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    Not really that sure what he done in the past to deserve the job in the first place (Huddersfield and their recruitment has actually improved since he has left), but he's another senior figure (appointed by Les) at the club who just simply up to the task and has played a massive part in our downfall. A prime example of replacing quality (Mitchell) with absolute sh!te, as we have seen throughout the club.

    His apparent lack of ability to seal major transfer deals (thinking back to recent January transfer windows) and inability to attract / spot a decent manager (no doubt had a big say in the appointments of Puel and MP) to me should be a sackable offence.

    Hopefully when we go down, Mr Gao will have a big restructure and Ross (as well as Les and Ralph) will be let go as part of that. Personally, I'd like to see 'Mr Black box', Paul Mitchel (I'm not saying he didn't / doesn't make bad decisions as well, but he's a dam lot better than Ross) come back, but in Les' role and let him pick the team under him.

    Unfortunately it won't happen and when Les does eventually step down, Ross will, unjustifiably, step into his shoes.... shame he didn't take the rangers job when offered it.

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    Let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Let it go.
    Exactly the attitude that lets these cowboys run us into the ground... well done.

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    You've got absolutely no idea who's to blame. Eric Black was the problem before, and Puel, and then Pellegrino, and now Gao/Reed/Kruger the first name that comes to mind. No one has any idea about the inner workings of the club and want to just keep going for peoples heads with nothing really to substantiate it.

    Football goes in cycles - sometimes your team are good and others not. Stop bleating.

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    Recruitment, in my opinion, is the number one issue why we're in this mess. For that reason, he simply has to go.

    I don't really trust Les to replace him with anyone better though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKD View Post
    Not really that sure what he done in the past to deserve the job in the first place (Huddersfield and their recruitment has actually improved since he has left), but he's another senior figure (appointed by Les) at the club who just simply up to the task and has played a massive part in our downfall. A prime example of replacing quality (Mitchell) with absolute sh!te, as we have seen throughout the club.

    .... shame he didn't take the rangers job when offered it.
    Must admit I have also wondered what made him a suitable candidate as we were linked with him for about 12 months before he joined. Looking back at Huddersfield's signings I couldn't see anything that stood out at the time to suggest a track record.

    It's like many Les recruits, and it sometimes seems a case of the Emperors Clothes, Les "sees" something and all others go along with it.

    But it has to be asked, who had heard of Paul Mitchell prior to his arrival, and what track record did he have? Credit to Les (or Cortese) perhaps for that selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffo View Post
    You've got absolutely no idea who's to blame. Eric Black was the problem before, and Puel, and then Pellegrino, and now Gao/Reed/Kruger the first name that comes to mind. No one has any idea about the inner workings of the club and want to just keep going for peoples heads with nothing really to substantiate it.

    Football goes in cycles - sometimes your team are good and others not. Stop bleating.
    Nothing to substantiate it? Have you not seen our dramatic down fall over the past 18 months.

    Itís a combination of poor management on and off the pitch. Agree that football goes in cycles, but as far as Iím concerned this (relegation) was something completely avoidable.

    You canít argue that weíve generally been poor in the transfer window since Mitchel left. If you donít think thereís an issue with the running of the club and that itís just Ďfootball cyclesí then more fool you, head in sand comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKD View Post
    Nothing to substantiate it? Have you not seen our dramatic down fall over the past 18 months.

    It’s a combination of poor management on and off the pitch. Agree that football goes in cycles, but as far as I’m concerned this (relegation) was something completely avoidable.

    You can’t argue that we’ve generally been poor in the transfer window since Mitchel left. If you don’t think there’s an issue with the running of the club and that it’s just ‘football cycles’ then more fool you, head in sand comes to mind.
    Exactly, this isn't just something that has happened naturally, the fall has been spectacular, and heads should roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffo View Post
    You've got absolutely no idea who's to blame. Eric Black was the problem before, and Puel, and then Pellegrino, and now Gao/Reed/Kruger the first name that comes to mind. No one has any idea about the inner workings of the club and want to just keep going for peoples heads with nothing really to substantiate it.

    Football goes in cycles - sometimes your team are good and others not. Stop bleating.
    That is exactly the dumb attitude that has let these idiots in the board get away with ruining club. Those at the top are laughing at us. You keep telling urself it’s all a cycle mate. Most preventable relegation ever.

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    We have spent huge amounts of money on players who are average at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    That is exactly the dumb attitude that has let these idiots in the board get away with ruining club. Those at the top are laughing at us. You keep telling urself it’s all a cycle mate. Most preventable relegation ever.
    Certainly speaks volumes when we have 1 win in 18 games but are still in touching distance of staying up.

    Such a poor league this season.

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    From the media coverage I've seen Wee Ross seems pretty good at opening the door for Uncle Les and the club's new signings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    From the media coverage I've seen Wee Ross seems pretty good at opening the door for Uncle Les and the club's new signings.
    Will be interesting to see what happens if Les does head over to West Ham this summer.

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    Wilsonís title is now Director of Football operations, which I believe was Leslieís previous role before stepping up to vice-chairman. Simply put, heís not just in charge of scouting and identifying who to recruit for the senior team but will oversee a lot of other departments - performance analysis, football administration, etc. He will also have a role in contract negotiations, alongside Leslie.

    So he has to assume a decent portion of the blame for the various failures over the past 21 months or so.

    It always struck me as odd that he was on holiday in Portugal during that never-ending end-of-season review before we finally sacked Puel - which he surely would have had a massive involvement in.

    Of course he is entitled to a holiday, but the timing just seemed symptomatic of the malaise that has gripped the club, more generally. The absolute priority should have surely been to get the manager situation resolved ASAP and set out the agenda for the summer, especially with a takeover rumbling on in the background and the instability this can lead to.


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    I hope he watches Mitrovic first half performance for Fulham tonight....everything 19m Carillo isnt.

    If we go down should get him fro. Newcastle.
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    Re the OP request to get Paul Mitchell back. No chance that will happen, he's just joined Red Bull Leipzig.

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    Tom Hanks in BIG

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    From the media coverage I've seen Wee Ross seems pretty good at opening the door for Uncle Les and the club's new signings.
    Yes, that's about the level of capability. Struck me as a very odd appointment at the time, looking like an extra from Trainspotting unable to get a shirt collar to fit him with a non-track record or experience in the critical role he secured at a flying Prem side - completely uninspired and non-inspirational, so very Lesley. He has to go along with his mentor and the bell-end Krueger - fans at the moment are apathetic, but post relegation expect pitchforks if this trio of cretins are still in place come September.

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    Ross mentioned as potential candidate for Rangers DoF vacancy.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...place-20060745

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    Wasn't he linked with them a while back?

    If we're all honest, I wouldn't shed a tear if he went. To say his results have been mixed is an understatement.

    Could be an opening for Mithchell to link back up with Ralph. Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Wasn't he linked with them a while back?

    If we're all honest, I wouldn't shed a tear if he went. To say his results have been mixed is an understatement.

    Could be an opening for Mithchell to link back up with Ralph. Who knows.
    I believe he turned it down, but did speak to them.

    Found the link: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...-decision/amp/
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    Former Tottenham talent spotter Paul Mitchell 'rejects up to four Premier League clubs' to sign new contract as Red Bull's global soccer technical director following successful spell with RB Leipzig

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Former Tottenham talent spotter Paul Mitchell 'rejects up to four Premier League clubs' to sign new contract as Red Bull's global soccer technical director following successful spell with RB Leipzig
    Red Bull have proved very good owners at both Leipzig and Salzburg. I wonder when they'll start looking for an English club? Perhaps Mitchell could point them in our direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    Red Bull have proved very good owners at both Leipzig and Salzburg. I wonder when they'll start looking for an English club? Perhaps Mitchell could point them in our direction.
    I think they would have to buy a lower league team and try and delvelop them into a PL side - i can't see any PL side (or Championship) allowing RB to be added to their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBS1980 View Post
    I think they would have to buy a lower league team and try and delvelop them into a PL side - i can't see any PL side (or Championship) allowing RB to be added to their name.
    I donít think EPL or FL rules allow a commercial name to be added to an existing name.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW5 SAINT View Post
    I don’t think EPL or FL rules allow a commercial name to be added to an existing name.....?
    Neither do the German rules, didn't really stop Red Bull though. Leipzig aren't actually called "Red Bull Leipzig" but rather "RasenBallSport Leipzig" ("Lawn Ball Sports Leipzig") which they conveniently shorten to "RB Leipzig".

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    Wilson in Rangers talks as Gerrard makes personal plea.

    Ross Wilson in Rangers director of football talks as Steven Gerrard makes personal plea to Southampton talent spotter

    The Ibrox boss has already made contact with the Falkirk-born Scot to replace axed Mark Allen at Ibrox.

    And boss Steven Gerrard has already made a personal plea to the Falkirk-born Scot to replace axed Mark Allen at Ibrox.

    The 36-year-old, the highly-rated director of football operations at the EPL side, rejected the job two and half years ago to stay at St Mary’s.

    However he is now considering a fresh approach made by Rangers managing director Stewart Robertson and is deep in talks over the role.

    Wilson was offered a blank canvas the last time out after the job was first created in a major restructuring, but the former Bairns, Huddersfield and Watford recruitment ace couldn't be convinced to leave one of the most reputable operations in the English top flight.

    This time however, he’s understood to be taking the approach seriously, and has been seeking guarantees about the club’s current financial health as he makes up his mind over a move back home after a decade down south.

    And it's believed a lengthy conversation with Gerrard, as well as other trusted contacts inside the Hummel Training Centre operation, has helped him edge towards accepting the post with the Premiership side.

    Talks are expected to continue over the weekend.
    Source: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...tball-20461074

    Will be a big vacancy for us to fill if he accepts it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Wilson in Rangers talks as Gerrard makes personal plea.



    Source: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...tball-20461074

    Will be a big vacancy for us to fill if he accepts it.
    We can maybe get somebody competent in. Hooray

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    We can maybe get somebody competent in. Hooray
    Indeed, feels like a George Burley moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katalinic View Post
    Indeed, feels like a George Burley moment.
    Didn't we get worse after Burley left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Didn't we get worse after Burley left?
    We got money for an incompetent drunk who was about to be sacked. I don't know if Ross Wilson drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katalinic View Post
    We got money for an incompetent drunk who was about to be sacked. I don't know if Ross Wilson drinks.
    He's a sweaty, don't they all drink?

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    Good. Had this summer to prove himself as the main man after a few poor windows as the "second in charge". Failed to deliver again, based on what's happened so far, so it feels like he's definitely an area we could improve on.

    Although, he does seem to get linked to Rangers on a yearly basis.

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    If they do prise him away from us I hope we make them break the bank to be adequately compensated.


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    if he is anything to do with recruitment of players, he should be sacked!

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    Canít help but be positive about this news.

    The guy has donít FAKALL of note here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Can’t help but be positive about this news.

    The guy has don’t FAKALL of note here
    Yes, sounds like good news.

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    Will only be good news if we get a decent replacement in.
    Hopefully Ralph is consulted over this.

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    He must have impressed someone once, otherwise why would Rangers be after him...........?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW5 SAINT View Post
    He must have impressed someone once, otherwise why would Rangers be after him...........?
    Do you mean apart from Les Reed ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW5 SAINT View Post
    He must have impressed someone once, otherwise why would Rangers be after him...........?
    I suspect its more likely that Rangers are a more attractive club for him. They're pushing to catch celtic, he'll have a transfer budget to work with, and given the inferior league, there's a better chance that players will be a success. To be fair to the bloke, he had to pull rabbits out of the hat for us and there's only so many times you can do that.

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    Poor transfers, wages, managers sacked, sky money, league finish money, season tickets, club reputation, next generation of fans.

    Ross and Les have cost us the best part £250m

    Ross (Harry) should have been sacked when Les (Lloyd) was

    2 useless c u next tuesday's


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    Sure Gao will be an expert at selecting a replacement...

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-football.html

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    Sounds promising.

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    He should of been sacked ! useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Sure Gao will be an expert at selecting a replacement...
    The worrying aspect of this ...

    Knowing how Saints have worked in recent seasons whats the betting that the club announce the ex-Everton scout brought in over the summer can take the role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Sure Gao will be an expert at selecting a replacement...
    Apparently, they need his blessing to get it done: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-look-20503988

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Apparently, they need his blessing to get it done: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-look-20503988
    Makes sense as Wilson is the most senior member of Football Staff we have, hence why someone 'non Football' will end up choosing his Successor.

    Probably not ideal ahead of January, but we have no cash to spend anyway seeing as we failed to sell any of the flops this summer.

    For a team like Saints, getting his replacement right will be crucial and possibly the difference between relegation in the next 3 seasons and staying in the PL.

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    Good riddance.

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