Colinjb Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Shame. Another of the team that went on that great run gone. Thought he was pretty decent and really don't rate Cedric but if Puel wasn't going to give him a chance then it's no real loss. As FF says above, how many signings are we planning to make in the last week?! Poor transfer planning really. They can't have been planning all this overhaul of the squad happening in the final week of the window can they? Considering that we have Pied and Yan Valery as back up, Cuco's transfer does make sense on a few levels. Been very impressed with Valery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Real nice guy too, apparently. Jeez we must have quite a few replacements lined up if he Jay Rod and Fonte are leaving Shame. Another of the team that went on that great run gone. Thought he was pretty decent and really don't rate Cedric but if Puel wasn't going to give him a chance then it's no real loss. As FF says above, how many signings are we planning to make in the last week?! Poor transfer planning really. They can't have been planning all this overhaul of the squad happening in the final week of the window can they? We already have signed Martina's replacement... Jeremy Pied. Pied signing knocked Martina down to 3rd choice and you don't need 3 senior right backs in your squad. If you had three senior players for every position you'd have a squad of thirty three! We also have Yan Valery coming through who looks very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Shame. Another of the team that went on that great run gone. Thought he was pretty decent and really don't rate Cedric but if Puel wasn't going to give him a chance then it's no real loss. As FF says above, how many signings are we planning to make in the last week?! Poor transfer planning really. They can't have been planning all this overhaul of the squad happening in the final week of the window can they? This can't be a surprise. It is our business model really. We win the net spend league Next season 2 or 3 from VvD, Bertrand, Forster, Hojbjerg, fonte, Long will probably be sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 We already have signed Martina's replacement... Jeremy Pied. Pied signing knocked Martina down to 3rd choice and you don't need 3 senior right backs in your squad. If you had three senior players for every position you'd have a squad of thirty three! We also have Yan Valery coming through who looks very promising. Mine was more a general comment re having to bring in a JRod replacement, potentially a Fonte replacement as well as the players we already needed up top as we are short as it stands. Wrong thread though I realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 This can't be a surprise. It is our business model really. We win the net spend league Next season 2 or 3 from VvD, Bertrand, Forster, Hojbjerg, Long will probably be sold If only you got a medal for winning the net spend league? You're right about next summer, what an incredibly depressing thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Considering that we have Pied and Yan Valery as back up, Cuco's transfer does make sense on a few levels. Been very impressed with Valery. yep, writing was on the wall when pied signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 We already have signed Martina's replacement... Jeremy Pied. Pied signing knocked Martina down to 3rd choice and you don't need 3 senior right backs in your squad. If you had three senior players for every position you'd have a squad of thirty three! We also have Yan Valery coming through who looks very promising. Martina could also play centre half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Next season 2 or 3 from VvD, Bertrand, Forster, Hojbjerg, fonte, Long will probably be sold I've bookmarked this post for next summer as like you I almost 100% expect that this will happen (but I'd take Hojbjerg out of that list). With VvD, Bertrand and Forster it's just a matter of time as at some point they WILL be sold, I think we may keep Long for a while yet. Everything about Fonte is doing my head in though, how much of it is media bulls**t ? I can see him doing a Lambert though, and going back to Portugal for the final years of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 As Duncan says Martina also plays centre half. If Fonte is leaving he would have expected been a good player to still have around. Really gutted that Martina is leaving. Really want to wish him all the best for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 I've bookmarked this post for next summer as like you I almost 100% expect that this will happen (but I'd take Hojbjerg out of that list). With VvD, Bertrand and Forster it's just a matter of time as at some point they WILL be sold, I think we may keep Long for a while yet. Everything about Fonte is doing my head in though, how much of it is media bulls**t ? I can see him doing a Lambert though, and going back to Portugal for the final years of his career. He`s premature bedwetter...loves a bit of doom forecasting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Im surprised that this is so low key with the fans. He looked a more promising player than Cedric, and perfroned welll. Once he gets fully up to speed he could be seen as a loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Strange one this,he didn't seem figure in Koemans plans while here, but is linked with joining him at Everton. We need to be strengthening our squad,if we do so why do we leave it so late? Were all over the place at the moment and its not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 he was no more than a squad filler at the time and thats all he would have been ths season. we also have pied now. least surprising departure of the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Yet there were cries of derision when we signed him. One "esteemed" poster also labelled him a pub footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Im surprised that this is so low key with the fans. He looked a more promising player than Cedric, and perfroned welll. Once he gets fully up to speed he could be seen as a loss Please tell me you're joking . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Please tell me you're joking . Neither Martina or Cedric are good enough to play in a top 10 prem side, we all wanted us to sign a decent RB this summer, it seems we've just signed another average one, but Pied looks an upgrade on these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 £2.5M here. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10550083/ronald-koeman-keen-on-southampton-right-back-cuco-martina-sky-sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Koeman must rate him.We seem to be bringing in players that have been on loan from the clubs we buy them from, why cant they make their first teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Koeman must rate him.We seem to be bringing in players that have been on loan from the clubs we buy them from, why cant they make their first teams? By that you just been Hoijberg then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 He's pretty rubbish, but as we all tend to like, he's got a bit about him. Think Pied will end up being a big step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Holijberg,Pied...To honest we haven't been that busy have we? Redmond looks ok but he's no goal scorer(11 in 112)for Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Holijberg,Pied...To honest we haven't been that busy have we? Redmond looks ok but he's no goal scorer(11 in 112)for Norwich. 1 in 2 for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Shame. Another of the team that went on that great run gone. Thought he was pretty decent and really don't rate Cedric but if Puel wasn't going to give him a chance then it's no real loss. As FF says above, how many signings are we planning to make in the last week?! Poor transfer planning really. They can't have been planning all this overhaul of the squad happening in the final week of the window can they? Dreadful transfer planning. Why is Les is keen to see the better Saints players leave before signing improvements? And it's short term if it is based on Puel's experimental tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Koeman's pursuit of Martina says more about the state of the Everton squad than anything else. I wish him well, great goal etc - but let's not pretend we were building our defence around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Shame. Cuco is a lively wide defender who likes to get forward and create chances that lead to goals. Isn't that just what we need now? I am finding it depressing that Puel and Les, in this instance, seem to be negating the lively entertaining Saints style that I enjoy watching. Please prove me wrong on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 1 in 2 for us. 100% of our goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Everton boss Ronald Koeman is keen to be reunited with Southampton right back Cuco Martina according to Sky sources. We are are told the fee involved is £2.5m as Koeman looks to strengthen his defensive options at Goodison Park and provide cover for Seamus Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Koeman's pursuit of Martina says more about the state of the Everton squad than anything else. I wish him well, great goal etc - but let's not pretend we were building our defence around him. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Even in the current climate, for £2.5 million I'd drive him up there myself if I was Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 This is quite a coup for a club the size of Everton. Their fans must be extremely satisfied with what it is a clear statement of intent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 24 August, 2016 Share Posted 24 August, 2016 Scored more bloody goals than that dwarf Clasie last season, and was instrumental in the final winning run in; another poor decision, at least he is over 5 foot five!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 This is quite a coup for a club the size of Everton. Their fans must be extremely satisfied with what it is a clear statement of intent here. Sadly, in contrast to what is a clear statement of lack of intent here. Who's satisfied with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Sadly, in contrast to what is a clear statement of lack of intent here. Who's satisfied with that? For real? Keeping Cuco Martina is a statement of intent? As good a signing as Cuco was for a flat mil, Cedric clearly has more potential. Why are you placing so much emphasis on our second choice rightback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 We don't need 3 first team rb.Suprised Everton want him but the transfer market always throws up suprises.thanks for the goal cuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 The Cuco always follows the Erwin. This is the natural order of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMidfieldGeneral Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 I think CUCO may have to stay now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Ha Ha, so of all the posturing and all the players they were going to steal from us, they are going to get Martina. Very funny, be good if we sign Boufal as well, one of the best young attacking talents in Europe for about £5 million less than they signed Bolasie. I seriously do not get all the Cedric hate, the guy is quality and I'm pretty sure he'll only get better this year. He was still performing well and still getting stuck in last year even though two different people had taken chunks out of his head and IMO it was a bizarre decision to drop him. Martina did ok, but he's not Cedric level and we have Pied now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 I think CUCO may have to stay now Any reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Ha Ha, so of all the posturing and all the players they were going to steal from us, they are going to get Martina. Very funny, be good if we sign Boufal as well, one of the best young attacking talents in Europe for about £5 million less than they signed Bolasie. I seriously do not get all the Cedric hate, the guy is quality and I'm pretty sure he'll only get better this year. He was still performing well and still getting stuck in last year even though two different people had taken chunks out of his head and IMO it was a bizarre decision to drop him. Martina did ok, but he's not Cedric level and we have Pied now. You seem to be missing the point of this type of thread. i.e.. anyone who is here is cr@p, anyone who has gone or is rumoured to be going is a world beater and a huge loss to us ! It's all down to Les who apparently hasn't got a clue and is only interested in boosting Kat's bank balance ! Please try to keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Real nice guy too, apparently. Jeez we must have quite a few replacements lined up if he Jay Rod and Fonte are leaving ......and just perhaps .....the opportunity to see if those Academy lads can cut it in the Prem.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 In my eyes Cuco looked slightly awkward and dare I say it uncomfortable on the ball. He may have been perfectly in control and confident, but for me he never gave that impression. Defensively he didn't seem to do too much wrong though and that is after all what he's employed for, but fullbacks have to do more than hold an end up these days. Overall he was OK, but not exactly inspiring and far from the best we can do. It's the richest league in the world. We shouldn't need to accept `OK'. If they are not a great prospect or top notch already why are they at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Cuco was Koeman's " Jeremy Pied". The type of player that a new manager knows CDAJFU ...when needed. When he was needed last season - he did OK. Some of those people who thought he was a " strange buy " were pleasantly surprised, and few will forget his Goal of the Season - even if it was a mis-hit fluke of a shot. Better he can be appreciated by the Koeman's, than he stays at SMS and becomes " another Yoshida ". (always available, but always on the bench.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Cuco was Koeman's " Jeremy Pied". The type of player that a new manager knows CDAJFU ...when needed. When he was needed last season - he did OK. Some of those people who thought he was a " strange buy " were pleasantly surprised, and few will forget his Goal of the Season - even if it was a mis-hit fluke of a shot. Better he can be appreciated by the Koeman's, than he stays at SMS and becomes " another Yoshida ". (always available, but always on the bench.) A mis-hit? Christ I know this forum likes to down play folks who are leaving but he hit that so sweetly it was unsaveable! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb1dsyAQMNk But yeah he mis-hit it *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2016 Share Posted 25 August, 2016 Cuco was Koeman's " Jeremy Pied". The type of player that a new manager knows CDAJFU ...when needed. When he was needed last season - he did OK. Some of those people who thought he was a " strange buy " were pleasantly surprised, and few will forget his Goal of the Season - even if it was a mis-hit fluke of a shot. Better he can be appreciated by the Koeman's, than he stays at SMS and becomes " another Yoshida ". (always available, but always on the bench.) I know what you mean pal - he was aiming for the corner flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2016 Share Posted 26 August, 2016 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14705769.Martina_deal_halted_after_Pied_suffers_injury/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 August, 2016 Share Posted 26 August, 2016 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14705769.Martina_deal_halted_after_Pied_suffers_injury/?ref=rss so much for a move to Everton. We might have Marina a bit longer, unless Les can dip into the Black Box once again...and come up with a better solution.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 August, 2016 Share Posted 26 August, 2016 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14705769.Martina_deal_halted_after_Pied_suffers_injury/?ref=rss Surely not another long term knee injury? Talk about bad luck at saints ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 August, 2016 Share Posted 26 August, 2016 Surely not another long term knee injury? Talk about bad luck at saints ffs I'll say a name and then duck for cover. "Calum Chambers" *ducks for cover* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 August, 2016 Share Posted 26 August, 2016 Surely not another long term knee injury? Talk about bad luck at saints ffs Amazing how many players injury themselves in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 26 August, 2016 Share Posted 26 August, 2016 Sell him and purchase a youngster to cover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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