Batman Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 No carroll or walcott FF, Bertrand in Townsend in Rashford in for training with the team walcott (rightly) dropped. He needs out of Arsenal ASAP The squad will be finalised on May 31st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 We have taken 3 CB's and Wilshere has made it. Wow. The former I don't mind but the latter, honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Goalkeepers: Hart, Forster, Heaton Defenders: Bertrand, Cahill, Clyne, Rose, Smalling, Stones, Walker Midfielders: Alli, Barkley, Delph, Dier, Drinkwater, Henderson, Lallana, Milner, Sterling, Townsend, Wilshere Forwards: Kane, Rashford, Rooney, Sturridge, Vardy From that lot I'd cut Wilshere, Delph and Rooney. Obviously it wont be Rooney, probably Rashford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Can't understand why they've not included Defoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 (edited) Stones, Wilshere, Delph? Jesus wept. Stones in particular has been awful ever since the Barca links. Wilshere has hardly kicked a ball all season. Predictable that woy would pick him though. On the fence about Barkley being in there as well. He's been average at best all season. The fact we have 3 CB's..I'd have to ASS-ume Smalling and/or Cahill are the starters. Edited 16 May, 2016 by Ice2Eskimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Stones, Wilshere, Delph? Jesus wept. Stones in particular has been awful ever since the Barca links. Wilshere has hardly kicked a ball all season. Predictable that woy would pick him though. On the fence about Barkley being in there as well. He's been average at best all season. The fact we have 3 CB's..I'd have to ASS-ume Smalling and Cahill are the starters.Stick Ryan Bertrand in at CB, he's better than them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Stick Ryan Bertrand in at CB, he's better than them! Maybe he really is the 4th emergency centre back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Roy..... picked 26 because there is uncertainty with a few injuries. Got a couple of extra players to see how they go in the friendlies You have 2 cup finals to happen yet disappointed welbeck is out. he did well for us in qualifying we will miss him and sad for him rashford has a chance. he has strong competition and will be interesting to see how he does but we will have a look at him he has a big future and good to include him. He will need to do exceptionally well to knock someone off their perch but this will be good for him wary about naming people in the final squad who are unfit we will have a look at wilshere and henderson in the friendlies would like to have had a few more league games pleased to see henderson play yesterday wilshere has been back a few weeks these 3 friendlies will be important for them I have enough players around incase others are not fit enough will want to tell the 23 who are picked sooner rather than later Baines has not played for england for over a year. Rose and bertrand have done well carrick has been injured on and off and had to make a decision only taking 7 defenders as wanted to take an extra midfielders Jagiekla not in, it was my choice and that is part of the job. I spoke to him personally Walcott out, it was another decision i had to make. Andros was unlucky to lose his place a while ago Andros has done well at newcastle Theo not playing at arsenal and had to make a decision we have worked hard in qualifying, we think we have picked a good squad. Lots of new players in terms of international football we have an exciting, young and energetic side. This is a positive don't want to put expectations on the tournament. Leicester won the league and who predicted that, so we will see players feel they can win every game this is a young squad, not many caps and experience compared to our counterparts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2016 (edited) it will be Rashford and 2 midfielders who will get cut (2 from Delph, Wilshere, Henderson and Drinkwater) Edited 16 May, 2016 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 I never thought I'd be so annoyed about an ex P*mpey player not getting selected in an England squad for a major tournament.. But Defoe should be there over Rashford all day. He would be a superb option off the bench in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Sign Bertrand up before Henderson starts whispering in his ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Extremely harsh on Defoe, not sure how Delph gets in but otherwise a pretty solid squad for England. Still three to be cut from this after three friendlies, and this being England there will probably be at least one injury. For my money I would have rather taken Antonio than Townsend or Delph, and Henderson and Wilshire don't deserve to be there but were always going to be included, same with Rooney. Looks like a strong first XI to get knocked out by Wales! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Sign Bertrand up before Henderson starts whispering in his ear. Why would he want to move to one of these smaller clubs who are beneath us? I'm banking on Bertie to start chatting up Lallana, Clyne and Rashford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Sign Bertrand up before Henderson starts whispering in his ear. Klopp has way more class than do that. Klopp probably has a list as long as my arm with his own players. rodgers would do it because he was an unimaginitive moron who was clueless about how to build a team. And anyway.. Lallana would be more likely to do the whispering. imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 We have taken 3 CB's and Wilshere has made it. Wow. The former I don't mind but the latter, honestly? Good call from Roy IMO, he has been excellent in the (admittedly few) games he's played for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Wilshere played 2 PL games this season. What a joke. Woy must be ****ing him or something. I can understand it if it was someone like Messi/Ronaldo. A player who is pretty much guaranteed to do something good. Feel sorry for guys like Noble who have been good all season and a lame donkey get's picked ahead of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 3 centre backs, 7 centre midfielders. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Picking Wilshire is a joke. He'll be injured and he's such a grade A t**t that this'll probably give him an even bigger ego. Not sure what Delph has done to warrant it either. Rashford surely isnt going to go ahead of Vardy and Kane (or Sturridge), or the undroppable Rooney (argh). It's a shame for Defoe, but he's not the future and would be unlikely to play much (if at all). We're pretty weak at centre back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Can't understand why they've not included Defoe.Statistically one might agree. But I think we need to move forward not backwards. Defoe (33) is not the future and we have plenty of goals with Kane, Vardy and Sturridge in the team. Defoe is simply not required in my opinion- better off having Rashford along to train with the team etc. and most likely not make the final cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Wilshere played 2 PL games this season. What a joke. Woy must be ****ing him or something. I can understand it if it was someone like Messi/Ronaldo. A player who is pretty much guaranteed to do something good. Feel sorry for guys like Noble who have been good all season and a lame donkey get's picked ahead of you. This is a squad that has been built over two years - if Wilshere was fit he was always going to be picked and having not got into the squad over the course of this season, Noble was never going to get in there now. On top of that IMO, when playing well, Wilshere is better than Noble - remember his last game for England when he was excellent and showed what he can do if on his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Lallana would be more likely to do the whispering. imho. "Ryan it's a no-brainer, you'd be briliant in the Nivea ad with me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Goalkeepers: Hart, Forster, Heaton Defenders: Bertrand, Cahill, Clyne, Rose, Smalling, Stones, Walker Midfielders: Alli, Barkley, Delph, Dier, Drinkwater, Henderson, Lallana, Milner, Sterling, Townsend, Wilshere Forwards: Kane, Rashford, Rooney, Sturridge, Vardy From that lot I'd cut Wilshere, Delph and Rooney. Obviously it wont be Rooney, probably Rashford. Rooney past it...but a shoe in Barkley..poor season and a bit one trick Townsend as above re one trick Henderson...just sh ite Wilshere....made of very fragile glass, hardly played Sterling ..been mostly crap Stones as above Delph...overrated and hardly plays Rashford is only in becuase he is at Man utd... We will win it easy.....well one or two games perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Statistically one might agree. But I think we need to move forward not backwards. Defoe (33) is not the future and we have plenty of goals with Kane, Vardy and Sturridge in the team. Defoe is simply not required in my opinion- better off having Rashford along to train with the team etc. and most likely not make the final cut. Rashford barely going to have a chance to train with the team. I heard on the radio just now that Man Utd and Liverpool players will miss the first 2 England friendlies anyway (not sure if that is correct). He would be better off playing in the Under 21 tournament this summer, than linking up with the full squad - if picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Delph Hendersen Wilshire Sterling Milner WTF Rooney I guess had to make it Much as I dislike the hammers this year surely Noble should be in I would even prefer Antonio to Sterling at least he is on form Usual Liverpool Love in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 I think it's an ok choice. Our centre backs are all sh*t so why take four? Cahill has proven time and time again that he's not good or quick enough for international football, but sadly he's still probably one of the top three centre backs we have. Let's just hope that Stones remembers what defending means before the summer and partner him with Smalling. I'd happily axe Henderson, Delph, Milner and Townsend. And I can understand that Roy wants to have a look at Wilshere before making a final decision - despite being a tw*t, we are probably a better team with him than without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 That is a more progressive England squad with fewer big team players than I've seen in years. There are of course the usual exceptions (Rooney ffs) but I think it is a relatively strong team all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 That is a more progressive England squad with fewer big team players than I've seen in years. There are of course the usual exceptions (Rooney ffs) but I think it is a relatively strong team all things considered. I think that just shows how awful the squads have been in the past more than this being particualrly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Wilshere is a better midfielder than Henderson, Milner, Dier, Drinkwater etc so if he can prove he is fit then he should be picked. If he isn't fit then he is one of the three who drops. Easy decision for Hodgson and not sure why people find it so odd (probably because they don't like Wilshere or Hodgson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 to Maybush Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 People find it odd because Woy explicitly stated when he took the England Manager position that he would pick players on Form, not Reputation. And guess what? He's shown himself to be a ***t by doing just that with Wilshire and Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Wilshere is a better midfielder than Henderson, Milner, Dier, Drinkwater etc so if he can prove he is fit then he should be picked. If he isn't fit then he is one of the three who drops. Easy decision for Hodgson and not sure why people find it so odd (probably because they don't like Wilshere or Hodgson). Wilshere is a better midfielder than Henderson, Milner, Dier, Drinkwater etc so if he can prove he is fit then he should be picked. If he isn't fit then he is one of the three who drops. Easy decision for Hodgson and not sure why people find it so odd (probably because they don't like Wilshere or Hodgson). Not at all. I believe you should be picked based on current form (over a 12 month period) rather than your name or what you have done in the past. Wilshere did very well in the qualifiers but he has not played any internationals since June of last year pretty much. In my opinion that is what has held back the team in recent years. The name is picked ahead of the performances. Rooney is another example of it. This season he has been ****. He scored 7 goals this season, compared to Defoe who has 15. Why should he be ahead of players who are performing better? Someone mentioned above Wilshere is better than Noble. He might have been 12 months ago but he isnt now. Noble had 7 goals and 4 assists these past 12 months. Wilshere had zero. England will only improve if they pick players based on performances not players who are auto picked based on what they did two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Delph Hendersen Wilshire Sterling Milner WTF Rooney I guess had to make it Much as I dislike the hammers this year surely Noble should be in I would even prefer Antonio to Sterling at least he is on form Usual Liverpool Love in If Roy ever picked that c*** then he can take the entire england team, support staff and team coach and shove it up his arris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Noble gets lots of calls because he plays for the London media pet project called West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Not at all. I believe you should be picked based on current form (over a 12 month period) rather than your name or what you have done in the past. Wilshere did very well in the qualifiers but he has not played any internationals since June of last year pretty much. In my opinion that is what has held back the team in recent years. The name is picked ahead of the performances. Rooney is another example of it. This season he has been ****. He scored 7 goals this season, compared to Defoe who has 15. Why should he be ahead of players who are performing better? Someone mentioned above Wilshere is better than Noble. He might have been 12 months ago but he isnt now. Noble had 7 goals and 4 assists these past 12 months. Wilshere had zero. England will only improve if they pick players based on performances not players who are auto picked based on what they did two years ago. England will never improve if they pick a player like Noble ahead of a player like Wilshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 England will never improve if they pick a player like Noble ahead of a player like Wilshire. Exactly. If Wilshere is bit then he is our best central midfielder (Alli is an attacking midfielder for the purpose of this comment). If Wilshere plays all three friendlies and is fit enough then he will and should start ahead of the likes of Milner, Henderson, Drinkwater. A midfield three of Wilshere, Dier and Alli just ahead is our best for a while IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Not at all. I believe you should be picked based on current form (over a 12 month period) rather than your name or what you have done in the past. Wilshere did very well in the qualifiers but he has not played any internationals since June of last year pretty much. In my opinion that is what has held back the team in recent years. The name is picked ahead of the performances. Rooney is another example of it. This season he has been ****. He scored 7 goals this season, compared to Defoe who has 15. Why should he be ahead of players who are performing better? Someone mentioned above Wilshere is better than Noble. He might have been 12 months ago but he isnt now. Noble had 7 goals and 4 assists these past 12 months. Wilshere had zero. England will only improve if they pick players based on performances not players who are auto picked based on what they did two years ago. But to pick Defoe (as an example) of someone who should go on the basis of form (and using goals as a measure for this) excludes the shape and systems of the team. Defoe is very one dimensional, he's never going to operate as a number 10, wide or drop deeper to any good effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 No major surprises in that squad to be honest. When it's cut, I expect to see Rashford, Delph and (fitness depending) Henderson/Drinkwater miss out. I'd probably go with Stones and Smalling as the CB's, Ryan LB, Clyne RB. Go with Dier Henderson/Drinkwater in the middle. Then an attacking 3 of Sterling Dele Alli, Vardy and Kane up top. I'm sure Rooney will be shoehorned in somewhere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Lovren dropped by Croatia after saying he'd only go if he was going to play. His manager said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Bit of a precious individual is Lovren. As we already knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Lovren's stance just shows ambition IMO. He shouldn't let small minds get in the way of his big dreams. Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Strange team. A lot of it is based on form and some of the players are there based on their club. Delph is a ridiculous choice, he played one 90 minute game all season. Wilshire I can understand, when he's on form for England he is good and a bit of a driving force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Extremely harsh on Defoe, not sure how Delph gets in but otherwise a pretty solid squad for England. Still three to be cut from this after three friendlies, and this being England there will probably be at least one injury. For my money I would have rather taken Antonio than Townsend or Delph, and Henderson and Wilshire don't deserve to be there but were always going to be included, same with Rooney. Looks like a strong first XI to get knocked out by Wales! Good shout! Does he qualify for England? Or Jamaica or someone? I genuinely don't know, but if he qualifies, good shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 I could see the point picking Rashford if he could partake in all 3 games but he cant , totally pointless exercise imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Your starting XI? This would be mine http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36163625?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport#england-xi-08a120532e9c55bbf072211fd87e7217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Stick Ryan Bertrand in at CB, he's better than them! Dier can play there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Blimey, no Gibbs?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2016 quite funny hearing Collymore saying Delph should get picked before drinkwater because he has trained with silva and toure all season as well as being fresh due to only playing 8 games jesus. Only in this country would a key player from the champions get knocked for a player who played one good game nearly a year ago or when ever it was (away to switzerland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 I can't find the quote who said it above but defoe hasn't been picked probs for the same reason Baines didn't. Woy said he didn't pick Baines because he hasn't played for England for over a year. (Bertrand is better anyway). So that kind of means he couldn't put defoe in, he'd have been torn apart if he did. Still stands to reason I'd have put Defoe in over Rooney all day long. Hodgson just doesn't have the balls to drop Rooney. No idea why either. But there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Statistically one might agree. But I think we need to move forward not backwards. Defoe (33) is not the future and we have plenty of goals with Kane, Vardy and Sturridge in the team. Defoe is simply not required in my opinion- better off having Rashford along to train with the team etc. and most likely not make the final cut. Why do people keep harping on about "the future"??????? Whats wrong with "the present"? Defoe is absolutely on fire and deserves a call up. Wilshere? Henderson? Delph ffs??????!!! Roy should be sacked now while there is still time to save some dignity. My prediction with that squad: 3 defeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 England will never improve if they pick a player like Noble ahead of a player like Wilshire. Or Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 May, 2016 Share Posted 16 May, 2016 Why do people keep harping on about "the future"??????? Whats wrong with "the present"? Defoe is absolutely on fire and deserves a call up. Wilshere? Henderson? Delph ffs??????!!! Roy should be sacked now while there is still time to save some dignity. My prediction with that squad: 3 defeats The future is just the same people moaning about players that haven't had enough sh it games for England yet. Dele Alli and Eric Dier and the rest are just the players people will be saying "why oh why oh why do we persist in playing him...we need to get rid of him and bring some of the youngsters through" in about five years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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