Saint IQ Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Did he? If thats the case we should approach him if he is a free agent. I like him, stumbling block would be his English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 So much for Koeman being a man of integrity and all that A massive **** like the rest that we held him higher than Is he gone them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I like him, stumbling block would be his English Yeah, that is the main potential downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Gareth Soutgate anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 (edited) Look forward to speculating all weekend. The words works and spanner spring to mind. Probably means: sign the new contract, see out the old one or resign. We won't release you. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Edited 3 June, 2016 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Gareth Soutgate anyone? There's only one man for the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3491311/Jorge-Sampaoli-new-Chelsea-boss-needed-time-improve-English.html Was in the frame for Chelsea but English not too good.... Everyone on here loves a South American with dodgey English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Gareth Soutgate anyone? He has got a good beard. When did we last have a manager with a tidy beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Massive no to Howe. Top 6 PL and group stage Europa,we should be looking a lot further than Bournemouth for a manager. surely with what we can offer and the infrastructure we have we are looking at some of Europes top boys? Why is it that in this country we say no to Howe? If Howe actually had some fancy Spanish name I bet you some wouldn't rule out the idea... Valencia took Rafa Benitez in 2001 after he got them promoted from second tier in Spanish football. Howe shouldn't be ruled out, and if Ron was to go I would not be disappointed over Howe- a risk yes, but could be worth it. BUT... we should have respect over the way we go about things, if we were to say, take Howe, it shouldn't be taking too much advantage of Bmouth, and certainly shouldn't be fed through the press to put pressure on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 SSN - live to Goodison for an update. Why do I pay so much regurgitated crap As someone has said before surely there is a competition question with Sky Bet ... You can almost feel Giggs to Southampton as there next headline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I prefer a summer freak-out in the odd years. Like next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Or we've played a great hand to get rid of him making sure the blame is all on him disguising our true intentions to get rid of him as alluded to before. Les was hardly gushing of Ronald come end of the season and was very supportive of the work Poch had done whilst here. I'd suggest that this might turn out better than expected for Les and co. Think this is more likely for Koeman to risk his reputation the clubs offer and way forward and Koemans must be miles apart. Too many coincidences. Also, if we lose Koeman the implications in terms of losing our best players are huge. Won't get into a bidding war? Offer him 4 million ffs. Show ambition as the board say they want champs league. If they don't sell to someone who wants to take us further as we are in fab position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 So, if Everton haven't been given permission to speak to Ron, are we pushing him down the "quit" route, if he becomes determined to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If we can't match his ambition or wages then something seriously bad is going on. What concerns me more are the players he signed and how they will handle him going. I bet VVD would be ****ed after signing a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If koeman is gone I'd have Gary Neville. The man has won almost as much as Koeman, had a fantastic career and clearly has the tactical nonce to do the job. I still don't believe Koeman has gone, and if he has then it is either down purely to ridiculous money (in which case I don't blame him or the club), or it is down to tensions behind the scenes (not very hard to imagine given the snippets that leaked out this season). Either way, saints will be great next season. Stop wetting yourselves folks. And for god's sakes, the muppets that are just insulting and abusing each other on this thread are utter numpties. Arsene Wenger? This typo made me laugh lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 #wemelton but can he speak English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Gareth Soutgate anyone? JWP would probably love it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Why is it that in this country we say no to Howe? If Howe actually had some fancy Spanish name I bet you some wouldn't rule out the idea... Valencia took Rafa Benitez in 2001 after he got them promoted from second tier in Spanish football. Howe shouldn't be ruled out, and if Ron was to go I would not be disappointed over Howe- a risk yes, but could be worth it. BUT... we should have respect over the way we go about things, if we were to say, take Howe, it shouldn't be taking too much advantage of Bmouth, and certainly shouldn't be fed through the press to put pressure on the situation. Good points. But would Howe actually want to come here? I don't see him leaving them myself, certainly not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If we can't match his ambition or wages then something seriously bad is going on. What concerns me more are the players he signed and how they will handle him going. I bet VVD would be ****ed after signing a new deal. Maybe the news deals were a simple way of putting more protection around some assets after it became apparent to the Board the Koeman was going to go or at least was thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 so we force him to break his contract and then he is liable to mitigate our increased cost for next season in bringing in a more expensive replacement? what's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 F**k, lets just get this done either way and move on. Serious doubts about our ambition and Uncle Les's vision ability to sell the club considering the last 3 summers If we are not careful, what with 6 Europe League games distracting us and f**k knows what collateral damage in the transfer market resulting from this, we could be facing relegation next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 What are everton on? They seem to genuinely believe they are on course to be the next Man City mega-bankrolled club. They are comparing the "supposed'' Koeman appointment with that of Hughes appointment at City at the beginning. It's all about making baby steps until they can get the mega managers, apparently. So, 7m a year is a baby step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I would argue that should tragedy strike and Koeman leaves, we should not be looking for an up and coming manager but one who has already been lured to a top club and failed. They will then be determined to make it work and will be less likely to leave when they succeed. A bit like our recruitment of Bertrand and Romeu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Big no for Howe. He seems a nice guy dont get me wrong but I am sure we can do better then someone who finished 5 points above being relegated. We were only 5 points from the CL. They only got 4 points from the last 24 on offer. And 3 of those were from Villa. They switched off and coasted the final month or so. In contrast look at Koeman. Kept us going until it was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Hope Fraser is actually committed as everton need a goalkeeper. Maybe Krul more likely. He can take Clasie as well if he wants! I know tongue in cheek and its not the thread but come on, Clasie has shown signs he can be great for us. Players in his position can often take until second season to get fully up to speed in the prem. He has had a few injury setbacks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 What are everton on? They seem to genuinely believe they are on course to be the next Man City mega-bankrolled club. They are comparing the "supposed'' Koeman appointment with that of Hughes appointment at City at the beginning. It's all about making baby steps until they can get the mega managers, apparently. So, 7m a year is a baby step? They don't appear to be considering that FFP means they can't do what City did, either. Though I'm sure they could have a go at burying enough expenditure on a new stadium that they could pay players with it without anyone noticing. Assuming they actually apply for planning permission and stuff... anyway, it's years off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Maybe the news deals were a simple way of putting more protection around some assets after it became apparent to the Board the Koeman was going to go or at least was thinking about it. Maybe. But I think if I have learnt anything in recent years contracts dont mean much. If a manager wants out he will go. If a player signs a new deal and then wants out he will go. My issue is trying to stop these managers and players wanting to go. For as good as we have done we have an horrific record of keeping hold of people. Question is why? Is it really all about money? From next season we all have a mega ton of it so it cant just be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 F**k, lets just get this done either way and move on. Serious doubts about our ambition and Uncle Les's vision ability to sell the club considering the last 3 summers If we are not careful, what with 6 Europe League games distracting us and f**k knows what collateral damage in the transfer market resulting from this, we could be facing relegation next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 SSN confirm that no talks have taken place between EFC and Koeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 F**k, lets just get this done either way and move on. Serious doubts about our ambition and Uncle Les's vision ability to sell the club considering the last 3 summers If we are not careful, what with 6 Europe League games distracting us and f**k knows what collateral damage in the transfer market resulting from this, we could be facing relegation next season. Pow! Resigning from the Europa league. It's the only thing that can help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 SSN here we go: Just the facts - Ronald returns from holiday Wednesday - Compensation not agreed and expected to be £3'000'000 - Everton still have a short list and have not spoken to Southampton officially There is genuinely no information we don't know. Purely subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I for one want this to continue for as long as possible. I am loving the knicker-twisting that posters are getting into. Haven't seen so much rumour and speculation since Jim fingered Sarah J that time after PE at Perins. Apparently Paul was going to hit him with a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I think we should go for Paul Cook if we go for a manager already based on the South Coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 SSN confirm that no talks have taken place between EFC and Koeman I'm sure that I am not alone in thinking that Everton are behaving less than honourably in all this. Even West Ham don't operate in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 SSN confirm that no talks have taken place between EFC and Koeman But I thought Sky Sources claimed this morning that Everton were in talks with Koeman? No one has a clue. Only Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 SSN confirm that no talks have taken place between EFC and Koeman Surely this cannot be true? I thought it was a done deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 (edited) If he does go he will have turned out to be a liar and Less Reed will have made himself look like an idiot again. Edited 3 June, 2016 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I'm sure that I am not alone in thinking that Everton are behaving less than honourably in all this. Even West Ham don't operate in this way. That is assuming that this stuff is coming out of Everton? Maybe it is a third party stirring things up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggy Bottom Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Guy on Facebook posted a photo of him and RK. RK told he is staying and trying to sign 2 dutch players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If he does go he will have turned out to be a liar and Less Reed will made himself look like an idiot again. Or it could just be the case that we offered him a deal, he didn't want to stay more than 1 more season. We wanted a manger committed long-term, he joins Everton with our best wishes and we go ahead and get someone with a long-term view in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If he does go he will have turned out to be a liar and Less Reed will made himself look like an idiot again. Unless they couldn't agree and Les has said that we are better off looking for a new manager for next season on. But at the moment it does look like it is all b*ll*cks so I wouldn't panic yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Someone with more art skills than me photoshop Les Reed's on to Comical Ali's body please. Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damers Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Who for, us or EFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Guy on Facebook posted a photo of him and RK. RK told he is staying and trying to sign 2 dutch players Link, source, photo etc please. Must have proof it was seen today/yesterday as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If he does go he will have turned out to be a liar and Less Reed will made himself look like an idiot again. I wouldnt call him a liar as such. He did say he doesnt want to be a project manager and be at a club who's ambition is to rebuild every season. After two years of doing that you can understand why he wouldnt want to do it again. If he goes which looks likely (Toby part 2) then I don't blame him for a second. He has done fantastic for us. If he would rather leave a top 6 club for a club in the bottom half then it shows he either buys into their ambition above ours, or he wants a lot of cash. If it is the cash then he can do one. But i think it is the ambition. Our board/owner have got themselves into a pattern of selling every summer. We might not like it but that is the truth. If lower teams start taking them from us then that is when i become worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That is assuming that this stuff is coming out of Everton? Maybe it is a third party stirring things up? Of course that is possible, but given how far it has gone, you would have thought that one party would have come out and denied it. And isn't EFC's new owner on record as saying RK is Nº1 target, or is that Chinese whispers at play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. But that's because we're a bigger club, and which ambitious manager wouldn't leave Bournemouth for us, especially when we can pay them more money...... oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Guy on Facebook posted a photo of him and RK. RK told he is staying and trying to sign 2 dutch players And yesterday a cousin from Liverpool sent me a series of excited texts swearing blind that Koeman was up there having talks at that very moment. It's all speculation and conjecture until there's an official release from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I think we should go for Paul Cook if we go for a manager already based on the South Coast And we could save a fortune in back room sport science salaries. Fry ups and bonding is all we'll need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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