rest of clownforce will be surprised at the backlash heading their way. Most fans seem right at the end of their tether with Sport Republic and wont stand for yet another work experience recruit. What the fuck is wrong with these mugs!

Totally agree however we already have had a few very easily pleased fans clearly lacking in the braincell department who now want Eckert appointed based on these last 2 wins, that’s how narrow minded and fickle some people are. I’ve seen a fair bit on social media saying give him the job. Spors will need no encouragement to appoint him, if he feels there’s a wave of support behind Eckert.
 

Blows my mind that someone can come in, face 2 pretty awful sides, change nothing regarding the shape or formation, scrape 2 unconvincing wins simply due to us having better players , and suddenly he’s the best man for the job according to some people, even over and above managers who’ve overseen hundreds of games at the top level. Laughable stuff

Edited 2 hours ago by Mboto Gorge

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

Thank God you've got these sort of contacts - I assume it must be Spors himself to know this?

Bullshit.

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Blows my mind that someone can come in, face 2 pretty awful sides, change nothing regarding the shape or formation, scrape 2 unconvincing wins simply due to us having better players , and suddenly he’s the best man for the job according to some people, even over and above managers who’ve overseen hundreds of games at the top level. Laughable stuff

100% this. We have way too many compliant, fan on the board type, group of supporters.

The talk about mass protesting if they appoint GON is hilarious, along with melts who are calling TE a genius and such like, for bringing 2 wins. 

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

100% this. We have way too many compliant, fan on the board type, group of supporters.

The talk about mass protesting if they appoint GON is hilarious, along with melts who are calling TE a genius and such like, for bringing 2 wins. 

Who's calling him a genius?

[Dirkdiggler]

12 hours ago, SoberSaint said:

Would be hard to find a more arrogant candidate than Russell Martin but Brendan Rodgers would hit the spot!

 

 

To be fair to Rodger’s he back up the arrogance more than Martin 

[Butthole_Surfer]

1 hour ago, Saint Neil said:

I hope Brendan brings in a competent assistant to sort out our defence…

[Wade Garrett]

6 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Totally agree however we already have had a few very easily pleased fans clearly lacking in the braincell department who now want Eckert appointed based on these last 2 wins, that’s how narrow minded and fickle some people are. I’ve seen a fair bit on social media saying give him the job. Spors will need no encouragement to appoint him, if he feels there’s a wave of support behind Eckert.
 

Blows my mind that someone can come in, face 2 pretty awful sides, change nothing regarding the shape or formation, scrape 2 unconvincing wins simply due to us having better players , and suddenly he’s the best man for the job according to some people, even over and above managers who’ve overseen hundreds of games at the top level. Laughable stuff

Spot on.  It’s beyond belief.  Even the local journalists who say that the win has bought the club more time.  Ridiculous.  Lose against Charlton and they’ll be writing what a mistake it was not to get a new manager in during the international break.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Does anybody actually want Eckert, because I haven’t seen anyone or met anyone suggesting him. I’ve seen people saying they’ll think it’ll be him, but not seen anyone seriously suggesting him. All I've read is people claiming there are nods that want him. 

[The Kraken]

8 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Totally agree however we already have had a few very easily pleased fans clearly lacking in the braincell department who now want Eckert appointed based on these last 2 wins, that’s how narrow minded and fickle some people are. I’ve seen a fair bit on social media saying give him the job. Spors will need no encouragement to appoint him, if he feels there’s a wave of support behind Eckert.
 

Blows my mind that someone can come in, face 2 pretty awful sides, change nothing regarding the shape or formation, scrape 2 unconvincing wins simply due to us having better players , and suddenly he’s the best man for the job according to some people, even over and above managers who’ve overseen hundreds of games at the top level. Laughable stuff

Yet here with are with SR and it’s a genuine concern that it’s what they really want to do.

Absolutely barking mad if we go for him, but I reckon it’s coming.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Does anybody actually want Eckert, because I haven’t seen anyone or met anyone suggesting him. I’ve seen people saying they’ll think it’ll be him, but not seen anyone seriously suggesting him. All I've read is people claiming there are nods that want him. 

There is at least 6 on the vote on this thread, pointless as it is

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

1 hour ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

I can well believe this. It was no coincidence Spors came on to the pitch to congratulate the players after Tonda's exciting wins!!

The crowd made it perfectly clear that Gary O'Neill is a non-starter and I can't believe SR would be so insensitive as to ignore the fans. But the fans didn't make it clear that Tonda isn't ready and sadly I can SR repeating the mistake they made with Selles and see him given the job to the end of the season.

[stknowle]

4 hours ago, DrSuess1979 said:

Brendon Roger’s

 

 

Why do some people struggle so badly with the possessive apostrophe? (Winky smiler emoji)

[Roger]

14 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Totally agree however we already have had a few very easily pleased fans clearly lacking in the braincell department who now want Eckert appointed based on these last 2 wins, that’s how narrow minded and fickle some people are. I’ve seen a fair bit on social media saying give him the job. Spors will need no encouragement to appoint him, if he feels there’s a wave of support behind Eckert.
 

Blows my mind that someone can come in, face 2 pretty awful sides, change nothing regarding the shape or formation, scrape 2 unconvincing wins simply due to us having better players , and suddenly he’s the best man for the job according to some people, even over and above managers who’ve overseen hundreds of games at the top level. Laughable stuff

Hardly seen anyone say this nearly everyone has said would be a fatal mistake. 

[saints-til-i-die]

The Sporting Director has to be the one to choose the manager otherwise what’s the point in that role? I’m not saying I’d agree with the appointment but surely that has to be the way a functioning football club runs.

[macca155]

36 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Most fans seem right at the end of their tether with Sport Republic and wont stand for yet another work experience recruit.

Totally this, Jones, Selles, and Still were spectacularly bad appointments. Add to that Martin's frailities that led to his undoing, and keeping Ralph on too long. It is no surprise that Saints fans are in no mood for a weak appointment, or God forbid another gamble.

The club obviously read this board and I'd urge them to listen for once. We'll never agree on who to appoint, nor formation, team selection, or even the kit. ..... but you'll find pretty strong agreement on who would be an unwise appointment.

The response to O'Neil and Martin's names being thrown in the mix are classic examples.

Equally there seems to be a fair bit of agreement on Eckert, 'maybe but not yet'.

Mind you having said all that, I'm struggling to think of someone who could impact on our broken squad at the moment. Spors certainly has his work cut out.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by macca155

[DrSuess1979]

14 minutes ago, stknowle said:

Why do some people struggle so badly with the possessive apostrophe? (Winky smiler emoji)

Not guilty 

Apple changed it for me 

😉

[saint michael]

At the fans forum it was mentioned that it was Spors decision to renew stephens’ contract. The CEO said it’s important to back his decision as he needs to take accountability for these decisions. If true then it must mean this is Spors decision on the mgr and the rest to ratify it. 

[stknowle]

18 minutes ago, DrSuess1979 said:

Not guilty 

Apple changed it for me 

😉

Understood, my phone is always ‘correcting’ me, the CUNT. 

[SaintLondon]

There isn't any substance in the Rogers rumours, right? Just general gossip? 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

17 minutes ago, saint michael said:

At the fans forum it was mentioned that it was Spors decision to renew stephens’ contract. The CEO said it’s important to back his decision as he needs to take accountability for these decisions. If true then it must mean this is Spors decision on the mgr and the rest to ratify it. 

Unless the board are losing faith in Spors, in which case they may decide to take more control 

[Wade Garrett]

1 minute ago, SaintLondon said:

There isn't any substance in the Rogers rumours, right? Just general gossip? 

Pilchards was up a tree and saw him going into Staplewood.

[SaintBobby]

I’m not confident that SR will make a good decision.

I’m not even confident they’ll make a remotely sane decision.

[StrangelyBrown]

4 minutes ago, SaintBobby said:

I’m not confident that SR will make a good decision.

I’m not even confident they’ll make a remotely sane decision.

I'm not confident they'll make a decision - I think they'll continue with Eckert on an interim basis for the foreseeable 

[Danwulfe]

I'd be over the move with Brendan coming in. Don't think he'd take shit from the players.

[Winnersaint]

4 minutes ago, Danwulfe said:

I'd be over the move with Brendan coming in. Don't think he'd take shit from the players.

If Brenda was made of chocolate he'd be ten times more likely to eat himself than Russell Martin

[Mboto Gorge]

1 hour ago, Roger said:

Hardly seen anyone say this nearly everyone has said would be a fatal mistake. 

There’s already a few on this new manager poll on this very site- 6 votes for Eckert , have a look. Several comments on X and various Facebook groups too. I know that doesn’t mean a lot in the scheme of things but they are there. 

Edited 57 minutes ago by Mboto Gorge

[Willo of Whiteley]

I doubt Brendan Rodgers is a realistic target for us. I’m sure he’s aiming higher than us.

[ErwinK1961]

2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

You could have given Still and Jones a season and we’d have still been shite because they are shite.  Hardly the basis for an argument.

Give a good manager that time and he’ll use it well.

And if we have to wait until after the international break to get a ‘good’ manager then so be it. I don’t get the fuss about getting someone in by Tuesday, as if it’s going to make or break our season.

[saintant]

3 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I don’t know who else has been or is being interviewed. The only other piece of knowledge I have at this point is that Spors personal preference is to appoint Tonda , but that’s not the preference of others involved in making the decision. If I get any more snippets I’ll let everyone know, hoping to hear more this week. 

If true this is a worry - either Spors gets his way and we end up with Eckert or Rasmus gets his way and we end up with one of his weird and wonderful selections based on some algebraic formula and spreadsheet.

[pingpong]

Odds check:

Rodgers, Carrick and corberan shortening.

Eckhert, Martin and O'Neil lengthening.

[Saint_lambden]

Rodgers still has a house on outskirts of Reading. 

[Dr Who?]

1 hour ago, DrSuess1979 said:

Not guilty 

Apple changed it for me 

😉

Stupid Americans! Did not change that though! 🤔 

[Mr X]

I think the danger is they may decide to stick with Tonda for the rest of this season as they will see anything above the relegation zone as positive and if it works out it's a low cost option and we know how they love a low cost option! 

[SW11_Saint]

What do people think of Corberan? 

Generally well regarded, but didn’t do so well at WBA, and not pulling up any trees at Valencia. 

Maybe he’ll bring Bielsa in as his #2 next season? 😂