Turkish Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Which of our injured players are due back for this one? Alderwiereld must be if he was only a doubt for yesterday? Arent Tony and Morgan both back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Arent Tony and Morgan both back? Pretty sure that was the hope from RK at last Fridays presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Arent Tony and Morgan both back? I really hope so. If that's the case, I'd go with: --------------Forster------------------- Clyne, Fonte, Alderwiereld, Bertrand ------Wanyama, Schniederlin------- --------------Davis------------------- Long----------------------------Tadic --------------Pelle-------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 I really hope so. If that's the case, I'd go with: --------------Forster------------------- Clyne, Fonte, Alderwiereld, Bertrand ------Wanyama, Schniederlin------- --------------Davis------------------- Long----------------------------Tadic --------------Pelle-------------------- Pretty much full strength for us, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Rest anyone who is tired or has a niggle for the league cup game. We're not going to finish top 4 so may as well go all out for the cup. No. The League Cup is worthless compared to staying in the Premier League. Lose to Burnley and we will start the slide to the relegation zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 This game will be tough, Burnley will be seeing this game as a must win to get some valuable points before the christmas period. I will be there and I'm yet to see Saints win away from home this season. (I've only missed the away wins this season so blame me if it doesn't go to plan) Fingers firmly crossed for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 No. The League Cup is worthless compared to staying in the Premier League. Lose to Burnley and we will start the slide to the relegation zone. oh f*ck off now with your same tedious sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 No. The League Cup is worthless compared to staying in the Premier League. Lose to Burnley and we will start the slide to the relegation zone. One solitary joke now into its eighth glorious year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 oh f*ck off now with your same tedious sh*t. One solitary joke now into its eighth glorious year. Yet it still gets bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Just imagine if it did happen. 2nd in November and relegated in May would be one of the biggest shocks of all time. Current odds are 250-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Tadic HAS to play No. 10. Has to. He simply hasn't got the pace to be a winger at this level. He was 10x better last night. Got involved with Pelle and could've had 2 assists in the first half had he not got the passes completely wrong. So much more dangerous in there. I think we'll see him in there when Jay returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 play like we did tonight (against united) and we will win what miss loads of chances and concede two poor goals from mistakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Tadic HAS to play No. 10. Has to. He simply hasn't got the pace to be a winger at this level. He was 10x better last night. Got involved with Pelle and could've had 2 assists in the first half had he not got the passes completely wrong. So much more dangerous in there. I think we'll see him in there when Jay returns. that would require playing 4231, when Koeman prefers 433? Unless you propose on playing a 433 with two holding midfielders and one attacking number 10 like player? then it would mean having all lot long, mane and pelle on... (or jay rod when he's back) and dropping one of wanyama, schneiderlin or steven davis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 One solitary joke now into its eighth glorious year. PEDANT ALERT!! Ninth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Looking forward to this trip and 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Just imagine if it did happen. 2nd in November and relegated in May would be one of the biggest shocks of all time. Current odds are 250-1. Be even more amazing if it was Chelsea. Currently 1st and 2000/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 I really hope so. If that's the case, I'd go with: --------------Forster------------------- Clyne, Fonte, Alderwiereld, Bertrand ------Wanyama, Schniederlin------- --------------Davis------------------- Long----------------------------Tadic --------------Pelle-------------------- Yep - we will slaughter them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 No. The League Cup is worthless compared to staying in the Premier League. Lose to Burnley and we will start the slide to the relegation zone. We will win both. We are Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Exactly the right oportunity to decide if we should go for Danny Ings. If he makes fools of our defenders ....then maybe it's a go. If he's played out of the game / is almost invisible ....don't bother and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Exactly the right oportunity to decide if we should go for Danny Ings. If he makes fools of our defenders ....then maybe it's a go. If he's played out of the game / is almost invisible ....don't bother and move on. Yep, that's how players are scouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Yep, that's how players are scouted. I'm pretty sure it's how Liverpool picked out Lovren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCRedandWhite Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 How many are we likely to take up to Burnley? Noticed the club travel has gone off sale due to low demand ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Be even more amazing if it was Chelsea. Currently 1st and 2000/1 even if they lose every game tbh I don't think they would be in bottom 3, maybe 17/16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 9 December, 2014 Share Posted 9 December, 2014 Why do people come on here with their "MUST WIN" ... Ahhh only joking... lines or their 'one more loss and we're in a relegation fight' comments just to see if they can get a 'bite'? Are there people ****ing idiots or just attention seeking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Why do people come on here with their "MUST WIN" ... Ahhh only joking... lines or their 'one more loss and we're in a relegation fight' comments just to see if they can get a 'bite'? Are there people ****ing idiots or just attention seeking? I can't speak for others but I said 'Must win' to take the p*ss out of the people who over react to every loss/bit of bad news, as happens so often on this forum. So sorry it bothered you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 No. The League Cup is worthless compared to staying in the Premier League. Lose to Burnley and we will start the slide to the relegation zone. But then we will sack Koeman and get Hoddle in and all will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 But then we will sack Koeman and get Hoddle in and all will be fine. I think Dalek would explode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I think Dalek would explode! Ejaculate .... Ejaculate ..... Ejaculate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Can see us getting turned over - think the intensity of the game will catch a few by surprise, especially since the past week has been pretty draining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Can see us getting turned over - think the intensity of the game will catch a few by surprise, especially since the past week has been pretty draining. I think if we play at the same level as we did against Arsenal and Man Utd then we'll win, we'd be too much for them. They will fight, of course, but their lack of any true PL quality through that side is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Can see us getting turned over - think the intensity of the game will catch a few by surprise, especially since the past week has been pretty draining. I can't, then again we don't really know where we are with key injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm amazed by the reaction to the Man U loss. I get the disappointment. But the game also revealed beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are actually a better team than Man U currently. Replay that game four more times and we would have won 3 and drawn 1. So that's a reason to be excited, isn't it? I watched the Arsenal game with Arsenal fans and they agreed it was an even game until we lost Toby. Bad luck usually evens out. Truth is, we had a couple of lucky wins earlier in the season. We were never the second best team in the league. But we have enough evidence now to know that we're a lot better than the 8th best team. We're genuinely, definitively better than last year, and, bar a truly dreadful run of injuries, the final table should show that. I'd say we would end higher than Man U, except they have a bunch of great players due to return. Every game has a huge roll-of-the-dice element to it. That's football. There's a chance we draw or lose at Burnley, but it's really unlikely. Davis had a brilliant game Monday, as did Wanyama. Tadic often looked back to his best. I was excited at the cameo played by Hesketh. He's going to be fabulous. Isgrove and Reed are there too at some point. We have more depth than people think. Even Mane is a couple of great finishes away from being a rediscovered hero here. If his dribble through had found an opening Monday it would have been a goal of the season. When confidence matters so much to a player, we should ease up on the zingers against him. He'll get there. Keep the faith, boys and girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm amazed by the reaction to the Man U loss. I get the disappointment. But the game also revealed beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are actually a better team than Man U currently. Replay that game four more times and we would have won 3 and drawn 1. So that's a reason to be excited, isn't it? I watched the Arsenal game with Arsenal fans and they agreed it was an even game until we lost Toby. Bad luck usually evens out. Truth is, we had a couple of lucky wins earlier in the season. We were never the second best team in the league. But we have enough evidence now to know that we're a lot better than the 8th best team. We're genuinely, definitively better than last year, and, bar a truly dreadful run of injuries, the final table should show that. I'd say we would end higher than Man U, except they have a bunch of great players due to return. Every game has a huge roll-of-the-dice element to it. That's football. There's a chance we draw or lose at Burnley, but it's really unlikely. Davis had a brilliant game Monday, as did Wanyama. Tadic often looked back to his best. I was excited at the cameo played by Hesketh. He's going to be fabulous. Isgrove and Reed are there too at some point. We have more depth than people think. Even Mane is a couple of great finishes away from being a rediscovered hero here. If his dribble through had found an opening Monday it would have been a goal of the season. When confidence matters so much to a player, we should ease up on the zingers against him. He'll get there. Keep the faith, boys and girls. ? like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm amazed by the reaction to the Man U loss. I get the disappointment. But the game also revealed beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are actually a better team than Man U currently. Replay that game four more times and we would have won 3 and drawn 1. So that's a reason to be excited, isn't it? I watched the Arsenal game with Arsenal fans and they agreed it was an even game until we lost Toby. Bad luck usually evens out. Truth is, we had a couple of lucky wins earlier in the season. We were never the second best team in the league. But we have enough evidence now to know that we're a lot better than the 8th best team. We're genuinely, definitively better than last year, and, bar a truly dreadful run of injuries, the final table should show that. I'd say we would end higher than Man U, except they have a bunch of great players due to return. Every game has a huge roll-of-the-dice element to it. That's football. There's a chance we draw or lose at Burnley, but it's really unlikely. Davis had a brilliant game Monday, as did Wanyama. Tadic often looked back to his best. I was excited at the cameo played by Hesketh. He's going to be fabulous. Isgrove and Reed are there too at some point. We have more depth than people think. Even Mane is a couple of great finishes away from being a rediscovered hero here. If his dribble through had found an opening Monday it would have been a goal of the season. When confidence matters so much to a player, we should ease up on the zingers against him. He'll get there. Keep the faith, boys and girls. But you have summed up exactly why there is a bit of negative reaction to this latest loss, the third in a row, we are losing when as you say we should be winning, means that something is fundamentally wrong with our tactics or execution of them. We could have beaten Arsenal but we didn't, we definitely should have beaten Utd but we didn't, it means basically that we cannot seem to fulfill our potential against some of the better sides in the league. Three straight losses will never ever be met with universal approval, questions will be asked every time. Why I bet even Ronald has had to explain it away, as he says when you lose everything is shît. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 It's the execution - tactics create chances players miss em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 It's the execution - tactics create chances players miss em As we saw against Utd, that riles fans you know, especially when the opponents have a player who sinks any loose ball that comes his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 As we saw against Utd, that riles fans you know, especially when the opponents have a player who sinks any loose ball that comes his way. Agreed - sorely ****es me off. I was there and for the second I made two comments before the ball was kicked 1st one - not the time to be bringing a sub on. 2nd who the feck is watching van persie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 We'll smash 'em Burnley 0 - 19 Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 I'm amazed by the reaction to the Man U loss. I get the disappointment. But the game also revealed beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are actually a better team than Man U currently. Replay that game four more times and we would have won 3 and drawn 1. So that's a reason to be excited, isn't it? I watched the Arsenal game with Arsenal fans and they agreed it was an even game until we lost Toby. Bad luck usually evens out. Truth is, we had a couple of lucky wins earlier in the season. We were never the second best team in the league. But we have enough evidence now to know that we're a lot better than the 8th best team. We're genuinely, definitively better than last year, and, bar a truly dreadful run of injuries, the final table should show that. I'd say we would end higher than Man U, except they have a bunch of great players due to return. Every game has a huge roll-of-the-dice element to it. That's football. There's a chance we draw or lose at Burnley, but it's really unlikely. Davis had a brilliant game Monday, as did Wanyama. Tadic often looked back to his best. I was excited at the cameo played by Hesketh. He's going to be fabulous. Isgrove and Reed are there too at some point. We have more depth than people think. Even Mane is a couple of great finishes away from being a rediscovered hero here. If his dribble through had found an opening Monday it would have been a goal of the season. When confidence matters so much to a player, we should ease up on the zingers against him. He'll get there. Keep the faith, boys and girls. agreed with this! we have had our fair share of luck: hull- they had their third choice keeper and wanyama 40 yarder could've went anywhere swansea- until bony got sent off they were still in it qpr- had belle not scored that wonder goal there are probably others, but thats what football is- all ifs and buts, and who has the final luck on the day. also, on another note: guess who I saw at subway today Alderweireld! He said he will be fit for Burnley game A very nice guy indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Personally am worried about this one, and especially the pervading sense amongst fans that we will necessarily win. They will be well up for this one, and we have those injury problems in the midfield, allied to a striking department that hasn't been firing on any cylinders for a while. Manage your expectations, people. Would personally be happy to get back to a clean sheet and a 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Personally am worried about this one, and especially the pervading sense amongst fans that we will necessarily win. They will be well up for this one, and we have those injury problems in the midfield, allied to a striking department that hasn't been firing on any cylinders for a while. Manage your expectations, people. Would personally be happy to get back to a clean sheet and a 0-0. sorry but this burnley a team who has been in bottom 3 pretty much all season and have managed two wins.............if we don't feel we can get a win here we might as well jack in the PL. There has to be some teams we are allowed to feel confident against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Personally am worried about this one, and especially the pervading sense amongst fans that we will necessarily win. They will be well up for this one, and we have those injury problems in the midfield, allied to a striking department that hasn't been firing on any cylinders for a while. Manage your expectations, people. Would personally be happy to get back to a clean sheet and a 0-0. To be honest another defeat is just not to be considered, we won't lose 4 on the trot or take 1 point from 5, don't think we do that any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Be nice for Jay to travel up with the squad ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 But you have summed up exactly why there is a bit of negative reaction to this latest loss, the third in a row, we are losing when as you say we should be winning, means that something is fundamentally wrong with our tactics or execution of them. We could have beaten Arsenal but we didn't, we definitely should have beaten Utd but we didn't, it means basically that we cannot seem to fulfill our potential against some of the better sides in the league. Three straight losses will never ever be met with universal approval, questions will be asked every time. Why I bet even Ronald has had to explain it away, as he says when you lose everything is shît. I expect all the supporters of the bottom 5 have a similar tale to tell. At the end of the day you are judged by your results. The league table does not lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 (edited) Got spare train tickets for Saturday. 8.40 from Euston to Manchester Piccadilly and 6.14 back from Burnley Manchester Road to Euston via Preston. You would need to buy a ticket from Manchester to Burnley on the way up. It's with a 16-25 railcard. Late notice so make an offer. Edited 10 December, 2014 by Griffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 also, on another note: guess who I saw at subway today Alderweireld! He said he will be fit for Burnley game A very nice guy indeed Was this before or after Toby had eaten a sub? It could be similar to Shaw with Nando's. One Nando's and Luke is out sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 10 December, 2014 Share Posted 10 December, 2014 Was this before or after Toby had eaten a sub? It could be similar to Shaw with Nando's. One Nando's and Luke is out sick. This was while he was eating?! lol. maybe i disturbed the poor guy, but he took a photo with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I look back at the Hull/Swansea games and hope for a similar type of game. Deserved, hard-fought 1-0 away win in a freezing afternoon to end an unlucky run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Exactly the right oportunity to decide if we should go for Danny Ings. If he makes fools of our defenders ....then maybe it's a go. If he's played out of the game / is almost invisible ....don't bother and move on. that's probably why we never signed rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Personally i'll be spending all afternoon dreaming about what might have been as i watch Sam Vokes, Danny Ings and Lukas Jutwitez turning out for the opposition. It should have been us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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