Roger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 On the other hand....if we'd defended properly today we'd have won 2-0 But he's talking about the rest of season not today. We will have games when we concede goals you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Even Koeman said he wants another striker. Guess he is a knee jerker Koeman should take a good at himself for today's performance. First half was a tactical disgrace .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Word on the Ugly board is that Ings was in the Itchen Stand today watching the game. I do rate him, am sure HDCAJFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Word on the Ugly board is that Ings was in the Itchen Stand today watching the game. I do rate him, am sure HDCAJFU. Here we go again. As if he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Of course it may do. Mickey Evans (one striker) made the difference in 97 relegation run in! Lol.... very good, I like your humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Lol.... very good, I like your humour. Not humour it's true. Or billy sharps goals in the promotion season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 We don't want to spunk a load of money getting in someone whose not quite good enough and we're stuck with a 3 year contract. This is where the "Southampton way " bods earn their money . If our scouting set up is a good as we're told, they must have targets lined up for the summer, maybe we'll have to pay a premium to get one in early. If not they must have some loan options up their sleeve . It's clearly a awkward situation and we are not in a particularly good negotiating postion , but we need to sort something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Do we buy a striker as a stop gap ala (no disrespect) billy sharp If ings was in the stands, he could just have been watching as a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Do we buy a striker as a stop gap ala (no disrespect) billy sharp If ings was in the stands, he could just have been watching as a fan No one is going to buy Ings when he is out of contract in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Billy sharp was more than a stop gap. His goals helped get is promoted. What was his record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 No one is going to buy Ings when he is out of contract in the summer. Unless of course the prospective purchaser meets some of the folowing criteria: Desperate In need of a boost to enhance their league position etc Have a plague of injuries to contend with. Any team spring to mind ? Actually, I doubt we'll be trying to sign him in January, but stranger moves have materialised before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 No one is going to buy Ings when he is out of contract in the summer. Plus Burnley aren't going to let him go . There's no point, the money won't be worth losing him for the rest of the season .The time clubs will reluctently sell is 18 months out , not 6. I doubt his agent will advise a move either , out of contract means extra dosh for the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Unless of course the prospective purchaser meets some of the folowing criteria: Desperate In need of a boost to enhance their league position etc Have a plague of injuries to contend with. Any team spring to mind ? Actually, I doubt we'll be trying to sign him in January, but stranger moves have materialised before. Even then no club would bother, especially not saints, add in the fact he is Burnley's biggest hope of staying up (which will be worth more money than they could get for Ings) and it just isn't going to happen in Jan. If he was signed in the Summer I wouldn't be surprised however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 In my book we've needed an extra striker since August. Pelle is largely out on his own, and we need a greater goalm threat up front as we all know Longs record is preety poor. We need a striker who can make adifference, and actually score goals. Not easy to find and not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Koeman should take a good at himself for today's performance. First half was a tactical disgrace .... Right. And you are usually so on the money with your comments too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Billy sharp was more than a stop gap. His goals helped get is promoted. What was his record. The most prolific striker in Saints' history if I recall. RIP Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Here we go again. As if he was. He's staying at the De Vere tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 He's staying at the De Vere tonight... Do you mean the Grand Harbour? (Yes, I'm being pedantic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Do you mean the Grand Harbour? (Yes, I'm being pedantic) Won't sign until the summer as burnley won't let him go now with prem survival at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Luc Castaignos from Twente or John Guidetti from Citeh/Celtic - both are ex-Feyenoord and have played under Koeman before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Right. And you are usually so on the money with your comments too. Stick to the point, we were all over the place tactically in the first half and that should have been recognised and changed after 15 mins.... And if you think that is incorrect then that is your prerogative ... Not sure the facts are stacked in your favour however! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 Billy sharp was more than a stop gap. His goals helped get is promoted. What was his record. He wasn't bought to be the future of our strike force is what I ment He was brought in to add depth, which he did brilliantly Kind of what we need now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 24 January, 2015 Share Posted 24 January, 2015 He's staying at the De Vere tonight... Can't be true. Roger said he wouldn't have been at the game today...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 (edited) Billy Sharp was more than a stop gap. His goals helped get is promoted. What was his record. In the longer term, he didn't turn out to be much more than a stop gap. He was patently unfit (by Saints standards) when he arrived and didn't play a full game for more than a month and managed just one goal in his first eight outings. However, came up trumps with 8 goals in the last 8 games, (a strangely " off-form " Rickie Lambert managed only 3 in the same period). My estimation is that Billy was a typical crash / bang type / goal poacher. Some of his goal were pretty " untidy", but they made it over the line, and got us vital points. To that extent he helped get us promoted. His performances afterwards were sadly disappointing, and whilst we can be grateful for what he achieved then..... he hasn't set the football world alight since. Edited 25 January, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 .....and preferably someone who is built like a brick outhouse, and can handle himself. Pellé is already being triple-marked in many games. And has to be the most fouled player in the PL and gets sweet FA from referees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Let's get Ballotelli on loan. Tee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 So as far as I see it... Pellè Long - injured (weeks) Rodriguez - injured (???) Gallagher - injured (almost back) Mayuka Seager Gallagher is an interesting one. Certainly being off games for so long, it will take him a good while to get up to speed. I wasn't bowled over by him last season, but the club obviously like him and gave him a contract. Mayuka - well, one might wait for ever and a day for him to come good. Which leaves Seager. I thought he had some nice touches but.....we find ourselves in a position where I am not sure that we can afford to blood him in gently. If we were looking like a 7th-10th spot finish was all we could get, then fine, that would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 We need to gamble and sign a striker or at least some sort of attacker. With Long out were down to Tadic, Pelle, JWP and Elia. Another injury or suspension and were stuffed. You need three solid attackers and then options from the bench. We can't rely on youngsters to change games if we are serious about a top four push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2015 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Gallagher isn't IMO good enough to make the impact we need at this stage and hasn't played at all this season so will take ages to get up to speed. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but we need someone to come in and be able to make an impact now. Usually I would say to go with what we have but considering the prize we are potentially playing for I think it is worth a loan at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Stick to the point, we were all over the place tactically in the first half and that should have been recognised and changed after 15 mins.... And if you think that is incorrect then that is your prerogative ... Not sure the facts are stacked in your favour however! Maybe you could explain why it was 'a tactical disgrace'? From what I saw it was a case of too many players having a poor game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 So as far as I see it... Pellè Long - injured (weeks) Rodriguez - injured (???) Gallagher - injured (almost back) Mayuka Seager Gallagher is an interesting one. Certainly being off games for so long, it will take him a good while to get up to speed. I wasn't bowled over by him last season, but the club obviously like him and gave him a contract. Mayuka - well, one might wait for ever and a day for him to come good. Which leaves Seager. I thought he had some nice touches but.....we find ourselves in a position where I am not sure that we can afford to blood him in gently. If we were looking like a 7th-10th spot finish was all we could get, then fine, that would be perfect. I guess you did not see Mayuka getting injured in the ACON then. Even if he was any good (which he isn't) unlikely he will be back any time soon. Why do you think Gallagher is almost back, no sign of him in training videos/photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 (edited) This really is a priority when you consider that we are totally reliant on Pellé (as a front man). Shane Long has 4 goals,(but two were in one game as an oncoming sub.) Of course Elia had a great game last weekend, but he's scarecly got his feet under the table at SMS. Jack Cork (not outstanding yesterday by all accounts) has 3 goals, but he was the right man in the right placxe to get those and didn't have ANY real goal history with us before that. JWP and Steven Davis (whilst playing good roles in midfield) don't have a single goal between them.....and the real enigma must be Dusan Tadic (who looked world-class in the Autumn), but now is in the running for the Ali Dia award of the season - what has happened to him? More worryingly, Pelle has already picked up 2 yellow cards since his last suspension, and if ANYTHING were to happen to him (red card / injury) we would genuinely be up the creek without - a striker. The present injury list is frightening to look at, and JayRod's eventual return seems eons away - if indeed he gets back properly this season. I'm all in favour of RK playing his best team on a regular basis, but soon too many of them will be in the treatment room, and not the pitch. A drop in form now will be reminiscent of 1982.* Historical note:30 Jan. 1982 Lawrie McMenemy's side got to first place in old Div.1 (read Prem) and stayed there for 10 games, but with less than a dozen matches left, they had key injuries and lost form. They finished a miserable 7th ...having been in the top 5 since mid November. We are so well placed this season... that even with the prospect of waiting for the returning players in a month, maybe too late if we start dropping points now. Edited 25 January, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Can't be true. Roger said he wouldn't have been at the game today...... No I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 So as far as I see it... Pellè Long - injured (weeks) Rodriguez - injured (???) Gallagher - injured (almost back) Mayuka Seager Gallagher is an interesting one. Certainly being off games for so long, it will take him a good while to get up to speed. I wasn't bowled over by him last season, but the club obviously like him and gave him a contract. Mayuka - well, one might wait for ever and a day for him to come good. Which leaves Seager. I thought he had some nice touches but.....we find ourselves in a position where I am not sure that we can afford to blood him in gently. If we were looking like a 7th-10th spot finish was all we could get, then fine, that would be perfect. Mayuka is returning home injured as well, 3 or 4 week jobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Monkey Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 I would be happy to pay a couple of million on jay emanual Thomas from Bristol City. Ex arsenal and a good back up to pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 This really is a priority when you consider that we are totally reliant on Pellé (as a front man). Shane Long has 4 goals,(but two were in one game as an oncoming sub.) Of course Elia had a great game last weekend, but he's scarecly got his feet under the table at SMS. Jack Cork (not outstanding yesterday by all accounts) has 3 goals, but he was the right man in the right placxe to get those and didn't have ANY real goal history with us before that. JWP and Steven Davis (whilst playing good roles in midfield) don't have a single goal between them.....and the real enigma must be Dusan Tadic (who looked world-class in the Autumn), but now is in the running for the Ali Dia award of the season - what has happened to him? More worryingly, Pelle has already picked up 2 yellow cards since his last suspension, and if ANYTHING were to happen to him (red card / injury) we would genuinely be up the creek without - a striker. The present injury list is frightening to look at, and JayRod's eventual return seems eons away - if indeed he gets back properly this season. I'm all in favour of RK playing his best team on a regular basis, but soon too many of them will be in the treatment room, and not the pitch. A drop in form now will be reminiscent of 1982.* Historical note:30 Jan. 1982 Lawrie McMenemy's side got to first place in old Div.1 (read Prem) and stayed there for 10 games, but with less than a dozen matches left, they had key injuries and lost form. They finished a miserable 7th ...having been in the top 5 since mid November. We are so well placed this season... that even with the prospect of waiting for the returning players in a month, maybe too late if we start dropping points now. I seem to remember Steve Moran also picking up a long term injury in that run in. Without that happening, I'm sure we would have been champions that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 I would be happy to pay a couple of million on jay emanual Thomas from Bristol City. Ex arsenal and a good back up to pelle jesus christ. 3rd in the whole country and you suggest that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Monkey Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Remember Micky Evans? Did a great job for us them moved on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 jesus christ. 3rd in the whole country and you suggest that??? Jesus, beggars belief. Dell sized mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 jesus christ. 3rd in the whole country and you suggest that??? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 jesus christ. 3rd in the whole country and you suggest that??? Its Sunday jamie, you shouldn't be blaspheming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Remember Micky Evans? Did a great job for us them moved on... Remind us of what position in the league Micky Evans catapulted us to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 At the risk of showing my Dell sized mentality, I've always liked Hugo Rodallega . looks like he's out of contract in the summer . Maybe fulham want to get him off the wage bill, so might loan him out for the rest of the season. He's played regularly in the top flight and although not the best around , could do a job as a back up if he's chasing a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Monkey Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Micky Evans scored crucial goals to keep us up. We need a striker who can score 3-4 crucial goals towards the end of the season to take the relief off pelle. People laughed when we first signed marsden. Turned out Stella for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Micky Evans scored crucial goals to keep us up. We need a striker who can score 3-4 crucial goals towards the end of the season to take the relief off pelle. People laughed when we first signed marsden. Turned out Stella for us. we signed the likes of evens at the time as we were crap and his very little money to spend compared to everyone else in the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 At the risk of showing my Dell sized mentality, I've always liked Hugo Rodallega . looks like he's out of contract in the summer . Maybe fulham want to get him off the wage bill, so might loan him out for the rest of the season. He's played regularly in the top flight and although not the best around , could do a job as a back up if he's chasing a deal. if we were in a relegation battle yes. we're 3rd ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 if we were in a relegation battle yes. we're 3rd ffs. So who do you suggest will come and sit on the bench is case Pelle gets injured. Someone we only have to pay till June , and don't need to pay a fee for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 So who do you suggest will come and sit on the bench is case Pelle gets injured. Someone we only have to pay till June , and don't need to pay a fee for? If we sign anyone it will either be somebody in our longterm plans or a 6 month loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 This really is a priority when you consider that we are totally reliant on Pellé (as a front man). Shane Long has 4 goals,(but two were in one game as an oncoming sub.) Of course Elia had a great game last weekend, but he's scarecly got his feet under the table at SMS. Jack Cork (not outstanding yesterday by all accounts) has 3 goals, but he was the right man in the right placxe to get those and didn't have ANY real goal history with us before that. JWP and Steven Davis (whilst playing good roles in midfield) don't have a single goal between them.....and the real enigma must be Dusan Tadic (who looked world-class in the Autumn), but now is in the running for the Ali Dia award of the season - what has happened to him? More worryingly, Pelle has already picked up 2 yellow cards since his last suspension, and if ANYTHING were to happen to him (red card / injury) we would genuinely be up the creek without - a striker. The present injury list is frightening to look at, and JayRod's eventual return seems eons away - if indeed he gets back properly this season. I'm all in favour of RK playing his best team on a regular basis, but soon too many of them will be in the treatment room, and not the pitch. A drop in form now will be reminiscent of 1982.* Historical note:30 Jan. 1982 Lawrie McMenemy's side got to first place in old Div.1 (read Prem) and stayed there for 10 games, but with less than a dozen matches left, they had key injuries and lost form. They finished a miserable 7th ...having been in the top 5 since mid November. We are so well placed this season... that even with the prospect of waiting for the returning players in a month, maybe too late if we start dropping points now. Spot on David, I think a few of us fortysomething's are feeling a bit déjà vu at the moment. You have to have faith that those responsible at SMS are all over this, unthinkable that so close to CL and the related money that they won't get a loan in at the very least - doesn't have to be a world beater, doesn't have to be expensive, but we need experienced cover at CF that offers a genuine goal threat. Van Persie is Dutch and out of favour, perhaps Ron could do an Elia on him! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 January, 2015 Share Posted 25 January, 2015 Micky Evans scored crucial goals to keep us up. We need a striker who can score 3-4 crucial goals towards the end of the season to take the relief off pelle. People laughed when we first signed marsden. Turned out Stella for us. I remember Micky Evans very well. We've moved on from Micky Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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