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6 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

What he’s trying to say, I think, is that the law isn’t always right. Maybe to highlight his point if he’d used a picture of Elizabeth Moss from The Handmades Tale, something that isn’t real life, he might have gotten away with it. As it is, sorry, but he hadn’t done himself any favours and for someone who I guess wants to carry on as a media personality he could find the offers dry up pretty quickly.

I'd say that is pretty obvious but it doesn't detract from the fact that he's acting like a massive weapon. Comparisons with Anne Frank on the internet are never going to do you any favours in the public eye. 

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8 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I'd say that is pretty obvious but it doesn't detract from the fact that he's acting like a massive weapon. Comparisons with Anne Frank on the internet are never going to do you any favours in the public eye. 

He’s got some serious problems when he gets online. Absolute pleasure in person, well-respected as an ex-player and rightly an SFC legend but someone around him - family, agent, ex-colleagues - has to got to be saying ‘that’s mental, totally uninformed and going to make you unemployable’ if it hadn’t already. Still a hero to me but even for me today’s post was vile taste and he needs to limit his social media time or have family/friends run and edit it for him

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10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Thinks he's too clever for his own good.

The fatal combination of supreme self-confidence combined with being pitifully as thick as mince. Trending with the word "Holocaust" is some achievement for him, probably up there with that first goal against Newcastle.

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8 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

The fatal combination of supreme self-confidence combined with being pitifully as thick as mince. Trending with the word "Holocaust" is some achievement for him, probably up there with that first goal against Newcastle.

Wonderful footballer.  Questionable decision making outside of football.

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The problem with sportsmen these days is that they are so bland and terrified about saying anything that might upset their sponsors.

Ive just read Matt’s Twitter for the first time ever.  Admittedly I didn’t see the Anne Frank tweet but he’s apologised and deleted it.  His opinion on COVID is shared by many.  I don’t see why he should be slagged off.  At least he’s got the bottle to post honestly.

Free speech anyone?

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6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

The problem with sportsmen these days is that they are so bland and terrified about saying anything that might upset their sponsors.

Ive just read Matt’s Twitter for the first time ever.  Admittedly I didn’t see the Anne Frank tweet but he’s apologised and deleted it.  His opinion on COVID is shared by many.  I don’t see why he should be slagged off.  At least he’s got the bottle to post honestly.

Free speech anyone?

What about free speech? I don't think his right to free speech has been infringed has it?

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48 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

The problem with sportsmen these days is that they are so bland and terrified about saying anything that might upset their sponsors.

Ive just read Matt’s Twitter for the first time ever.  Admittedly I didn’t see the Anne Frank tweet but he’s apologised and deleted it.  His opinion on COVID is shared by many.  I don’t see why he should be slagged off.  At least he’s got the bottle to post honestly.

Free speech anyone?

Not sure his view is shared by many ! Hes talked about bill gates and 'follow the money' that covid is all to do with a vaccine conspiracy and making money.

His latest comments are all about wearing a mask and it being some sort of 'control' by governments.

Roll back a couple of days and he affirmed the suggestion that covid cant be spread easily by asymptomatic virus carriers ! 

To get the full picture , you would need to read all the misleading misinformation hes been spreading over the last five months.

 

The internet has fuelled conspiracy theories and the gullbile lap it up.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

He’s been labelled as thick, naive and a dangerous crank because he has an alternative view on the virus.

I disagree with him, but wouldn’t think his views are less valid than mine.

The problem is, the opposing view is supported by nearly the entire scientific community, all world governements and pretty much everyone with an IQ higher than a mars bar.  His view on the other hand is supported by people who can barely spell their own name.  This tends to add weight behind whether an opinion is good or not.

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53 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Died a while back.  Snowflake generation can’t get their head around the concept. 

Says the man bawling his eyes out because some people on a football chat show might be different to last season.

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2 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

The problem is, the opposing view is supported by nearly the entire scientific community, all world governements and pretty much everyone with an IQ higher than a mars bar.  His view on the other hand is supported by people who can barely spell their own name.  This tends to add weight behind whether an opinion is good or not.

Very droll Jeremy.

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2 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

What he’s trying to say, I think, is that the law isn’t always right. Maybe to highlight his point if he’d used a picture of Elizabeth Moss from The Handmades Tale, something that isn’t real life, he might have gotten away with it. As it is, sorry, but he hadn’t done himself any favours and for someone who I guess wants to carry on as a media personality he could find the offers dry up pretty quickly.

You're probably right, it's a pretty ill thought out comparison.

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Although we live in a democracy with free speech, some opinions are better left unsaid. Le Tissier will always be one of the greats for Southampton fans but his tweets are weird to say the least and will be offensive to many people, so I suppose he isn't worth the trouble as far as Sky is concerned. If he doesn't keep his opinions to himself he may well find himself down the Job Centre. I would think Alex Scott has as good a chance as any of filling one of the three empty seats. 

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2 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Not sure his view is shared by many ! Hes talked about bill gates and 'follow the money' that covid is all to do with a vaccine conspiracy and making money.

His latest comments are all about wearing a mask and it being some sort of 'control' by governments.

Roll back a couple of days and he affirmed the suggestion that covid cant be spread easily by asymptomatic virus carriers ! 

To get the full picture , you would need to read all the misleading misinformation hes been spreading over the last five months.

 

The internet has fuelled conspiracy theories and the gullbile lap it up.

 

 

This - some of his posts are right up there with anything David Icke has come up with. 

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2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

The problem is, the opposing view is supported by nearly the entire scientific community, all world governements and pretty much everyone with an IQ higher than a mars bar.  His view on the other hand is supported by people who can barely spell their own name.  This tends to add weight behind whether an opinion is good or not.

120 countries mandate face masks

The remaining 76, of which Holland is one country, don't mandate facemasks 

Which science is right ?

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2 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Not sure his view is shared by many ! Hes talked about bill gates and 'follow the money' that covid is all to do with a vaccine conspiracy and making money.

His latest comments are all about wearing a mask and it being some sort of 'control' by governments.

Roll back a couple of days and he affirmed the suggestion that covid cant be spread easily by asymptomatic virus carriers ! 

To get the full picture , you would need to read all the misleading misinformation hes been spreading over the last five months.

 

The internet has fuelled conspiracy theories and the gullbile lap it up.

 

 

This is how I feel. I’ve just moved to China to teach having spent 14 days in one room quarantine. Le Tiss was my hero as a 10 year old kid and all the way through secondary school. Unfollowed him two weeks ago and now I’ve just heard about this today. Gutted but not surprised. Tiss likes to stick to his guns and antagonise but isn’t as bright as he thinks. 

I’ve said it before here, but I lost my dad who was in his 60s to covid in March. Totally unexpected and I’ve seen what a brutal disease it is. No goodbyes possible.
 

The polarised nation is depressing and the free speech argument doesn’t mean bollocks should get equal credibility. What happened to evaluating evidence and being scientific? China are over covid (as it stands) as everyone takes it seriously. Only cases are imported and found at the isolation stage.

The nonsense that Tiss and others spout play down the seriousness of covid meaning the prospect of getting rid of it for good are reduced. 

Please wear a mask, quarantine if you need to and respect those who grieve for those previously lost to covid and prevent unnecessary deaths in the future. Don’t you think it’s pathetic that this is a thing we have to talk about. God, I miss the simple and fun days of the 90s. Maybe my age. 

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Just now, Nolan said:

120 countries mandate face masks

The remaining 76, of which Holland is one country, don't mandate facemasks 

Which science is right ?

Whilst I'm not sure this directly responds to my point, the fact that not every country "mandates" the wearing of face masks is different to countries supporting the science that face masks reduce the spread of the disease - I think anyone who's attended a year 6 science level can figure that one out.  Have any of those 76 come out saying they disagree with the science?

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3 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

The problem with sportsmen these days is that they are so bland and terrified about saying anything that might upset their sponsors.

Ive just read Matt’s Twitter for the first time ever.  Admittedly I didn’t see the Anne Frank tweet but he’s apologised and deleted it.  His opinion on COVID is shared by many.  I don’t see why he should be slagged off.  At least he’s got the bottle to post honestly.

Free speech anyone?

https://xkcd.com/1357/

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4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Died a while back.  Snowflake generation can’t get their head around the concept. 

MLT's freedom of speech hasn't been infringed. If he lacks the courage to stand by his convictions, that's on him - not the people who used their freedom of speech to disagree with him.

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53 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You don’t say? 
 

Lacking a penis, and a white face , she’s nailed on. 
 

 

Jesus, you're obsessed. You've got issues about women and people who aren't white.

Anyway, you've stated throughout this thread women lack the credibility to speak with authority about PL football because they've not played at that level. 2 points...firstly the best show of this format is the BT European Goals Show and not one of those pundits has played at any professional level yet their insight and knowledge is beyond any PL coverage we have. Secondly, if we do succumb to the idea of women like Scott not being able to speak with authority about the mens premier league because they haven't played at their level, then to be clear your opinion on either PL football or who TV stations should pick to head their TV shows is null and void as well.

Oh and thirdly Alex Scott can do miles better than Soccer Saturday. It's not a particularly great gig anyway IMO. 

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3 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Whilst I'm not sure this directly responds to my point, the fact that not every country "mandates" the wearing of face masks is different to countries supporting the science that face masks reduce the spread of the disease - I think anyone who's attended a year 6 science level can figure that one out.  Have any of those 76 come out saying they disagree with the science?

Neither the 76 ot the 120 agree with the science as there are no controlled peer reviewed papers on it.

However Peer reviewed papers on influenza showed that face coverings made no difference.

 

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1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

Jesus, you're obsessed. You've got issues about women and people who aren't white.

Anyway, you've stated throughout this thread women lack the credibility to speak with authority about PL football because they've not played at that level. 2 points...firstly the best show of this format is the BT European Goals Show and not one of those pundits has played at any professional level yet their insight and knowledge is beyond any PL coverage we have. Secondly, if we do succumb to the idea of women like Scott not being able to speak with authority about the mens premier league because they haven't played at their level, then to be clear your opinion on either PL football or who TV stations should pick to head their TV shows is null and void as well.

Oh and thirdly Alex Scott can do miles better than Soccer Saturday. It's not a particularly great gig anyway IMO. 

Ha, ha, I had the same thought I’ve been reading his posts & thinking ‘Mmm issues with females I think’....a psychologist would have a field day with that bloke.

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12 hours ago, Nolan said:

120 countries mandate face masks

The remaining 76, of which Holland is one country, don't mandate facemasks 

Which science is right ?

It is probably very hard to prove “right”, that’s really not the point.

The point is that you’d have to be mental and an embarrassment to be associated with if you believed that the 120 countries were part of a Bill Gates eugenics / money-making conspiracy.

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12 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

Jesus, you're obsessed. You've got issues about women and people who aren't white.

Anyway, you've stated throughout this thread women lack the credibility to speak with authority about PL football because they've not played at that level. 2 points...firstly the best show of this format is the BT European Goals Show and not one of those pundits has played at any professional level yet their insight and knowledge is beyond any PL coverage we have. Secondly, if we do succumb to the idea of women like Scott not being able to speak with authority about the mens premier league because they haven't played at their level, then to be clear your opinion on either PL football or who TV stations should pick to head their TV shows is null and void as well.

Oh and thirdly Alex Scott can do miles better than Soccer Saturday. It's not a particularly great gig anyway IMO. 

Struggling to find one of your posts where you aren't derogatory towards other posters or their views. Did we hire a new mod during the site's down time?

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1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Struggling to find one of your posts where you aren't derogatory towards other posters or their views. 

You wont. He likes to sound off about equality etc then ensures he is derogatory about anyone that doesn't agree with his views which is kind of weird 😆

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1) Person says something stupid.
2) Others react with a mixture of ridicule and disdain.
3) "People have a right to think whatever, why ridicule? what about free speech?"

Thing is, reacting someones speech with your own speech calling them a fool is, in of itself, free speech. People crying that MLT is being widely attacked for having a view which is equal parts stupid and dangerous are themselves trying to silence people who have very valid reactions. Also the argument of "Others hold the same view as MLT so it isn't that bad" those people are equally stupid and equally deserving of ridicule they just don't have a platform which allows it to be done on a mass scale.

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2 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Struggling to find one of your posts where you aren't derogatory towards other posters or their views. Did we hire a new mod during the site's down time?

What is derogatory about this post? Seemed very polite and restrained considering the other guys views.

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20 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

He’s been labelled as thick, naive and a dangerous crank because he has an alternative view on the virus.

I disagree with him, but wouldn’t think his views are less valid than mine.

Its not just the virus, that was only the latest in a line of views on various topics, such as Brexit, in which he has seemingly become more and more unhinged. He even got off twitter for a while because of the effects his covid views were having, only to return and within days post the Anne Frank item. He says himself he didn't think it would cause so much uproar, the truth is he didn't think, full stop. He started off on twitter with views that were rather off the wall about Liverpool and VAR, and people accepted his reactions and views because he was an ex-footballer who legitimately had views on footballing matters, but when he started to branch off into politics and science it became rather more obvious that he was heavily influenced by conspiracy theorists, and the more he digs himself into these views, without really having the evidence to support what he is saying the more controversial and liable to ridicule he becomes. He needs to step back, get off twitter and stop trying to build himself up as an influencer. He was a great footballer and sportsman, but he is finding it difficult to find a role in later life like many do.

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14 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Its not just the virus, that was only the latest in a line of views on various topics, such as Brexit, in which he has seemingly become more and more unhinged. He even got off twitter for a while because of the effects his covid views were having, only to return and within days post the Anne Frank item. He says himself he didn't think it would cause so much uproar, the truth is he didn't think, full stop. He started off on twitter with views that were rather off the wall about Liverpool and VAR, and people accepted his reactions and views because he was an ex-footballer who legitimately had views on footballing matters, but when he started to branch off into politics and science it became rather more obvious that he was heavily influenced by conspiracy theorists, and the more he digs himself into these views, without really having the evidence to support what he is saying the more controversial and liable to ridicule he becomes. He needs to step back, get off twitter and stop trying to build himself up as an influencer. He was a great footballer and sportsman, but he is finding it difficult to find a role in later life like many do.

All very true. If he wants to continue with a role in the media then like you say he needs to get off Twitter, keep his head down and keep his opinions to family and friends. If he needs work he needs to reign himself in a bit.

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34 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

All very true. If he wants to continue with a role in the media then like you say he needs to get off Twitter, keep his head down and keep his opinions to family and friends. If he needs work he needs to reign himself in a bit.

I bet you don’t think the Crisp Salesman should keep his head down and keep his opinions to family & friends. Perhaps you should take your own advise, that way only family & friends will have to put up with your old  pony. 

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37 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

All very true. If he wants to continue with a role in the media then like you say he needs to get off Twitter, keep his head down and keep his opinions to family and friends. If he needs work he needs to reign himself in a bit.

I think the good ship media career has sailed sadly. I like Matt, he's a great bloke with a big heart. He has a point with some of his comments, but he's been suckered into the conspiracy nonsense and just gone too far with his opinions. Until yesterday I think he would have been OK after a short break, but I think he's ruined it for himself now. Shame 

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I bet you don’t think the Crisp Salesman should keep his head down and keep his opinions to family & friends. Perhaps you should take your own advise, that way only family & friends will have to put up with your old  pony. 

You really are an obnoxious Class A c**t aren’t you?

IF he wants a media career numbskull......crisp salesman don’t want to be in the public eye do they 🙄

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I bet you don’t think the Crisp Salesman should keep his head down and keep his opinions to family & friends. Perhaps you should take your own advise, that way only family & friends will have to put up with your old  pony. 

What the f*ck has Gary Lineker got to do with any of this?

 

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24 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

You really are an obnoxious Class A c**t aren’t you?

IF he wants a media career numbskull......crisp salesman don’t want to be in the public eye do they 🙄

But I’ve never seen you moan about Lineker’s tweets slagging off Brexit or offering lodgings to illegal immigrants.

Maybe it should only be ex-footballers with a different point of view to you that should stay off social media.

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17 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

But I’ve never seen you moan about Lineker’s tweets slagging off Brexit or offering lodgings to illegal immigrants.

Maybe it should only be ex-footballers with a different point of view to you that should stay off social media.

Jesus Christ....... I don’t give a fuck what Le Tissier tweets. I’m saying if he employs a brain cell and works out he wants a media career he would be better off not coming out with crank tweets. If you want a cosy career watching football and getting paid for it you have to make bloody sure you don’t alienate potential employers. 
 

Whether his point of view is different to mine or not is irrelevant. 

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1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Jesus Christ....... I don’t give a fuck what Le Tissier tweets. I’m saying if he employs a brain cell and works out he wants a media career he would be better off not coming out with crank tweets. If you want a cosy career watching football and getting paid for it you have to make bloody sure you don’t alienate potential employers. 
 

Whether his point of view is different to mine or not is irrelevant. 

Fair enough.  You are of course correct, but it is sad that public comment has to be so sanitised these days.

I think Lineker’s tweets are as ill-informed as Matty’s, but I don’t see him being vilified.  I’m not knocking anyone in particular but there is a degree of double standards.

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This one never seems to calm down. 
 

The leader of the free world is banging on about shadowy figures in dark clothes on planes controlling Biden. World is fcked in regards to what is true. 
 

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1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

 

I think Lineker’s tweets are as ill-informed as Matty’s, but I don’t see him being vilified.  I’m not knocking anyone in particular but there is a degree of double standards.

A degree? 

It’s more than one. Maybe  in light of the discussion 3, would be more appropriate. 

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