Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I was tempted to ask him the same thing. Hopefully not What did i say on the subject yesterday, the're using him to "leak" what they want known, if that wasn't the case he would have been gagged long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Seriously wondering how we intend to keep Morgan now. Would have to capture all of our targets early next week! Agreed. I've already written him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Agreed. I've already written him off. Whether we're intending to keep him or not is of little import, at the last I heard albeit 3rd hand he had absolutely no intention of staying.Now it's just a case of when and how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I'm shocked and disappointed that we've sold Chambers because I think he has a lot of potential. However, in the interests of objectivity, I'd like to mention an important statistic - plus/minus rating. It's the difference between goals for and goals against while a player was on the pitch. Last season I think Chambers was -8 and Clyne was +12. Sure, it's not a "be all and end all" stat but it is quite insightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Would you say he we got good money for him? Or he was undersold? Or the fee was about right. I think this is the factor which most decides how I feel about it. Personally my feeling is that the fee was "about right" for a player of his ability/potential, and this is personally why I am disappointed. Keep in mind the timing and our lack of squad, we should have sold him for a mint, or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Full disclosure - I wasn't told about this. Whether that means it's a new development (unlikely) or something we were hoping to prevent, I am not sure. Seriously wondering how we intend to keep Morgan now. Would have to capture all of our targets early next week! From reading your posts over the last 3 or 4 weeks, it would appear you're being used, which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Would you say he we got good money for him? Or he was undersold? Or the fee was about right. I think this is the factor which most decides how I feel about it. Personally my feeling is that the fee was "about right" for a player of his ability/potential, and this is personally why I am disappointed. Keep in mind the timing and our lack of squad, we should have sold him for a mint, or not at all. If the fee is close to the £16m that's being reported, I think it's a fair deal tbh. Always a shame to see academy players leave, but without changing positions his development would have stalled, so I can't blame him for wanting to go to Arsenal to have a crack at getting a first-team place there. We can get in a good replacement (maybe somebody versatile who can play across the defence or in midfield too) for a fraction of the price and maybe selling Chambers means keeping Schneiderlin? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 A couple of my neutral mates sum it up. We get top dollar money on the sales and then offer peanuts for our targets. What a complete and utter joke we can't have our cake and eat it and expect to remain a premiership club. I got 7-1 odds on relegation. I'd get the bets on now before we are odds on favourite. Yes i am still very very angry with Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Selling players for good money and then offering peanuts for replacements. This happened before and we got relegated. The thought of having Ings and Sharp in the squad next year worries me massively. If the board think that getting Jenkinson and Gnabry on loan is a good idea then the warning signs will be well and truly illuminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoSaint Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I'm shocked and disappointed that we've sold Chambers because I think he has a lot of potential. However, in the interests of objectivity, I'd like to mention an important statistic - plus/minus rating. It's the difference between goals for and goals against while a player was on the pitch. Last season I think Chambers was -8 and Clyne was +12. Sure, it's not a "be all and end all" stat but it is quite insightful. Probably not the time to apply a Hockey performance metric given the current scenario ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Probably not the time to apply a Hockey performance metric given the current scenario ! I hesitated! But it adds a little objectivity to the hand-wringing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Chambers is not the next Bale. He's the next Matt Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Sad and unnecessary sale. My interest for the club and premiership in general just gets lower and lower. Honestly don't see the point, at least fight to keep our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Sad and unnecessary sale. My interest for the club and premiership in general just gets lower and lower. Honestly don't see the point, at least fight to keep our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 From reading your posts over the last 3 or 4 weeks, it would appear you're being used, which is a shame. If you think that, then it's also worth considering whether the vitriol aimed at Lallana is fair or not. A lot of it came off the back of Guan's insider updates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 If you think that, then it's also worth considering whether the vitriol aimed at Lallana is fair or not. A lot of it came off the back of Guan's insider updates... My vitriol came from his first press conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Chambers is not the next Bale. He's the next Matt Mills. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Chambers is not the next Bale. He's the next Matt Mills. We don't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Full disclosure - I wasn't told about this. Whether that means it's a new development (unlikely) or something we were hoping to prevent, I am not sure. Seriously wondering how we intend to keep Morgan now. Would have to capture all of our targets early next week! Sorry to say this mate but it now seems as you are being used to play us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 (edited) Sorry to say this mate but it now seems as you are being used to play us! and it's taken you all 2 months to work that out? Free parking,Benali,MLT,FF's book, stripes....well yes I guess you were all just asking to be taken in. Someone somewhere reads what you like and tells you what you want to hear. The voices in the wilderness are just decried and called idiots. Edited 26 July, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 John cross has spoken to coaches at arsenal about chambers and they see him as a project to maybe turn into a holding midfielder in a few years after being integrated as the back up right back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 As a matter of interest did the club say Chambers was ill and why not in the squad .? If the club officially told us that it is appalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I did say all this would happen... But then again, what do I know eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I did say all this would happen... But then again, what do I know eh Not sure what you know, you wouldn't tell us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I did say all this would happen... But then again, what do I know eh Pretty sure you said nothing of the sort. Sorry son, to get the credit you need to have had the balls to have actually stated what you knew. Which with an anonymous handle on a web forum doesn't really require any balls at all. Still beyond you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Been saying it since Cortese left, browse my posts since then. I do owe an explanatory post, i know that, but my previous posts over the last few months pretty much sum it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Been saying it since Cortese left, browse my posts since then. I do owe an explanatory post, i know that, but my previous posts over the last few months pretty much sum it up. So now you have been proved right you'll explain what you knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 So now you have been proved right you'll explain what you knew? Perhaps he'll do that, I saw a rumour over on Saintslist of late which shocked me a bit, don't know if any of you others saw it and I'm certainly not going to repeat it here. Who knows it might be unbased but someone actually wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Perhaps he'll do that, I saw a rumour over on Saintslist of late which shocked me a bit, don't know if any of you others saw it and I'm certainly not going to repeat it here. Who knows it might be unbased but someone actually wrote it. Ah ok I know something too but I'm not saying either ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Ah ok I know something too but I'm not saying either ! I'm kind of inciting you to read Saintslist. I didn't start the rumour, don't post there, just read the odd post from time to time. They don't like their material being put up on this forum. However it is not usually a place where wild fantasies abound, bit staid, so for someone to actually write what I saw sort of amazed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I'm kind of inciting you to read Saintslist. I didn't start the rumour, don't post there, just read the odd post from time to time. They don't like their material being put up on this forum. However it is not usually a place where wild fantasies abound, bit staid, so for someone to actually write what I saw sort of amazed me. PM me a link if poss cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I'm kind of inciting you to read Saintslist. I didn't start the rumour, don't post there, just read the odd post from time to time. They don't like their material being put up on this forum. However it is not usually a place where wild fantasies abound, bit staid, so for someone to actually write what I saw sort of amazed me. I can't even find the website let alone the post, link please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM me a link if poss cheers Don't know if that's possible, might cut and past the post for you though. However do not, and that's do not at all at all post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 I can't even find the website let alone the post, link please. Can't do that, it's not a website, it's a private E mail list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Don't know if that's possible, might cut and past the post for you though. However do not, and that's do not at all at all post it here. LOL. Basically Les Reed is a paedo, then. Or Cortese. Or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM me the article too please buddy looked on Google for saints link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM here please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM please......I do miss these good old PM rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 If anyone PMs it to me I will put it up on here, and that's a promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM as well please Windows, you have me very intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 LOL. Basically Les Reed is a paedo, then. Or Cortese. Or both. Of course not, Saintslist is not a revolutionary sort of place. It's very down to earth as a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 LOL. Basically Les Reed is a paedo, then. Or Cortese. Or both. Oh noes! Poor Calum! He is leaving to escape the bummings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 LOL. Basically Les Reed is a paedo, then. Or Cortese. Or both. found it allegedly the club are playing hard ball about bonuses owed to players and staff and lots of cut backs are taking place who knows if it is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM as well please Windows, you have me very intrigued. Get one of the others to do it, try hypo, dinner time for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 found it allegedly the club are playing hard ball about bonuses owed to players and staff and lots of cut backs are taking place who knows if it is true Come on Jamie, you know it didn't say that, unless of course you found the original post, couldn't be bothered to look for it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 found it allegedly the club are playing hard ball about bonuses owed to players and staff and lots of cut backs are taking place who knows if it is true meh. That's up there with the if only they'd returned his phone calls, Lallana would never have even wanted to join Liverpool type stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM please Windows, if you can be arsed. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 PM please Windows, if you can be arsed. Cheers. what's the point, anyway last call for dinner. Probably unbased anyway, sort it out with DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 The Geen Bay Packers star wide receiver got a bumper new contract today - maybe Ralphy's taking note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 26 July, 2014 Share Posted 26 July, 2014 Imo clyne much better RB than chambers. Don't get me wrong chambers is a talent but it was always going to come to a head. Both are too good to play second fiddle. Although can't see chambers playing anymore at arsenal. for me clyne's pace makes him my preferred choice. In isolation 12-16m for chambers is great business but it's the message this sends out that is the concern. Until we replace each departure with decent players it will look like we are asset stripping. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If it was just Chambers leaving I could almost go with this! however its not is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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