Colinjb Posted 4 July, 2016 Share Posted 4 July, 2016 Liverpool Echo are speculating that Everton are interested in Pelle but baulking at the £20m price tag Saints have put on him Baulking at 20m? Surely not what an ambitious club like Everton should be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 July, 2016 Share Posted 4 July, 2016 Liverpool Echo are speculating that Everton are interested in Pelle but baulking at the £20m price tag Saints have put on him 20 million for a 31 year old with a year on his contract? They let Victor go for 12 million but the club want 20 million for Pelle? Either that's a special Everton price or the club know there are other interested parties who will cough up closer to that price would be kind of amusing if we sold Pelle for more than we sold Victor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 July, 2016 Share Posted 4 July, 2016 Liverpool Echo are speculating that Everton are interested in Pelle but baulking at the £20m price tag Saints have put on him £20m for Everton £12m for everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 4 July, 2016 Share Posted 4 July, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3673958/Chelsea-weighing-12m-Italy-striker-Graziano-Pelle.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Chelsea contemplating a 12m bid if they fail to get Alvaro Morata according to the Mail. Saints want 16m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Mixed feelings, would like to see him another year in Southampton but when some idiot wants to pay 15m or more... that's a lot of cash for him and Feyenoord gets 10% and they can really use the money. Hmm, it is said Pelle wants to leave and looking at his age maybe it's better to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 I hate these summers when we seem to sell everybody but if we get 50m for Mane and Pelle and invest in some strikers who can score goals in the Winter as well as the Spring and Autumn then we will have a better season than the last 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 If we can get £16 million and upwards for him then very happy to sell him, though would prefer to see him go outside of the league. I'd go £20 million to any premiership club, £12 million to anyone else. Re-invest the money in Behrahino, or add another £10-12 and make a bid for Bony or Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Offered £150K/week at Shanghai Greenland [Daily Star] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 I feel mixed about Pelle. On one hand he has been a really good player for us, and I the Euros has looked one of the best. One the other hand if we were to get between 10-15m as has been mentioned for a player his age I think it would be too good to turn down. Assuming he does go then we clearly need another out and out striker and although I would be happy with Berahino or Benteke my preference actually is Andy Carroll. I can't see WHU selling him but he has the qualities we need, tall and powerful. Long, JRod, Austin, Tadic, Redmond plus at least one real quality attacker is a formidable set of front players. Hopefully though we get two! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Offered £150K/week at Shanghai Greenland [Daily Star] If I were him, I would take it. Shanghai is a vibrant city, and the wage will set him up for life. Remember, this £150k a week is tax free, so would be the equivalent of say £250k a week pre tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Clubs like Chelsea can afford to pay £16m for a players knowing they'll probably only get one good season out of him. We can't afford to turn down £16m for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 If I were him, I would take it. Shanghai is a vibrant city, and the wage will set him up for life. Remember, this £150k a week is tax free, so would be the equivalent of say £250k a week pre tax. It depends whether he's been told he will go to the world cup if he stays in a competitive league, he'll only be 32 and he's never been before. As a footballer that is the pinnacle, or should be. If he gets the chance to go to Chelsea on £60-£70k a week I think he'll take that instead. Or maybe he'll stay at saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 If I were him, I would take it. Shanghai is a vibrant city, and the wage will set him up for life. Remember, this £150k a week is tax free, so would be the equivalent of say £250k a week pre tax. Bizarre. Yesterday you made a couple of slightly pompous posts about how awful the money in the game was and now you think someone on £2.5m pa wont be set for life and people should leave for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Bizarre. Yesterday you made a couple of slightly pompous posts about how awful the money in the game was and now you think someone on £2.5m pa wont be set for life and people should leave for more money. Pompous - why, or is that a throw away comment? I was criticising those handing it out, not accepting it. If you read my post above carefully, it stats off "If I were him". I didn't actually pass judgement on Shanghai, but if you want it, £150k for him is ridiculous, as is them spending £46.3m on Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Pompous - why, or is that a throw away comment? I was criticising those handing it out, not accepting it. If you read my post above carefully, it stats off "If I were him". I didn't actually pass judgement on Shanghai, but if you want it, £150k for him is ridiculous, as is them spending £46.3m on Hulk. You posted this "some can prioritize life and see what is important and what is just a crock of ****". I'd say that was pompous. Then you posted this "this is why I hate football. Money, money, money. Is there nothing more to football than how much money you can spend? What a truly **** "sport" it is if that is it" Tbf thats less pompous and more hypocritical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Seems not all Chelsea fans are that enthused with the idea of Pelle... http://theprideoflondon.com/2016/07/05/chelsea-clutching-at-straws-with-graziano-pelle-pursuit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 You posted this "some can prioritize life and see what is important and what is just a crock of ****". I'd say that was pompous. When you have to worry (and I hope you don't find yourself in that position) who is going to look after your kid when you die, because he can't ever look after himself and frankly no one else will want to, it gives a different perspective on life and what is important. There, that is my greatest concern in life. Football isn't important (to me at least). Then you posted this "this is why I hate football. Money, money, money. Is there nothing more to football than how much money you can spend? What a truly **** "sport" it is if that is it" Tbf thats less pompous and more hypocritical Again, it is ignoring the difference between the giver and the taker. If you turned round to, say, Rooney aged 10 and said that he was going to be a pro football player and that he was only ever going to earn a max of £300k a year (as opposed to his weekly wage) along with every other football player, I don't think he would turn around and say that he wasn't going to get out of bed for so little, which after all is 10 times the national average. I'm not going to criticise any of the players for trying to maximise their wages, I criticise the business that throws such obscene amounts of money around. If you take on board that difference, then it isn't hypocritical. If we want Saints to survive in the league, then we too have to be part of this, and yes, there is where I face a dichotomy. My love of Saints and my dislike of football. Hypocrisy? Maybe, although not in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 When you have to worry (and I hope you don't find yourself in that position) who is going to look after your kid when you die, because he can't ever look after himself and frankly no one else will want to, it gives a different perspective on life and what is important. There, that is my greatest concern in life. Football isn't important (to me at least). Ensuring the security of your kid is of course the most important. I'd venture Pelle could do that on £2.5m pa and doesn't need to leave in order to get £7.5m pa. Uprooting your family just to get more money than you need is not "prioritizing life and see what is important and what is just a crock of ****". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 He may well not want to go. Time will tell whether Viky will want to live in Shanghai, London or Liverpool. I would go to China if I had little keeping me here, as I would find it fascinating and a wonderful experience (of course while being paid an obscene amount). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri 46m46 minutes ago They are trying for Graziano PellèTancredi Palmeri added, Conte's blues @ImBlue_16 @tancredipalmeri Tanc who will be Chelsea's next signing #AskTanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlySaint Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Was very good at the Euros (apart from the calamitous penalty), but time to sell considering there's only one year left on his contract. Cash in now straight after the Euros and bring in a replacement quickly. Whether the replacement will be target man , or a different type of striker , is dependant on what Puel wants . We will need to bring in some type of striker, my preference is a hard working striker with pace to burn , good movement , good runs and plenty of stamina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Was very good at the Euros (apart from the calamitous penalty), but time to sell considering there's only one year left on his contract. Cash in now straight after the Euros and bring in a replacement quickly. Whether the replacement will be target man , or a different type of striker , is dependant on what Puel wants . We will need to bring in some type of striker, my preference is a hard working striker with pace to burn , good movement , good runs and plenty of stamina I think most teams are looking for that kind of striker tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 5 July, 2016 Share Posted 5 July, 2016 Seems not all Chelsea fans are that enthused with the idea of Pelle...�� http://theprideoflondon.com/2016/07/05/chelsea-clutching-at-straws-with-graziano-pelle-pursuit/ I'm not surprised. I'd hardly be delighted with a striker who can't score between November and March and who's about as static as his hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Doesn't come across as someone who wants to leave us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Doesn't come across as someone who wants to leave us I think the general vibe is he doesn't want to leave but he wants a new contract and the club seem reluctant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Doesn't come across as someone who wants to leave us He doesn't want to leave - we just aren't offering him a contract. It's refreshing to seemingly have a different situation on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 He doesn't want to leave - we just aren't offering him a contract. It's refreshing to seemingly have a different situation on our hands. Has it been stated from the club that we are not offering a new contract...i may have missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 It's nuts we won't offer a extension, it reckon he will come back as different player from the euros we have seen him boss 2 of the worlds best defenders in Ramos and Pique and ttha kind of expertise will be invaluable in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Has it been stated from the club that we are not offering a new contract...i may have missed it I don't think the club is in the habit of issuing statements on not offering contracts but a couple of (alleged) ITKs have stated that this is the case (but I'm not searching them up for you because my lunch break is over ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Obviously you don't want to lose players for free but I think we have brought enough money in that you can afford to let one player see their contract out and if ever there was one then surely its Pelle? With Mane already gone it would be risky to sell your two top scorers unless you sign proven top quality replacements (which isn't usually our style). As he is well liked in the dressing room and an experienced player alongside being a regular scorer and one of the few very physical players we have then whats the incentive to sell, especially with additional games this season. Surely he is worth a one year extension offer or another good season then to leave for free. He will have them cost about £3m per season plus wages which is hardly extortionate these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 he's the ideal plan b/alternative attacking option. Big man, decent touch and can finish (when the sun shines). Take him and Wanyama out of the side and we lose don't half lose some height defensively at set pieces. Just a couple of reasons why we should be looking to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 It's nuts we won't offer a extension, it reckon he will come back as different player from the euros we have seen him boss 2 of the worlds best defenders in Ramos and Pique and ttha kind of expertise will be invaluable in Europe Perfect. He's still under contract for a year so we'll benefit from that unless someone makes a big offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 I think the general vibe is he doesn't want to leave but he wants a new contract and the club seem reluctant. I imagine that the manager will have a say in things. Who knows exactly what goes on. While we hear that RK wants him at EFC, maybe it was him who didn't want to offer a contract. If CP turns around and says he HAS to have him, then I imagine the board should/would listen. Given the cost of players at the moment, it would be to me, best to keep him even if the cash in value is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Liverpool Echo are speculating that Everton are interested in Pelle but baulking at the £20m price tag Saints have put on him If it is so then it'll be Mr Reed politely telling Mr Koeman to FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Doesn't come across as someone who wants to leave us Surprised he's back in town already. Would've expected him to be away for a couple of weeks now. Simply here to meet the new boss, sign a new contract or pick up his things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Hope he does stay, even though he was in mid winter Pelle mode when I saw him play in Toulouse. If he does stay, can we see if Everton are interested in Batman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 He goes missing for half the season but he's a decent striker for the other half and it will cost far more than an extra one or two years to replace him so it's ridiculous penny pinching from the club if we are only offering him a 1 year extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 (edited) Maybe Les is letting the new Gaffer run his eye over him with a view to a new contract? Edited 6 July, 2016 by simo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Is it telling that the club haven't re-tweeted Graziano's tweet from earlier? Normally, I would of expected them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Is it telling that the club haven't re-tweeted Graziano's tweet from earlier? Normally, I would of expected them to. I wouldn't have thought so they've followed him all through the euros on the O/S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 6 July, 2016 Share Posted 6 July, 2016 Doesn't come across as someone who wants to leave us Exactly. I want to keep him. Offer him a 3 year contract. (Jose is 32 but I would want to keep him too.) Only if he declines should we consider selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 @MirrorAnderson: Everton must work to persuade Graziano Pelle to rejoin Koeman because the striker has set his heart on a move back to Italy and Juventus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 Because some people don't understand football and don't appreciate what he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable This. He brings qualities to the team which a few on here don't seem to recognise. Even when he's not scoring, he adds so much in the way of hold-up play and outlet for other strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable Could not agree more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 The ability to chop and change and combine Long and Pelle during the second half of last season was a winning formula. I can't believe we would feck it up for ourselves. We can't gamble on J Rod being fit all season, Mane has gone, Austin is unproven as yet in our team and our system and please let's not allow Gallagher anywhere near the first team again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable Totally and wholeheartedly agree. He has always shown great passion and commitment to the club. We are always looking for heroes and club stalwarts yet people want Pelle moved on and moan about Davis and Warde Prowse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 7 July, 2016 Share Posted 7 July, 2016 I really don't understand why we are trying to force Pelle out. he has been excellent for us and is a proven commodity. We complain enough when players look to leave yet think it would be good business to force Pelle out. You can't have it both ways. I will be very sorry to see Pelle leave if indeed that happens. If he truly wants to stay why not offer him a 1 or 2 year contract extension? For sure, it is unlikely we would be unable to find a similar quality striker for the 8 million we paid. On his day he is unplayable Far ar too sensible a post. Are these allowed on here amongst the usual tosh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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