Batman Posted 12 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2014 The longer roy is in charge the more I turn off from England He is anything but interesting. His team selections are completely predictable and safe His love for squad players from the top 6 is hilarious Ironically, the best England sides in the last 25 years (90 + 96) had players from all many different sides in the squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 The longer roy is in charge the more I turn off from England He is anything but interesting. His team selections are completely predictable and safe His love for squad players from the top 6 is hilarious Ironically, the best England sides in the last 25 years (90 + 96) had players from all many different sides in the squads The worst thing is I was quite excited by him taking charge and thought he would do things a bit differently. It's been a real disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2014 The worst thing is I was quite excited by him taking charge and thought he would do things a bit differently. It's been a real disappointment. Agree with that. But I think due to where he has come from, the way he is going about it, makes it even worse..... When I hear his press conferences on the radio or SSN. He makes me want to punch the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Hodgson is a clown and should have gone after Euro 2012 let alone 2014. That Italy game in Kiev was an utter joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 The longer roy is in charge the more I turn off from England He is anything but interesting. His team selections are completely predictable and safe His love for squad players from the top 6 is hilarious Ironically, the best England sides in the last 25 years (90 + 96) had players from all many different sides in the squads This, 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 (edited) Where was this thread last season? Or should I say the anti Woy comments? Speaking to a saints fan last week who claimed Lallana was never really any good, had one good season and even then....... This is just typical of a lot of our fans at the moment. Jesus, I'd Lalanna back (on playing ability for us) at the drop of a hat. Edited 12 October, 2014 by Noodles34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Where was this thread last season? Or should I say the anti Woy comments? Speaking to a saints fan last week who claimed Lallana was never really any good, had one good season and even then....... This is just typical of a lot of our fans at the moment. Jesus, I'd Lalanna back (on playing ability for us) at the drop of a hat. People say it as they see it There was a bit of optimism going into the World Cup Things change as do opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Where was this thread last season? Or should I say the anti Woy comments? Speaking to a saints fan last week who claimed Lallana was never really any good, had one good season and even then....... This is just typical of a lot of our fans at the moment. Jesus, I'd Lalanna back (on playing ability for us) at the drop of a hat. Last year Saints fans, me included were proud of our players being called up for England, we actually felt that roy was going to give players not in the top 6 a chance. What we didn't think would happen was he would give them an insight to England then make it clear they wouldn't actually play or feel part of the squad unless they played for one of these clubs. As far as I'm concerned England is a busted flush until players are played because of their form and not because they are good marketing for the fa. The England manager shouldn't even be allowed in st. Mary's as it gives us no benefit as we all know it will follow the same format. Player picked, player 'advised' to move to big club, player agitates for move, player gone. So like me I'm sure some foolishly believed being picked from England was a good thing. Not any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 People say it as they see it There was a bit of optimism going into the World Cup Things change as do opinions There was actually an amount of philosophical pessimism going into the world cup but nobody foresaw just how bad we would be. Hodgson should have been replaced then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2014 There was actually an amount of philosophical pessimism going into the world cup but nobody foresaw just how bad we would be. Hodgson should have been replaced then! I think the optimism I mentioned was that we would go out and play with a bit of freedom as there was almost zero expectation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Better link to above http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/11/roy-hodgson-england-estonia-euro-2016-qualifier?CMP=twt_gu "Within the England group we believe in their qualities." Oh oh... Hodgson has been watching video of Koeman. What can it mean?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 A good example of that is Chambers. Here is a guy who played a few times for the Under-19s, jumped straight over the Under-21s and went into the first team. That is a great pat on the back for our development system. I can't believe Woy said that. What in gods earth is up with him? He cannot see the wood from the trees to save his life, stop waffling and tell it as it is. If he was still here this year, he'd be in the U21's. And I think you'll find that it was Southampton who developed him, not the England FA ****ty setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2014 A good example of that is Chambers. Here is a guy who played a few times for the Under-19s, jumped straight over the Under-21s and went into the first team. That is a great pat on the back for our development system. I can't believe Woy said that. What in gods earth is up with him? He cannot see the wood from the trees to save his life, stop waffling and tell it as it is. If he was still here this year, he'd be in the U21's. And I think you'll find that it was Southampton who developed him, not the England FA ****ty setup. Someone outside of the top 4-/5 will have to perform for at least a whole season before getting even considered Delph has been good for villa for a long time. Clyne, likewise for us. Curtis Davis not even a chance. Roy is a terrible manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Someone outside of the top 4-/5 will have to perform for at least a whole season before getting even considered Delph has been good for villa for a long time. Clyne, likewise for us. Curtis Davis not even a chance. Roy is a terrible manager It's not just Roy, it's the entire FA setup. Corrupt from the top down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 October, 2014 Author Share Posted 12 October, 2014 It's not just Roy, it's the entire FA setup. Corrupt from the top down. Sadly, we will win this group with maybe 1 good performance. All along the way, people will defend roy saying "what do you expect" I fear for the Scotland game next month wGS has a group of players, way less talented working well. Their performance away to Germany was excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 It's not just Roy, it's the entire FA setup. Corrupt from the top down. What about their corruption leads to players from small clubs not being picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 ENGLAND: Hart; Chambers, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines; Henderson, Delph, Wilshere; Welbeck, Rooney, Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 (edited) A good example of that is Chambers. Here is a guy who played a few times for the Under-19s, jumped straight over the Under-21s and went into the first team. That is a great pat on the back for our development system. I can't believe Woy said that. What in gods earth is up with him? He cannot see the wood from the trees to save his life, stop waffling and tell it as it is. If he was still here this year, he'd be in the U21's. And I think you'll find that it was Southampton who developed him, not the England FA ****ty setup. WTF? Did he really say that? He is even more of a twonk than I already thought. Noodles is true with the "Where was this thread last season? Or should I say the anti Woy comments" At that time it looked like he was heading for a refreshing change of tact, and selecting players on merit for current form, and not for who they play for. But come World Cup time, even though technically SRL was an LFC player,(he obviously hadnt had any benefit of LFC coaching skills by then), he got a few minutes in games where we needed to score goals, yet we got like for like midfield changes each game. To be honest I've tried to blank out the WC matches so I can't remember if Shaw or Judas AL got any starts. And with the "We understand that competition for places at the top clubs is very high and it might be easier for some players to show their worth with England rather than their clubs.” quote shows just how far up the arses of the Big Teams he is , its unbelievable. Doing it week in week out AGAINST those very players who keeping potential England players out of their club team counts for nothing. WAC he is. Next time he wants to roll into town and watch us at SMS, I'd (adopts Kevin Keegan mood of outrage) I'd love it, really love it, if the club said only a few tickets are available in the Itchen stand .... can we have your Credit Card details please. Edited 12 October, 2014 by ericofarabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 It's not just Roy, it's the entire FA setup. Corrupt from the top down. Its not corruption. It is concious/sub-concious lazy small mindedness. Bloody poor regardless, Hodgson is a very poor, uninspiring figure head for the national team. Ridiculous that there has been recent discussion regarding the "Rooney Rule" coming in to English football, but the real concern should be the real lack of English Managers getting the opportunity or performing in the English game currently. There is no competition or threat to someone like Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 A good example of that is Chambers. Here is a guy who played a few times for the Under-19s, jumped straight over the Under-21s and went into the first team. That is a great pat on the back for our development system. I can't believe Woy said that. What in gods earth is up with him? He cannot see the wood from the trees to save his life, stop waffling and tell it as it is. If he was still here this year, he'd be in the U21's. And I think you'll find that it was Southampton who developed him, not the England FA ****ty setup. That is a terrible quote, utterly clueless from Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 I really am at a loss with England atm it's destroyed all enjoyment in it for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 I really am at a loss with England atm it's destroyed all enjoyment in it for me! The last time I enjoyed England was the 04-06 era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 The last time I enjoyed England was the 04-06 era. 1966 wasn't too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 (edited) ... Edited 12 October, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 ENGLAND: Hart; Chambers, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines; Henderson, Delph, Wilshere; Welbeck, Rooney, Lallana. lol. How in the name of all that is holy has Chambers kept his place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldridge Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 lol. How in the name of all that is holy has Chambers kept his place? He plays for Arsenal, and Arsenal are better than Southampton, therefore Chambers > Clyne. I sometimes think that this really is the logic behind the selection process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrasaint Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 He plays for Arsenal, and Arsenal are better than Southampton, therefore Chambers > Clyne. I sometimes think that this really is the logic behind the selection process. oh well plus side no play no injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 It's pathetic and I can only think he's using Chambers as he wants Chambers to see at first hand the style of play he wants for the future. Chambers was captain of the under 19's, so maybe they plan that role for him in the under 21's. I really feel for Nathaniel Clyne and hope everyone at the club give him a special welcome next weekend. I hope also another type of welcome is reserved for Hodgson next time he shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 He plays for Arsenal, and Arsenal are better than Southampton, therefore Chambers > Clyne. I sometimes think that this really is the logic behind the selection process. I don't 'sometimes think' this I 'always know' it. Ever since the days of Beattie being continuously overlooked by goal shy Heskey. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Chambers being overlooked for the whole of last season, then going straight into the England team the moment he signs for Arsenal is just a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 I just listened to half an hour build up on Radio 5 with Jermaine Jenas, Graham Taylor and Terry Butcher, all of them keen to emphasise how excited they are about England's approach and performances so far in these qualifiers. Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 last fridays " Wembley show " was just a PR exercise in choosing as many London-based players as possible...... in a vain attempt to fill the empty seats in our extremely overpriced national stadium..... had absolutely nothing to do with choosing the " best side " and in the vain hope that RH can silence his critics and choose players like Forster and Clyne, and then prattle on about tough competition for places. The only way they'll get a game now is if someone is seriously injured ....Shame on you Woy..if we lose ....I'll love listening to the excuses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 I don't 'sometimes think' this I 'always know' it. Ever since the days of Beattie being continuously overlooked by goal shy Heskey. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Chambers being overlooked for the whole of last season, then going straight into the England team the moment he signs for Arsenal is just a coincidence. ..that makes two of us then....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken spoke Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 I hope we loose, so i can see him squirm, and have to give his lame excuses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 World class dummy there from Rooney, he really is a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 last fridays " Wembley show " was just a PR exercise in choosing as many London-based players as possible...... in a vain attempt to fill the empty seats in our extremely overpriced national stadium..... ..... You've completely lost me now, what show was put on at Wembley on Friday? Press conference? Not sure what that has to do with selling tickets, home games are fairly cheap and hardly anyone there supports the big London clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 last fridays " Wembley show " was just a PR exercise in choosing as many London-based players as possible...... in a vain attempt to fill the empty seats in our extremely overpriced national stadium..... had absolutely nothing to do with choosing the " best side " and in the vain hope that RH can silence his critics and choose players like Forster and Clyne, and then prattle on about tough competition for places. The only way they'll get a game now is if someone is seriously injured ....Shame on you Woy..if we lose ....I'll love listening to the excuses..... Eh? Only 7 of the 21 man squad came from London clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 I don't usually see the point in jack wilshere but he was better than average in that half. Rooney and chambers on the other hand, were a complete pile of turd. And the ref is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 He can feck off if he think he is gonna a Season Ticket, wined and dined and entertained with free flowing fabulous football at SMS every two weeks!! #twofacedfreeloader Are you Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 At least Clyne won't be getting injured playing for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 This is painful...we think as a nation we are knowledgable about football and we offer the world this! Roy needs to go..chambers better than Clyne???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 We would have more of a threat down the right with Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 About bloody time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Goal keeper mistake wins it. What a truly uninspiring display of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Yeah! Wayne Rooney football genius has rescued us! 12 months time he will become our greatest ever striker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Terrible goalkeeping there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Who the hell is that knob townsend going to give MOM to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Who the hell is that knob townsend going to give MOM to? Probably Chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Who the hell is that knob townsend going to give MOM to? Rooney I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Waiting with baited breath to hear what Woy has to say about it, and that is crap Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 October, 2014 Share Posted 12 October, 2014 Wilshere MoM again according to Townsend ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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