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Shame to see him go, still think he could do a job for us this season, can't blame him for wanting first team football in a higher league.

 

He never gave anything less than 100% for us so I wish him well.

 

He clearly loves the club shame it hasn't worked out for him, I thought after last season he would kick on be an important part of our midfield. Pardew obviously rates James, Wotton, Hammond and Schneiderlin ahead of him so he won't get much of a look in.

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Got to prove himself there first. If he does, then fair play he signs for them and we get some money in for 'the window'. If he doesn't but plays a fair few games for them, he may come back a better player and ready to step up for us. If however, he fails up there I can't see him signing for them nor playing for us and he will be moved on downwards.

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This is what it's like to be a professional footballer. For us supporters there is only one club in the world, but for a player it is about who is playing the wages and who fancies your way of playing the game. I sincerely hope that Gillett is successfull and enjoy his football in Doncaster. He's a good chap who had done a lot for us in very difficult circumstances. In the end he wasn't part of the manager's plans any more.

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Got to prove himself there first. If he does, then fair play he signs for them and we get some money in for 'the window'. If he doesn't but plays a fair few games for them, he may come back a better player and ready to step up for us. If however, he fails up there I can't see him signing for them nor playing for us and he will be moved on downwards.

 

That just about sums up the possible outcomes. Like he said ..

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He won't fail, why would he? He'll play for England, mark my words. This is a monumental b*ll*cks up by Below Par-dew

 

This is Blue Square standard.

 

Go and look up some of Scooby's posts. He might have been obvious too but he knew how to stir it a bit better.

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The guy is 24, i don't think he will be playing for England. At least not at football, professional football, anything that involves a ball basically.

 

Goodluck to the guy, hope he does well. Because if he does we will get more money.

 

But he may be a mean tiddlywinks player?

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This is Blue Square standard.

 

Go and look up some of Scooby's posts. He might have been obvious too but he knew how to stir it a bit better.

 

Very true. I think the site sorely misses out-and-out trolling of Scooby's high quality. Poor old Charlie will never fill that gap I'm afraid.

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he'll have to cut his midweek drinking habbits if hes ever to succeed! i find it amazing how the lads who are out on the lash the most are those who pardew is getting rid of, and fair play to him i say! about time someone made the point that the club is more important than a nightclub! (and this is going back to the pele incident before the play off semi final!)

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Wotton sucks

 

Indeed - I watched him closely at Blackpool last season (the golf tournament style stand meant we were very close to the pitch), and to me, his legs had gone, his first touch was pretty poor, and when he did get the ball, he hadn't a clue what to do with it other than pass sideways or back to Kelvin - he certainly couldn't do anything remotely creative and because his legs have gone, couldn't do the closing down a David Batty style player has to offer due to his absence of creativity.

 

Contrast to Gillett, who to me was one of the best things about the whole Dutch experiment, he can do the closing down at least as well as Wotton, plus he can actually pick out a decent pass or two.

 

Of course, some people will go on about his (lack of) height, but it never hampered Dennis Wise, and Gillett is actually an inch taller if you believe Wikipedia - 5' 7" vs 5' 6". Guess his face doesn't fit with Pardew, who otherwise I rate very highly so far.

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Gillett had some potential if a little lightweight.

 

I suspect Pards has a problem with his atitude or robustness. Either way, I have to confess I'd rather have any of the new buy midfielders than Gillett - all are more robust, experienced and ... well ... fundamentally men that are needed to get us up.

 

Another Lowe legacy young player bites the dust?

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Gillett is in a rut and clearly needs to do something to kick-start his stagnated career.

 

If he feels that means Doncaster Rovers, good luck to him.

 

I just always find it a pity that players cannot buckle down and convince a manager of their worth.

 

Or he isnt good enough? Dont see a CCC or Premier League club making him a big offer!

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When the club made a big thing last season of Gillett signing his new contract a mate said to me “If you’re going to rely on Simon Gillett being your star player you’re going to get relegated”

Well, he was one of our better players last season, and we did get relegated.

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Indeed - I watched him closely at Blackpool last season (the golf tournament style stand meant we were very close to the pitch), and to me, his legs had gone, his first touch was pretty poor, and when he did get the ball, he hadn't a clue what to do with it other than pass sideways or back to Kelvin - he certainly couldn't do anything remotely creative and because his legs have gone, couldn't do the closing down a David Batty style player has to offer due to his absence of creativity.

 

Contrast to Gillett, who to me was one of the best things about the whole Dutch experiment, he can do the closing down at least as well as Wotton, plus he can actually pick out a decent pass or two.

 

Of course, some people will go on about his (lack of) height, but it never hampered Dennis Wise, and Gillett is actually an inch taller if you believe Wikipedia - 5' 7" vs 5' 6". Guess his face doesn't fit with Pardew, who otherwise I rate very highly so far.

 

I'd agree with all of that. Why Pardew has played Gillett in the most forward of the midfield during pre season and as a sub is beyond me.

 

One thing that sticks in my mind is a home game this season (I think Millwall) when shortly after Gillet was brought on he miscontrolled and then lost posession in a very dangerous area and we were in serious trouble. I think they went on to score from a resulting corner.

 

This sort of lapse in concentration happened from time to time last year as well (sometimes he got away with it, sometimes he recovered) but that consistency or first touch does let him down and maybe Pardew has spotted that. He must have spotted it pretty quickly though as he seemed to be out of favour even before pre season games kicked off.

 

I have to say it is a little surprising considering the quality of Wottons first touch. The difference between the two perhaps is that Gillett tries to play whilst Wotton will hoof it if there is even the slightest hint of an oponent in the vasinity. Safety first is a good option but it can very frustrating to fans when we can see the player has hours to get the ball down and play.

 

Whatever the reason for not liking Gillett, its a long season and injuries and suspensions will be a factor. If Gillet leaves do we have enough cover down the middle? Would Gobern perhaps be able to do this role when he returns from his loan spell? He looks ideal to me as a Carlton Palmer type to break up play.

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Would Gobern perhaps be able to do this role when he returns from his loan spell? He looks ideal to me as a Carlton Palmer type to break up play.

 

I think Gobern is a great option if we get hit by injuries

 

 

....just a pity that according to the OS he is only 5'11' and 10 stone 11lb, oh I can't prove that as they've just removed him from the team profiles..... perhaps Saints have got someone in on job experience to do an update

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Gillett is in a rut and clearly needs to do something to kick-start his stagnated career.

 

If he feels that means Doncaster Rovers, good luck to him.

 

I just always find it a pity that players cannot buckle down and convince a manager of their worth.

 

Christ there are times when you have to say my face doesn't fit here. He was very decent for us last year and would be again if given half the chances useless Wotton has been given! Yes, Yes I know, Wotton has had at least one good game for us but does that make a summer? I like Gillet pitty he's off but that's life. He was probably a victime of the fact that we had a lot of short players and that just had to change.

We probably lost many games before they even started last year - in the tunnel, with so many titchies stood beside all the giants you come across in football these days the psychological disadvantage would be significant.....

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I don't buy this "Gillett was decent for us last season" cr@p! He had two decent spells of 4 or 5 games but that was it. He started 23 league games for us last season (exactly half) of which at least 10 he was mediocre at best. I know he missed a fair few through injury but also missed several because he wasn't deemed to be good enough to get into the side (and last season that is going some). Less than a dozen reasonable to decent appearances during a 46 game season, does not warrant the hero worship Gillett seems to be getting from some on here. The guy has had more than enough chances to stake a claim and never taken them.

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Christ there are times when you have to say my face doesn't fit here. He was very decent for us last year and would be again if given half the chances useless Wotton has been given! Yes, Yes I know, Wotton has had at least one good game for us but does that make a summer? I like Gillet pitty he's off but that's life. He was probably a victime of the fact that we had a lot of short players and that just had to change.

We probably lost many games before they even started last year - in the tunnel, with so many titchies stood beside all the giants you come across in football these days the psychological disadvantage would be significant.....

wotton has been pretty good for us recently.....

 

also, pards is putting real experience in the team to complement a couple of young'uns..

 

wotton knows what it is to win, he captained a team to win this very division...he captained a team to two league championships in 3 years...

 

I know his best days are behind him but he does have something to offer this season...his experience in and around the team will be and is vital...

 

and I guess pardew agrees..

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i find it amazing how the lads who are out on the lash the most are those who pardew is getting rid of, and fair play to him i say!

I don't understand why you think it amazing. If this is true then I find it amazing that no-one has done this before. I have no idea whether this culture amongst the younger lads (I know SG is not a kid) is prevalent or not, but if someone at SFC allowed such a culture to develop then it is absolutely unforgiveable. If true I have my own idea when it would have started of course.

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I don't buy this "Gillett was decent for us last season" cr@p! He had two decent spells of 4 or 5 games but that was it. He started 23 league games for us last season (exactly half) of which at least 10 he was mediocre at best. I know he missed a fair few through injury but also missed several because he wasn't deemed to be good enough to get into the side (and last season that is going some). Less than a dozen reasonable to decent appearances during a 46 game season, does not warrant the hero worship Gillett seems to be getting from some on here. The guy has had more than enough chances to stake a claim and never taken them.

 

He seems to be taking his chance at a club in the division above us...

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Got to prove himself there first. If he does, then fair play he signs for them and we get some money in for 'the window'. If he doesn't but plays a fair few games for them, he may come back a better player and ready to step up for us. If however, he fails up there I can't see him signing for them nor playing for us and he will be moved on downwards.

 

It all depends what Pardew has in his plans in the January window, or if our new found midfield does not suffer with problems or injuries up to that point. It did not make sense to give Doncaster an extension or sell him on until we have that position covered. For me getting this wrong would be worthy of the sack for Pardew, I cannot see the point in letting someone who has put in the performances for Doncaster, in a position we are light in make any sense. This is stupidity with a capital S, at least hold on to him until we have found a replacement. You only have to look at the reviews from Doncaster fans to see he has been doing a very good job, against very good teams a level higher than ourselves. Took 2 or 3 games to get his fitness fully up to speed but see for yourselves the Donny views

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=184&fid=96&sty=2&act=1&mid=2123814642

If we don't get into the play off's this season it would be a travesty because we had not bothered to hang onto Gillett to cover up to the New Year or find we have someone that can make a difference. I am fully aware he has not impressed when given a chance, but he has never been tried in the one position we have seen him do a job for us and one he is doing well for Doncaster.

 

I just cannot see the logic in letting a player who is putting in these performances go until you have cover, at the cost of what, peanuts! If I was Cortese and saw us miss out on the chance of the play offs because of problems in our fragile midfield, this would be a very expensive mistake that could require squaring.

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