Saint Charlie Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Maybe because he would like it to happen but notin a media spot light? After all it is a personal thing. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Totally agree. We are lucky to have a manager with some kudos in the football world which is very useful for a club like saints....one of the reasons I'm not keen on Eddie Howe. Koeman clearly has ambitions beyond saints. I have no problem with that as long as he leaves us in a better way than mopo did. Yes, luccky to have a manager of Koeman's standing and reputation, although to be honest his name and reputation has more to do with his playing days than as a manager. As for a "name" manager, Poch was not a name on arrival was he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Yes, luccky to have a manager of Koeman's standing and reputation, although to be honest his name and reputation has more to do with his playing days than as a manager. As for a "name" manager, Poch was not a name on arrival was he ? Nope but then he didn't really bring many players in (IIRC) he was given the brief to manage the likes of Danny Fox and Jos the boss who were probably just happy to be playing in the PL. The only player he brought in which was clearly his idea was Osvaldo ( and he didn't seem all that happy to be here). As a slight aside on talk****e last night someone was saying that poch needs to show he can handle the big name players before he can be consider a really good coach which I thought was interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Lets face it, we are not only a stepping stone club for players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Maybe he likes a certain kind of coffee that Les doesn't have at his office. Ron strikes me as a simple strong black kinda guy. Les more of your milky Nescafé bloke. He's obviously used to a different kind of coffeeshop; here's some places that Les might consider taking him; http://www.amsterdam-travel-guide.net/coffeeshops.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Nope but then he didn't really bring many players in (IIRC) he was given the brief to manage the likes of Danny Fox and Jos the boss who were probably just happy to be playing in the PL. The only player he brought in which was clearly his idea was Osvaldo ( and he didn't seem all that happy to be here). Didn't he bring in Lovren and Wanyama as well as Osvaldo? He didn't really need to bring many in did he? It was only after he left that we needed to bring in lots of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 He's obviously used to a different kind of coffeeshop; here's some places that Les might consider taking him; http://www.amsterdam-travel-guide.net/coffeeshops.php I live on that map and can confirm those coffee shops are more for tourists than dutch people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 (edited) Koeman wants us to stop selling players every summer: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/513485/Ronald-Koeman-ultimatum-Southampton-bosses Fair enough in many ways. Edit: This is where the quotes are from. Still very evasive on a long term future, ball firmly in Saints court and lots of "you have to be realistic" etc. Very hard to see Koeman doing more than one more year IMO. Also wonder whether Ralph might do well to tone down some of his public comments: he has a habit of exaggerating somewhat. Certainly did so when talking about Koeman's situation recently. Edited 6 May, 2016 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 Koeman wants us to stop selling players every summer: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/513485/Ronald-Koeman-ultimatum-Southampton-bosses Fair enough in many ways. Edit: This is where the quotes are from. Still very evasive on a long term future, ball firmly in Saints court and lots of "you have to be realistic" etc. Very hard to see Koeman doing more than one more year IMO. Also wonder whether Ralph might do well to tone down some of his public comments: he has a habit of exaggerating somewhat. Certainly did so when talking about Koeman's situation recently. exactly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 I'll present MOTD in my underwear if Les manages to convince Koeman to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 I would love Ron to sign a new contract for obvious reasons, but not least because can you imagine EVERY press conference having the same f*cking question about his future will ramp up if he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 I'll present MOTD in my underwear if Les manages to convince Koeman to stay. Has Les ever convinced anyone to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 Has Les ever convinced anyone to stay? Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 Has Les ever convinced anyone to stay? Kelvin Davis!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 Kelvin Davis!... Tommy Forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 Koeman wants us to stop selling players every summer: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/513485/Ronald-Koeman-ultimatum-Southampton-bosses Fair enough in many ways. Amazing how "journos" come up with sensational "ultimatum" headlines based on this (or is it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 Has Les ever convinced anyone to stay? VVD by the looks of it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 With a club like us, there's only two types of squad, either one that has good players that will always be picked apart by richer clubs, or a squad that is filled with mediocre players that will stay loyal because they aren't likely to do much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 If RK can't accept that then there's only one outcome regarding contract renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-can-guide-tottenham-7917891 Fonte: need to keep best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 7 May, 2016 Share Posted 7 May, 2016 From Guan on another thread: What i know: Ronald is perfectly happy to stay for his last contracted year, but is always hesitant about adding more, which was most evident in the middle of our bad form where the board presented him with a list of on-going concerns. Nothing has indicated he's jumping at the chance to add to his time here after that. Speculation begins: I wouldn't be surprised if the board replace him in the summer, as an outgoing manager rarely inspires great displays of player commitment. Plus we have a new direction in the works that K billy has told me about. But that's for him to comment on, not me. 3/3 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 if he gets Saints to sign our top players for 6 years, and then doesn't stay he's not going to be very poplular ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 He let both situations drag on for far too long. Look at Levy at Spurs..just got poch on a 2 year extension..without relying on a "Gentlemans f*cking word". to accept a " Gentleman's word "....you have to be working with Gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 to accept a " Gentleman's word "....you have to be working with Gentlemen. Who would you more likely trust to buy a usede car fro,m Levy or Poch*? *car description and sales particulars provided by a translator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-can-guide-tottenham-7917891 Fonte: need to keep best players How? What an absolute mug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-can-guide-tottenham-7917891 Fonte: need to keep best players Spurs also need to keep their best players and their manager. It would be surprising to see them win the league next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Spurs also need to keep their best players and their manager. It would be surprising to see them win the league next season. Spurs will not sell Kane, Dier, Toby, Vertonghen, Alli, Demebele or let Poch go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Spurs will not sell Kane, Dier, Toby, Vertonghen, Alli, Demebele or let Poch go FACT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Who would you more likely trust to buy a usede car fro,m Levy or Poch*? *car description and sales particulars provided by a translator. ......better buying one from Richard Nixon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 With a club like us, there's only two types of squad, either one that has good players that will always be picked apart by richer clubs, or a squad that is filled with mediocre players that will stay loyal because they aren't likely to do much better. Like Leicester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Like Leicester? Look, Leicester's season is a once in a generation sort of stuff... It is annoying that we (and im sure other clubs too) will always use Leicester's achievements as a benchmark, and rightly so, we should aspire for the title. But the way they have done it so was a complete fluke- everything fell in the right place for them, the injuries, the luck- no point comparing us to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Look, Leicester's season is a once in a generation sort of stuff... It is annoying that we (and im sure other clubs too) will always use Leicester's achievements as a benchmark, and rightly so, we should aspire for the title. But the way they have done it so was a complete fluke- everything fell in the right place for them, the injuries, the luck- no point comparing us to them. You can put Leicester's success down to a lot of things that might be difficult to repeat; however, the last thing it was, was a complete fluke. Teams don't outperform everyone else for 38 games and win the title at a canter by lucking out. That's a virtual contradiction in terms. But that's par for the course on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 You can put Leicester's success down to a lot of things that might be difficult to repeat; however, the last thing it was, was a complete fluke. Teams don't outperform everyone else for 38 games and win the title at a canter by lucking out. That's a virtual contradiction in terms. But that's par for the course on here. Its ability plus luck. Smaller clubs often have good teams but lack squad depth and fall away as the season progresses. Leicester have an excellent team but they have also been lucky with injuries and reduced competition from the 'top clubs'. I imagine (i havent bothered to do it) that if you totaleld up the points accumulated by the top four clubs this year it would be less than in previous seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-can-guide-tottenham-7917891 Fonte: need to keep best players Quite right Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Its ability plus luck. Smaller clubs often have good teams but lack squad depth and fall away as the season progresses. Leicester have an excellent team but they have also been lucky with injuries and reduced competition from the 'top clubs'. I imagine (i havent bothered to do it) that if you totaleld up the points accumulated by the top four clubs this year it would be less than in previous seasons. I don't disagree with that, though that characterisation falls well short of calling it a complete fluke. Whether the reduced competition from the top clubs is a blip or a trend is the most interesting question. It's worth remembering the top clubs were also largely **** the season before, though this summer is likely to see some pretty serious rearmament. As for injuries, Leicester were fortunate, though it's worth pointing out that the likes of Vardy did play through significant problems (arguably enough to keep others out of games), so the idea they had a magical clean bill of health is a tad simplistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 PL top four points total. 2009/10 316 2010/11 290 2011/12 317 2012/13 315 2013/14 331 2014/15 311 2015/16 281 with up to 18 points for grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 I don't disagree with that, though that characterisation falls well short of calling it a complete fluke. Whether the reduced competition from the top clubs is a blip or a trend is the most interesting question. It's worth remembering the top clubs were also largely **** the season before, though this summer is likely to see some pretty serious rearmament. As for injuries, Leicester were fortunate, though it's worth pointing out that the likes of Vardy did play through significant problems (arguably enough to keep others out of games), so the idea they had a magical clean bill of health is a tad simplistic. Sure. A very good team in favourable circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-can-guide-tottenham-7917891 Fonte: need to keep best players Good to see a piece by strongarm in the national press Another one in the eye to the clowns that were belittling his journalistic aspirations, calling him a Alex Crook lackey. But then again they have been getting a lot wrong recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Look, Leicester's season is a once in a generation sort of stuff... It is annoying that we (and im sure other clubs too) will always use Leicester's achievements as a benchmark, and rightly so, we should aspire for the title. But the way they have done it so was a complete fluke- everything fell in the right place for them, the injuries, the luck- no point comparing us to them. You don't win league titles by luck. You win them by being the best team over a season. My point to the original post was that Leicester are neither mediocre, or will have their side picked apart by the 'big' clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/10274640/ronald-koeman-proud-of-southampton-after-tottenham-victory Positive noises from Ron; I'm proud to be manager of Southampton Everyone wants to be part of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/10274640/ronald-koeman-proud-of-southampton-after-tottenham-victory Positive noises from Ron; I'm proud to be manager of Southampton Everyone wants to be part of this Let's hope so, it would be brilliant to buck the trend and have him at SFC for a good while, I want Saints to win something with, and for, Ronald Koeman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Spurs will not sell Kane, Dier, Toby, Vertonghen, Alli, Demebele or let Poch go Who cares if they do or if they don't? They have blown their best chance of winning the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/10274640/ronald-koeman-proud-of-southampton-after-tottenham-victory Positive noises from Ron; I'm proud to be manager of Southampton Everyone wants to be part of this Makes me think he's off.......sounds weird I know but there was something emotional and almost reflective about the way he said it. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Makes me think he's off.......sounds weird I know but there was something emotional and almost reflective about the way he said it. I hope I'm wrong. "I'm proud to be manager of Southampton. Everyone wants to be part of this" makes me more confident than "I'm not proud to be manager of Southampton. No-one wants to be part of this." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 "I'm proud to be manager of Southampton. Everyone wants to be part of this" makes me more confident than "I'm not proud to be manager of Southampton. No-one wants to be part of this." I can see both points but on reflection I would tend to feel this is more positive than negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 You don't win league titles by luck. You win them by being the best team over a season. Very true Saints never seem to be consistently good losing to Bournemouth and being awful for seven or eight weeks around Christmas cost us dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Makes me think he's off.......sounds weird I know but there was something emotional and almost reflective about the way he said it. I hope I'm wrong. ...or, given who we'd just beaten, it may have been a little poke at Pochettino who obviously wasn't proud to be here and quickly fooked off after a little wobble to the 'plan'. We're going to struggle to keep hold of him for too much longer, accepted, but what an impact he's had on this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 More likely a poke at those agitating for a move (and who possibly are largely responsible for our patch of poor performances that have cost us dear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Davis: Keep Koeman and our best players http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14478742.Davis__Let_s_finish_on_a_high____and_then_nobody_must_leave_/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Davis: Keep Koeman and our best players http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14478742.Davis__Let_s_finish_on_a_high____and_then_nobody_must_leave_/?ref=rss All these players saying no one must leave might be better off saying it in the dressing room to their team-mates than stating it in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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