Ohio Saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Well, NA just explained his reasoning....Was he wrong? Yes, I'm asking the whiners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Or perhaps we had been down 5-0 at half time. When that 2nd half line-up so altered the game in our favour ? Seems unlikely. WTF, no-one is interested in a balanced discussion tonight, so I'll give up. Well done Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Once again, Adkins got his tactics spot on. That's four games since Christmas where he's tweaked our starting lineup and shape in order to counter specific threats (Fulham, Stoke, Arsenal, Chelsea) and four times we've come away with arguably unexpected results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Surely anything is risky away to the Champions League holders? No matter who plays where or how? He hasn't got a scooby, he must love embarrassing himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Nigel Adkins is f***ing awesome. You critical bastards, am I supposed to respect you? What a great day to be a Saints supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Amazing. Proud to be a saint tonight, huge point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 No sound on this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8PARs0AniY Check out how Lambert gets himself a yard of space... Big shove lol! Brilliant! Thanks for that. Ba's goal looks like a deflection, jammy barstewards. What a surprise, I went to sleep at half time, do I have to do that in every game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I said 1-1, but to come back rom 2-0 down at a team with all big players. cfc had 30 odd shots and Saints must have battled at the back to keep the score line down. Super Saints just like the old days, well done Saints!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Red Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Had a quick look through the match day thread. Some ridiculous comment in there, from the same people who have been completely wrong at half time in the past before... writing us off too soon. You'd think they'd learn, alas no. Regardless, cracking result. Should have done better clearing the goals really and would agree that Davis and Guly had poor games. Really impressed with everyone else. Special mention to Clyne and Shaw who not only kept Mata, Oscar and Hazard at bay (which is amazing in itself) but also setup the goals. Two England players in the making there. Rickie obviously a legend. Puncheon has made me realise that people can change, fair play to him, hope we can keep him. I'm inclined to think we would have lost had Rickie and Gaston been on from the start. Just think we changed our game plan with the subs (RL in particular) which confused Chelsea and let us back in it. Thankful that the Chelsea Torres turned up tonight too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 No sound on this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8PARs0AniY Check out how Lambert gets himself a yard of space... Big shove lol! Clynes cross is luverly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I am pleased for NA and the team that their game plan worked out. But come on, it was very, very risky. If we'd got thumped, it would have had a bad effect on our confidence going forwards. What like when they beat us 5-1 at home 10 days ago ? Thats had a real bad effect on the two games we have played since hasn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Great game play by NA, give the fringe players game time and if it dosen't work put on the cavalry, shows a real belief by NA in his tactics and not running scared - everyone's a winner tonight, except Alpine of course:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 How about he is the first Luke Shaw? Deserves everything he gets. He deserves to be in his own accolade doesn't need to be in someone else's. I doubt he would mind being compared to the best left midfielder in the world right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 When that 2nd half line-up so altered the game in our favour ? Seems unlikely. WTF, no-one is interested in a balanced discussion tonight, so I'll give up. Well done Saints to get balance you need it from both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Once again, Adkins got his tactics spot on. That's four games since Christmas where he's tweaked our starting lineup and shape in order to counter specific threats (Fulham, Stoke, Arsenal, Chelsea) and four times we've come away with arguably unexpected results. this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Well done the mighty Saints..... Very good team effort... I notice still one or two idiots WUM or just nutters.....not a clue with some of their pathetic comments:p If you didn't enjoy what took place tonight.......FLUUUUCK OFF you idiots... Saints night and for us Saints supporters to enjoy:) COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 WTF, no-one is interested in a balanced discussion tonight, so I'll give up. Most people are interested in a balanced discussion, but you don't understand what it means. Makes I laugh when you come out with this twaddle evry time you're shown to be a class 1 clown (yes I do mean clown, most clowns are miserable sods off stage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I am pleased for NA and the team that their game plan worked out. But come on, it was very, very risky. If we'd got thumped, it would have had a bad effect on our confidence going forwards. Risky? Yes. Did it work? Yes. Give credit where credit is due. That's an absolute fantastic result. Can't believe anybody is questioning Adkins tactics to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Great game play by NA, give the fringe players game time and if it dosen't work put on the cavalry, shows a real belief by NA in his tactics and not running scared - everyone's a winner tonight, except Alpine of course:p Well it is a game of two halves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Bloody hell just looked at Villa's GD - -25!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Stunning result - result of the season even though it wasn't a win. Agree with what's been said - "feels like a win" " a free point" etc etc. I'm normally glass half full but have treaded with caution this season - and indeed I saw nothing from this game, so I'm astonished we drew. Triffic. Now for Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Boruc - not much to do really, deflected 1st goal and let down by defence for 2nd. Looked assured towards end. I think we held a higher line as result. full backs were both excellent cork and Spider-Man outstanding, Davis looks poor and Guly ended his run of decent form. jay rod ran around, Lambo changed the game giving a focus to our attack. Adkins - MOTM, gambled big time with the line-up ala Man City away and it came off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Bloody hell just looked at Villa's GD - -25!!!! Noticed that earlier myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Two shots on goal for us tonight, two goals scored. Clinical. Benitez is clueless - we had chances. Should score chances. They had 18 shots on goal, 3 were on target. Torres must go down as the biggest waste of money of all time. I'd rather have 50 Rickie Lamberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Stunning management ? We're 2-0 down, 35mins to go, and our 2 best players on paper are on the bench. FFS, even you would have made those subs. Yes.. I do love these comments about stunning management after the result... the truth is that we put out the wrong team in the first place. 1st half was similar to Liverpool game where we gave the opposition too much respect, with no outlet up front. The game could have been out of sight and then I doubt we would have had 'stunning management' comments. Its all so easy after the event. Lambert has to play from the start, he's not using a walking stick so I think 90 minutes is just about within his capability.. everything changed when he came on and he would have been unplayable from the 1st minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MbaleSaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 BBC website gives following stats: Chelsea's PL record when leading by two goals at half-time before tonight: W87 D1 L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 COYR had to listen on the radio as I was never going to be able to get to London and now about to watch it on Sky with a Stella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 BBC website gives following stats: Chelsea's PL record when leading by two goals at half-time before tonight: W87 D1 L1. Top stat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Davis was utter w4nk, just as a negative. Guly not really involved. Only downsides to tonight, Nigel was absolutely spot-on to take them off and bring on 2 attacking players in their places! All the hate directed at the lineup when it was announced must henceforth be withdrawn, having Rickie and Gaston to come on and make an impact worked superbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalneSaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Honestly thought we would get another battering tonight.....so I figured I would just avoid the score until full time.... GOD I LOVE IT WHEN I GET IT SO WRONG!!!!!! Bloody amazing result, and everyone connected with the team and especially those that gave the European champions a run for their money should be very very proud of this achievement...... So proud to be a Saints fan tonight.....more so than normal... Brilliant just bloody brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Another bonus point to add to the Arsenal home draw. Awesome Saints. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Sky Sports 2 feed for those wanting to watch the extyended highlights.... http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/sky-sports-2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Davis was utter w4nk, just as a negative. Guly not really involved. Only downsides to tonight, Nigel was absolutely spot-on to take them off and bring on 2 attacking players in their places! All the hate directed at the lineup when it was announced must henceforth be withdrawn, having Rickie and Gaston to come on and make an impact worked superbly. Guly was poor when he got the ball tonight, but he did a hell of a lot of work supporting Shaw defensively. That's why he was picked ahead of Ramirez - let's not forget, he was completely anonymous on Saturday at Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 WTF, no-one is interested in a balanced discussion tonight, so I'll give up. The evening just keeps getting better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Interestingly the Yahoo sport page made Jos MOTM...don't actually agree but he's not let anyone down since he came in for Jose...nor do I think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Interestingly the Yahoo sport page made Jos MOTM...don't actually agree but he's not let anyone down since he came in for Jose...nor do I think he will. I thought he was poor first half, but credit to him he turned it around second half and made some very important blocks/clearances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I am lovin being a Saints fan at the moment, can't quite believe we pulled it off (in previous times we woulda buckled under at the end), Adkins what seemed like mad tactics actually worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Davis was utter w4nk, just as a negative. Guly not really involved. Only downsides to tonight, Nigel was absolutely spot-on to take them off and bring on 2 attacking players in their places! All the hate directed at the lineup when it was announced must henceforth be withdrawn, having Rickie and Gaston to come on and make an impact worked superbly. I don't understand why Ricky can't make an 'impact ' all game. Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Punch on the radio when asked about his contract.... " Im happy here, thats all im gonna say" wahoooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 BBC website gives following stats: Chelsea's PL record when leading by two goals at half-time before tonight: W87 D1 L1.Wonder what the stats are for Saints leading by 2 goals at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 The point takes us 3 points clear of Villa, and since we've also worked hard at rescuing the GD, we're also better in that department. What a novelty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 When it works, Adkins is a genius. When it doesn't he's a moron. Tonight's tactics were more or less the same as against City - and Adkins got a lot of stick for it. Fickle bunch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 If only Yoshida had booted that out for a corner instead of trying to control it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 BBC website gives following stats: Chelsea's PL record when leading by two goals at half-time before tonight: W87 D1 L1. Which proves just how impressive that result was ! No one should moan ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Wonder what the stats are for Saints leading by 2 goals at half time. Another stat from BBC: "Southampton came back from two goals down in a Premier League away match for the fourth time (1W - 3D) and for the first time since 2-2 at Leicester City in Aug 2003." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 When people post about needing 'Premier League experience' on the pitch, you have to remember that Nige is very much learning as he goes along. He didn't have any such when the season started either, and despite the horrendous run of games to start with he set his stall out to play 'proper' football, and didn't feel the need to panic and change things because he saw enough positives in the performances against the 'big' clubs, despite the results. What we now have is a squad with half a season of the necessary experience, and playing with the confidence that they really can cut it against the prima donnas and World Cup megastars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 I don't understand why Ricky can't make an 'impact ' all game. Does anyone know? The main thing for me is that it unsettles the opposition defence a bit. They're expecting to have a really physical opponent to deal with, and it's probably easier to deal with that sort of presence from the start of the game - we see so often teams bringing on big physical strikers when they're chasing the game, and it's because when a defender is tired, it makes him more susceptible to losing aerial battles. If Lambert's been battling it out with Cahill, Ivanovic, Luiz or whoever Chelsea pick at the back for 65/70 minutes, he'll be tired himself (and the combination of his physique and age mean he probably wouldn't be at his peak later in the game), so perhaps the comeback we saw tonight doesn't happen. I fully expect a similar system with Lambert benched at Old Trafford in a couple of weeks, Rodriguez to run around a lot for the first hour or so and then Lambert to come on and change things in our favour again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 PICK THAT ONE OUT! Was refreshing desperately online at 2-0 but internet died. 2-2 at full time feels as good as a win! Now we are going to be fending off £30m bids for Clyne and Shaw now... How many teams must feel so stupid for not getting Clyne in at that matter, £2.5m to make him our first choice RB has to be one of those buys of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 The main thing for me is that it unsettles the opposition defence a bit. They're expecting to have a really physical opponent to deal with, and it's probably easier to deal with that sort of presence from the start of the game - we see so often teams bringing on big physical strikers when they're chasing the game, and it's because when a defender is tired, it makes him more susceptible to losing aerial battles. If Lambert's been battling it out with Cahill, Ivanovic, Luiz or whoever Chelsea pick at the back for 65/70 minutes, he'll be tired himself (and the combination of his physique and age mean he probably wouldn't be at his peak later in the game), so perhaps the comeback we saw tonight doesn't happen. I fully expect a similar system with Lambert benched at Old Trafford in a couple of weeks, Rodriguez to run around a lot for the first hour or so and then Lambert to come on and change things in our favour again. Thanks. All seems very plausible. Good explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 January, 2013 Share Posted 16 January, 2013 Their goals seemed avoidable, though I'm told they did create some other chances so I won't grumble at all about that. Great comeback and superb to see two assists from the fullbacks being brave when it would be fair to accept they would be worried about bombing forward in other circumstances. Say what you want out the Adkins relentless positivity in public but he has never once derailed from that theme and it seems the players are well on board with him. Apparently Yoshida was on US TV before the game and when asked about Saints upturn in form since November he instantly said Adkins and his positivity. It's a bonus point both with respect to feelings before the game and then how the game panned out. But more importantly it adds to that momentum that we're hell bent on picking up points no matter what and we'll play a style and team on a game-by-game basis to get them. Looks like the 'Southampton Way' quickly changed from show horning players into a pre-meditated formation and playing one way to selecting the best men for the job to stop the opposition and keep a goal threat ourselves. Quite a dramatic change if we're honest. But no complaints from me, very happy with how quickly we've adapted to this league and the belief instilled into the players from the Management team. Feels like we can have a proper go at a good Everton team now and make it a very different game to earlier this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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