Goatboy Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Personally i'll be spending all afternoon dreaming about what might have been as i watch Sam Vokes, Danny Ings and Lukas Jutwitez turning out for the opposition. It should have been us. And trippier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Personally i'll be spending all afternoon dreaming about what might have been as i watch Sam Vokes, Danny Ings and Lukas Jutwitez turning out for the opposition. It should have been us. TBF that is a ****ing good attacking line up................................................................................................................................................................for league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 1 point from 12. 4 with no win dropped to 5th in the table fear not, we will win on sat. 3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I expect all the supporters of the bottom 5 have a similar tale to tell. At the end of the day you are judged by your results. The league table does not lie. But that's the whole point. If your interest is in ranking every team in the premier league by overall ability and effectiveness (ie. the ranking they would have if they each got to play 100 games against each other) then the league table at any one point in time absolutely does lie. Think of the league table after 3 games for example. It might have Aston Villa in second place. Does that mean that at that moment in time Aston Villa are the second best team in the country? I think not. Everyone knows there is a ton of luck in football. But when it goes against you, people look for a non-iuck explanation and end up needlessly critical and bitter! It's a game. And we play it very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 [video=youtube_share;4rm3vFLi8_A] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 We created plenty of chances againt United. If we play with the same intensity we had for the first hour then the goals should come. Burnley 1-3 Saints (Pelle hat trick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 @SouthamptonFC: Koeman: "@Prowsey16 is back in training with the group. He needs more time, but will be in the squad for the next two games." #saintsfc @SouthamptonFC: Koeman says @AlderweireldTob is back in training and will be fit for Saturday, while @SchneiderlinMo4 has a chance for Tuesday. #saintsfc @SouthamptonFC: Koeman says he will take 22 players north for #SaintsFC's next two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I would guess at Toby in midfield and Yoshi at CB, with probably Mane dropping out and Davis moving further forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Vokes is out for Burnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Koeman: "I think we need 1 or 2 new players in January" Koeman on @JayRodriguez9: "He had to take a step back. It's not good to put a date on him - he needs time." Koeman: "We will sell nobody in January" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Koeman: "we will sell no one in January" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Who is the bird ask the questions to Ronald...she is rather annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 @SouthamptonFC: Koeman: "Maybe being fifth in the league is a bit more normal for #SaintsFC, but we'd like to do the maximum we can." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 1 point from 12. 4 with no win dropped to 5th in the table fear not, we will win on sat. 3-1 Surely it'd be better if we lose as a win would just confirm us as flat track bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Surely it'd be better if we lose as a win would just confirm us as flat track bullies. I know you are messing but I'll take the flat track bully tag all day - Arsenal annually finish Top 4 despite getting mugged off by all around them in the immediate vicinity in the table and often putting in performances like ours against Man Utd on Monday. It's converting draws to wins against the 'lesser' teams that will make the biggest difference to our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I know you are messing but I'll take the flat track bully tag all day - Arsenal annually finish Top 4 despite getting mugged off by all around them in the immediate vicinity in the table and often putting in performances like ours against Man Utd on Monday. It's converting draws to wins against the 'lesser' teams that will make the biggest difference to our season. The main advantage Arsenal have over us is the fact that they don't have to play Arsenal but we do. So that's six points we have to make up on them before the season even kicks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I know many will look at the simple facts of it and see we lost to MC, Arsenal and Utd so aren't as good, but I thought we did ok. Yeah, MC we under performed but it was likely to be first goal wins IMO and a tight first half. Arsenal we did fine and should have got the draw, just bad luck to lose a man. Then Utd, sorry if you think I'm biassed but they were dreadful. It was like a cup game where the underdogs come and rob you. Yet it was Man utd. We should have won and our attack badly let us down, as did Fonte, which is very rare. Not as bad as Arsenal-Utd, where Arsenal should have won by 3 or 4 yet somehow lost. Sometimes winning without playing well is a great sign, but with Man Utd I think it's luck that can't last, their defence is just appalling as opposition won't continue to miss chance after chance. Without De Gea they'd still be in the bottom half. united have got lucky again....they play liverpool this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 The main advantage Arsenal have over us is the fact that they don't have to play Arsenal but we do. So that's six points we have to make up on them before the season even kicks off. But conversely we would beat Southampton, especially with their injuries, so that's a 6 point advantage we would have over Arsenal. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Have been assassinated by starting a separate thread that referred to Burley not Burnley......! But I was trying to help and point out that for this making the trip up north forecast is for heavy snow in Burnley Saturday morning so be aware re travelling plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Have been assassinated by starting a separate thread that referred to Burley not Burnley......! But I was trying to help and point out that for this making the trip up north forecast is for heavy snow in Burnley Saturday morning so be aware re travelling plans Don't worry. Dalek's get assassinated on a regular basis, it is a role they play in the grand scheme of things. You have to keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 I know many will look at the simple facts of it and see we lost to MC, Arsenal and Utd so aren't as good, but I thought we did ok. Yeah, MC we under performed but it was likely to be first goal wins IMO and a tight first half. Arsenal we did fine and should have got the draw, just bad luck to lose a man. Then Utd, sorry if you think I'm biassed but they were dreadful. It was like a cup game where the underdogs come and rob you. Yet it was Man utd. We should have won and our attack badly let us down, as did Fonte, which is very rare. Not as bad as Arsenal-Utd, where Arsenal should have won by 3 or 4 yet somehow lost. Sometimes winning without playing well is a great sign, but with Man Utd I think it's luck that can't last, their defence is just appalling as opposition won't continue to miss chance after chance. Without De Gea they'd still be in the bottom half. United didn't look like Underdogs, they looked like an underperforming team with a class striker. There isn't much 'luck' to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Have been assassinated by starting a separate thread that referred to Burley not Burnley......! But I was trying to help and point out that for this making the trip up north forecast is for heavy snow in Burnley Saturday morning so be aware re travelling plans Not forecast here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2654264 This won't be like Birmingham away in 2012. Still no idea how I managed to drive home through all that. Roads out of Brum blocked, cars marooned on the M42. Spent 90 minutes following in the tracks of lorry at 30mph. Was only just past Winch that I stopped fearing for my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 (edited) ....... for this making the trip up north forecast is for heavy snow in Burnley Saturday morning ...... Where did you see that ? It's currently persisting down oop 'ere in Lanky, but whilst there may be some light snow in the offing for tomorrow morning, the forecast for Dingleland on Saturday is chilly ( 3 to 5 degrees ) the precipitation looks like it will be limited to showers, possibly with a little sleet. Edited 11 December, 2014 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 December, 2014 Share Posted 11 December, 2014 Great news if Toby is back. Stick him in midfield, with Davis back in usual position and Mane or Long on the bench. Toby's gonna score a screamer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Great news if Toby is back. Stick him in midfield, with Davis back in usual position and Mane or Long on the bench. Toby's gonna score a screamer soon. His passing/shooting techique is world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Great news if Toby is back. Stick him in midfield, with Davis back in usual position and Mane or Long on the bench. Toby's gonna score a screamer soon. no, no and no. We look so much more solid when Tony Underwood is in the back 4. Get that back 4 back together and stick with Davis and Wanyama in front who did well against Man United. Keep the front 4 the same too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 no, no and no. We look so much more solid when Tony Underwood is in the back 4. Get that back 4 back together and stick with Davis and Wanyama in front who did well against Man United. Keep the front 4 the same too. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Mane may be frustrating but he is the sort of player who's unpredictability and directness we may well need to get by Burnley. It doesn't even need to be clever, it could just be him running at the defence and we get a lucky break or bounce that another player benefits from, but you've got to make the pitch big against teams like Burnley and ensure they can't defend with the ball in front of them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 no, no and no. We look so much more solid when Tony Underwood is in the back 4. Get that back 4 back together and stick with Davis and Wanyama in front who did well against Man United. Keep the front 4 the same too. Toby looked good in midfield and defence, I don't have any concerns about him playing either position. What it comes down to is would you rather have Mane up front or Yoshi in defence. For me it's most definitely the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigsy Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Front 4 doesnt work and means we have nothing off the bench to influence things. Would rather Toby in midfield and then Long as an impact sub than finishing another game with Mayuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 The only time I don't mind Mayuka coming on is if we're winning 8-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 What position does everyone think Tadic is most effective in? Whatever it is, I would base the team around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 I'd be very surprised if we didn't score at least 4 tomorrow 4-0 sounds about right to me... it has good ring to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Toby looked good in midfield and defence, I don't have any concerns about him playing either position. . What it comes down to is would you rather have Mane up front or Yoshi in defence. For me it's most definitely the latter No, no, no we just cannot afford to have Jose and Maya playing together, one or t'other always produces at least one coc.kup of a howler per match whereas Toby is steady as a rock and brings more out of Jose. Try Yosh up front as a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 A nice comfortable win will set us up nicely for Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 No, no, no we just cannot afford to have Jose and Maya playing together, one or t'other always produces at least one coc.kup of a howler per match whereas Toby is steady as a rock and brings more out of Jose. Try Yosh up front as a sub. Maya has played well last 3 games imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 no, no and no. We look so much more solid when Tony Underwood is in the back 4. Get that back 4 back together and stick with Davis and Wanyama in front who did well against Man United. Keep the front 4 the same too. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Not forecast here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2654264 This won't be like Birmingham away in 2012. Still no idea how I managed to drive home through all that. Roads out of Brum blocked, cars marooned on the M42. Spent 90 minutes following in the tracks of lorry at 30mph. Was only just past Winch that I stopped fearing for my life. Remember that well, no way should it have gone ahead! I feel it it wasn't on SKY it wouldn't have. Took us 8 hours to drive home, nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adysaint Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Any news on the Kit ? I don't do twitter and havn't seen anything on the website. They used to say a few seasons ago. We wore Red/White v WHU but Navy v Villa so no clues there apart from one was a sunny day and the other was a Monday nite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Never mind, it was a vital point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Remember that well, no way should it have gone ahead! I feel it it wasn't on SKY it wouldn't have. Took us 8 hours to drive home, nightmare. I remember that game, not because I went but it was the day I flew out of Manchester to go skiing. The flight was delayed by the snow, turned out it was the start of a cold snap which hit Western Europe. When we landed in Grenoble it was -7, by the time we got up into the Alps it was below -20 and stayed there all week. Coldest game I can remember being at was Leeds away in League 1. Was about this time of year, the fixture before X-mas I think and was -5 all day. It was made all the worse by a truly dreadful game where both teams were rubbish. Leeds won it through a peach from Snodgrass. Best bit of that day was leaving the ground on the bingo bus, we saw a Leeds fan fall flat on his arse on the ice. Was lying there giving us all the Vs, whilst looking a complete tit, flat on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 12 December, 2014 Share Posted 12 December, 2014 Much needed win to stop negative press and players falling into a rot. A nice 2-0 victory would be great move us back into top 4 potentially if West Ham draw or lose and also move us further away from Liverpool as I see them getting beat vs UTD and we are all happy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 Much needed win to stop negative press and players falling into a rot. A nice 2-0 victory would be great move us back into top 4 potentially if West Ham draw or lose and also move us further away from Liverpool as I see them getting beat vs UTD and we are all happy again. Any win will do, if we perform like we did monday then we should create plenty. One thing's for certain, Mane can't be any worse if he plays. If he finds a team mate with even one pass, it will be an improvement! I can't see either Liverpool or Spurs winning tomorrow so we need to increase the gap over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 Any win will do, if we perform like we did monday then we should create plenty. One thing's for certain, Mane can't be any worse if he plays. If he finds a team mate with even one pass, it will be an improvement! I can't see either Liverpool or Spurs winning tomorrow so we need to increase the gap over them. the best one when he took a quick free kick. and then got the ball himself..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 Much needed win to stop negative press and players falling into a rot. A nice 2-0 victory would be great move us back into top 4 potentially if West Ham draw or lose and also move us further away from Liverpool as I see them getting beat vs UTD and we are all happy again. Agree, would be nice to get the other side of the 30 point mark before New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 James Ward Prowse's return could resolve some of our final delivery issues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 Sadio Mane! He's Senegalese Yeah he's a striker For saints fc Oh you're a goal scorer Don't let us down Score goals for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 James Ward Prowse's return could resolve some of our final delivery issues.... Can't wait to see a decent corner again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 Can't wait to see a decent corner again! Is he fit again then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 December, 2014 Share Posted 13 December, 2014 @ SouthamptonFC: Koeman: "@Prowsey16 is back in training with the group. He needs more time, but will be in the squad for the next two games." #saintsfc @SouthamptonFC: Koeman says @AlderweireldTob is back in training and will be fit for Saturday, while @SchneiderlinMo4 has a chance for Tuesday. #saintsfc @SouthamptonFC: Koeman says he will take 22 players north for #SaintsFC's next two games. ......IMO.... 1) JWP will be oncoming sub.today - 60-70 mins. depending on how the game is going. 2) Toby will start today. Schneiderlin probably won't play on Tuesday, either ...??? 3) " the 22" will surely contain 4 or 5 Academy graduates - just how many will get to play is anyone's guess.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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