Roger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 As we've seen in the last few weeks, words seemingly mean nout! Can't get excited that one of our best managers ever us leaving us tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 changed your mind quickly. the last 24 hours it was all in peoples minds. now you have come round??? he is off, isnt he. it was obvious this was on the cards given the huge amount of attention this story has gotten from various parts of the media The facts aren't in peoples minds...they're facts. It's always our thinking around them that leads to fun and games. Based on habitual thinking patterns, our tendancy for uncontrolled mind wandering (and the human ability for stimulus independent thought). Add in differing levels of stress, the physiological changes that occur in line with this (tunnel vision, lack of big-picture thibking and negativity bias). I could go on. It's generally best to focus on the reality of the moment...i.e. the facts as you know them (rather than rumours and the emotional reaction to them). As I said in the previous post......I put aside by choice to focus on the factual element, and chose to step into the imaginary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I think it is way too early to bash Koeman in regards to it being about money. It can be for a lot of other reasons. I.e He doesnt want to be here after next season and has been told to go now. He has been told players have to go and wants out, been told he cant sign the players he wants. The terms of the new contract were not great or fitting of a top 6 manager and so on. All I have read so far is it is about money. I don't know Koeman but he doesnt strike me as a money grabber. He seems an honest guy who wants to have a succesful managerial career. He is well respected across the globe and has always honoured his contracts. Or been sacked. There is a huge gamble taking on the Everton job. They have been on a downward spiral for a few years and to stop that will be very hard. If they are throwing money at him and their goal is to become a top 4 club then they are dreaming. If the goal is a top 6 club then they need to invest in a lot of players. Maybe they will do that. But maybe they buy a lot of players and it doesnt work out. Koeman then becomes the manager on the up to being another manager who couldnt replicate what he did elsewhere after spending big. Would he risk tarnishing his career for a few extra million? Love or hate Potchetino he left us for a clearly bigger club. He has gone on to prove he is a very good manager. If Koeman fooks it up at Everton especially after spending a lot of money that will basically kill any chance he has of taking a job at one of the big clubs. Someone else will take on the Arsenal job. Holland might see him as not the right guy. Of course it can go the other way. He could actually go on to do very well for them. He has experience in this league now. He knows what is expected. The type of players you need to succeed. I just dont think he would risk all that for a few extra quid in his pocket. If he continued here and did just as good as he had next season his options would become far greater and potential to earn even more money. Why risk it all now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 hmmm AVB croaky voice annoyed me and his Spurs team didn't inspire me until Bale was on fire and probably one of the top 5 in form players in the world...Will wait and see how he does though if it is him. I've not been following his progress but I wasn't that impressed with his football at Spurs - bored me to be honest. Maybe he's a lot better now. I suppose one positive would be he isn't likely to get poached by any of the "big" clubs and would be willing to take on the project with open arms - a chance to prove himself in the prem, unfinished business and all that, without the massive expectation. Anyway, Ron's a gonna by the looks of it and another team/manager for me to wish mighty failure upon raises it's head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Very regrettable in that the info is limited or very regrettable you cant tell us yet ?? Or the situation and likely outcome are regrettable? Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The real kick in the teeth is if he persuades Everton to stump up the cash to meet VVD's release clause. Then we're really in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 TalkSport just had a Selco advert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Brilliant manager for us but no point having him here if his heart is not in it (or head if he's moving to Merseyside like Dejan!). #wemoveon. Again. Just hope it wasn't something which could have been resolved in our favour by the board & it is all about him seeking more money/having taken us as far as he can/ambition/whatever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The real kick in the teeth is if he persuades Everton to stump up the cash to meet VVD's release clause. Then we're really in trouble. We're talking 40 mill having just signed a 6 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The real kick in the teeth is if he persuades Everton to stump up the cash to meet VVD's release clause. Then we're really in trouble. Everton will be looking for better players than him mate. They don't need a stepping stone CB when they can buy the world'a best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 TalkSport just had a Selco advert. It's where the trade go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It's where the trade go. Now they have Terry the Cabbie from Romford talking about how much of a disgrace it is that Mark Noble isn't leading England out in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Materface is a skate http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/my-club/5419827/My-Club-talkSPORT-commentator-Sam-Matterface-on-Chelsea.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 He seems an honest guy who wants to have a succesful managerial career. He is well respected across the globe and has always honoured his contracts. Or been sacked. Have a look at his management record and you'll see that he doesn't always honour his contracts. I posted a quote from one of our Dutch contributors last night here it is again; "Koeman used to say that "you have to jump on the train when it comes along" in the past so he left some clubs before the ending of his contract. However, he acknowledged that this harmed his reputation and his career was a bit at a dead end before he joined Feyenoord. He stayed for three years and left with a very good feeling about getting things done. With this experience in mind he won't break his contract as easily as before but off course that might be different when he gets a mega offer from a different club and the Saints go along." It would appear that it's all aboard the Everton Express for Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 We're talking 40 mill having just signed a 6 year deal I thought it was 25 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It may well be that Koeman is prepared to stay but will not sign a new one year extension a one year extension even if he leaves at the end of next season ( as would be likely) means we would get compensation The board do not want to go into the last year without an extension as they do not want the team to play the way Man C did when they knew Pelligrini was going looks like they would prefer he went now when we would get compensated are in a good position to attract a good replacement and we have funds for the new manager to spend rather than a departing Koeman If that is the case the issue revolves entirely around whether we can get him to sign a new two year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 As we've seen in the last few weeks, words seemingly mean nout! Last few weeks? Words have meant nowt since the night of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_emu Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Everton will be looking for better players than him mate. They don't need a stepping stone CB when they can buy the world'a best. According to Micheal Owen, Stones can walk into Barcelona team..:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Cedric not impressed: @OficialCedric: Apesar das adversidades lutámos até ao fim. Hoje continuamos a preparação rumo ao Euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Cedric not impressed: @OficialCedric: Apesar das adversidades lutámos até ao fim. Hoje continuamos a preparação rumo ao Euro You speak Portuguese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_emu Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 You speak Portuguese? Relating to Portugal game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Cedric not impressed: @OficialCedric: Apesar das adversidades lutámos até ao fim. Hoje continuamos a preparação rumo ao Euro That's talking about Portugal's match against England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Saint Charlie loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Am hearing this supposed 100m war chest includes what would be raised from the Sales of Stones and Lukaku so he'll be getting about 30m net to spend !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Nice try Charlie but you can't troll us polyglots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Nice try Charlie but you can't troll us polyglots Yeah, that was sloppy for him, normally he's a lot more subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Am hearing this supposed 100m war chest includes what would be raised from the Sales of Stones and Lukaku so he'll be getting about 30m net to spend !? to be fair, significantly more than he gets with us. sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Am hearing this supposed 100m war chest includes what would be raised from the Sales of Stones and Lukaku so he'll be getting about 30m net to spend !? They have been quite specific in that it's £100m + all Lukaku money. TBF, they need to spend that much just to make top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Saint Charlie loves it. Was a joke and obviously about the Euros. There isn't anything to love and equally nothing to hate. Saints were around long before Koeman was on the scene and will do fine after he goes. Its a bit frustrating but its Saints and it wouldn't really be the same any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Cedric not impressed: @OficialCedric: Apesar das adversidades lutámos até ao fim. Hoje continuamos a preparação rumo ao Euro He's refering to Ronaldo's Champions League celebration. My 3 years of Portuguese lessons were not wasted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Was a joke and obviously about the Euros. There isn't anything to love and equally nothing to hate. Saints were around long before Koeman was on the scene and will do fine after he goes. Its a bit frustrating but its Saints and it wouldn't really be the same any other way. I think it's a nightmare tbh. Really sad for the club. But at least it gives you something to post on every two minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Yeah, that was sloppy for him, normally he's a lot more subtle. Probably used the wrong login Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Be a great programme about how saints will never get past 6th and how great Everton are. Luckily I'm off to Southampton beer festival and will miss most of tonight's shiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If/when he goes, I reckon he'll get a Callum Chambers (I think it was him) style press release... a 1 liner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If/when he goes, I reckon he'll get a Callum Chambers (I think it was him) style press release... a 1 liner Lallana and Lovren got that I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Lallana and Lovren got that I think Lallana: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/01072014-adam-lallana-joins-liverpool-1708952.aspx Lovren: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/27072014-statement-dejan-lovren-liverpool-1785945.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Have info, very limited in what i can say. Very regrettable. The second I can say more, I will. Why post at all if you cannot post anything of real use, all you have done is Stoke up the fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_emu Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Probably used the wrong login Yeah noticed Alpine has been absent of late during St Charlies meltdown.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Why post at all if you cannot post anything of real use, all you have done is Stoke up the fire Hmm, is that a little ITK Mark Hughes hint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Why post at all if you cannot post anything of real use, all you have done is Stoke up the fire Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Cedric not impressed: @OficialCedric: Apesar das adversidades lutámos até ao fim. Hoje continuamos a preparação rumo ao Euro Sorry Charlie but you are a prize tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Sorry Charlie but you are a prize tool For making a joke that anyone with a few braincells would spot? Lighten up! FYI once you admit to yourself he is going despite it not being on the OS it will make it easier. His loss, frustrating yes but we move on like always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Hmm, is that a little ITK Mark Hughes hint? Would be end of world. Official Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Hmm, is that a little ITK Mark Hughes hint? Oh please god no!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 to be fair, significantly more than he gets with us. sadly Hopefully you will go to the blue bin dipper's too and then you can tell them they are wonderful instead of bangin on and on to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Probably used the wrong login Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Ok I concur.. They're a bunch of c()nts [http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/koeman-should-sack-southampton-come-11422790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 (edited) For making a joke that anyone with a few braincells would spot? Lighten up! FYI once you admit to yourself he is going despite it not being on the OS it will make it easier. His loss, frustrating yes but we move on like always. Do us a favour an STFU for a while or at least go and bore the t it's off people elsewhere. You are about as funny as a broken leg If he goes he goes, it will be a shame but carry on, but your cretinous posting of all this speculation tells me you need to get a life We will know either way sooner or later Edited 3 June, 2016 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The [few] comments are revealing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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