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News from Liverpool is that Saints have turned down Everton's £27m initial offer but there is indication that the club remain interested and are considering a higher offer.

I had a good source tell me that TD had bought a house to the west of Southampton but I guess that doesnt mean too much as this be used by his family or rented out as he is likely to earn more than enough at Everton to cover the cost of purchase.

 

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52 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

News from Liverpool is that Saints have turned down Everton's £27m initial offer but there is indication that the club remain interested and are considering a higher offer.

I had a good source tell me that TD had bought a house to the west of Southampton but I guess that doesnt mean too much as this be used by his family or rented out as he is likely to earn more than enough at Everton to cover the cost of purchase.

 

He did. He lives on the Waterside not far from Staplewood. 

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7 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

They aren't going to pay the amount it would take to buy him for him then to spend most of his time on the bench.

I’m surprised you haven’t pointed out they now use individual chairs, not a bench now. 

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Looks likes a second bid is likely from Everton.

It seems fairly certain that a bid of around £30m would seal the deal.

That said, it seems that Everton are also looking at Fellows from WBA to fill in their quest for a right sided attacker.

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20 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Looks likes a second bid is likely from Everton.

It seems fairly certain that a bid of around £30m would seal the deal.

That said, it seems that Everton are also looking at Fellows from WBA to fill in their quest for a right sided attacker.

Where does it say £30m is fairly certain? I'm sure I've seen everywhere that it's £40m and no less.

a £45 package will seal it, we've pretty much just dumped their £30m offer.

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1 hour ago, spyinthesky said:

Looks likes a second bid is likely from Everton.

It seems fairly certain that a bid of around £30m would seal the deal.

That said, it seems that Everton are also looking at Fellows from WBA to fill in their quest for a right sided attacker.

Daily Echo reported that Saints want "more than £40m". Who knows what they will get, but if you turn down £27m, an offer of £3m more would seem to be far from certain to be accepted.

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On 03/08/2025 at 11:23, spyinthesky said:

Looks likes a second bid is likely from Everton.

It seems fairly certain that a bid of around £30m would seal the deal.

That said, it seems that Everton are also looking at Fellows from WBA to fill in their quest for a right sided attacker.

Yes, it all points to him going there - and frankly that's not much of a loss.

Matty Fernandes on the other hand....

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6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

New stadium and they want some marquee signings. 

With all due respect, based on the majority of TYler's performances last season he will not be a marquee signing.

He needs time and patience - once Prem defenders worked out how to nullify his threat he became anonymous in games.

He should still become a real star but it wont be overnight.  I still think he'd be best served by staying at Saints but sure that won't happen

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8 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Where have Everton suddenly got some cash from? Dibling and Dewsbury Hall appear to be joining them.

Haven't they got a new ownership group now? The Friedkin Group or similar.

They aren't City levels or Chelsea levels of flush, but they can move now.

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Sounds like it's close to being done.

"In excess" could mean anything in this post, but the fee seems slightly lower than anticipated 

 

 

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Rejected, but likely to be accepted at some point shortly I'd imagine. We're at the final negotiation stages, usually played out in the media with a good few days lag. It'll only take another 4-5m up front and they'll have a deal.

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 £40M plus £5M in addition on’s will be nearer the mark and maybe a sell on clause. At that SR have got Saints a decent deal

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Meh.

He’s an exciting prospect but has hardly done much for us really so I can’t bring myself to care too much about him going.

Wasn’t interested in signing a new contract and has left once before already. Next!

 

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8 minutes ago, whelk said:

£35m + 8 m add ons from Everton rejected 

 

Just now, S-Clarke said:

Rejected, but likely to be accepted at some point shortly I'd imagine. We're at the final negotiation stages, usually played out in the media with a good few days lag. It'll only take another 4-5m up front and they'll have a deal.

Should be looking at £45+ add ons. He's a muppet / badly advised if he goes there frankly. Has the potential to be absolute top quality - but not in a struggling Moyes side that needs major investment.

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Just now, bangkoksaint said:

 £40M plus £5M in addition ones will be nearer the mark and maybe a sell on clause. At that SR have got Saints a decent deal

Yep and then surely they can spend ?

 

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22 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Haven't they got a new ownership group now? The Friedkin Group or similar.

They aren't City levels or Chelsea levels of flush, but they can move now.

They might have new owners, but they are still treading a very thin line on PSR. Their losses over recent years are ridiculous. 

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6 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

 

Should be looking at £45+ add ons. He's a muppet / badly advised if he goes there frankly. Has the potential to be absolute top quality - but not in a struggling Moyes side that needs major investment.

Where are Everton struggling? Weren't they something like sixth or seventh based on the games since Moyes went there? New ground, money to spend, manager that knows the league, I would have thought they had a good chance at the minor european placings.

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Amidst all this our good friend and skate Alex Crook is showing himself up on Twitter again. Saw the initial reports, Tweeted that Everton were hopeful of completing a deal "in excess of £35m", pretty much what the original Everton site said. And then 13 minutes later after all the reliables Tweeted it had been rejected, he then follows up with it being rejected. Absolute con artist.

On the talk of Everton and PSR, they recently sold their women's team to their parent company: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cjey097w872o, which is something we should look to do should we get promoted again.

On the price, £45m is a good fee, especially if we include a sell on. Just have to hope the new recruiters can spend it better than we did the Lavia, Livramento, JWP and Tella money.

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14 minutes ago, capitalsaint said:

Meh.

He’s an exciting prospect but has hardly done much for us really so I can’t bring myself to care too much about him going.

Wasn’t interested in signing a new contract and has left once before already. Next!

 

Exactly how I feel. He was a real threat at times last season (particularly when Martin was still here) but afterwards his performances dropped off substantially.

You could argue that it's because he was playing in the second worst Premier League team of all time, devoid of confidence and playing a style that didn't suit his game.

The sum of money being mentioned for what he's achieved in the men's game is nothing short of mind boggling. He obviously wants to leave (contract being on the table for months) and I'm in the camp of anyone who wants to leave, should.

It's going to be a long gruelling season in the Championship and we need everyone on board. Who knows how his career progresses from here, nothing is guaranteed at his age. I think the club has done well to get a fee over £40m all things considered.

As I mentioned to a friend the other day, it's mad how you can have an "okay" season in the Premier League and go from being £10m rated to £40m rated (also see Fernandes), whilst being part of a side that ended the season on 12 points. I guess that's everything that's wrong with today's game for you.

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21 minutes ago, benjii said:

My sources are telling me that Everton is very keen.

Media drivel. Farmer Saint told us he isn't going anywhere.

Back in the real world its hard to know what to think. On one hand £45m is a great return for a player without the security of a long term deal. On the other hand he is clearly a massive talent and we used to sell those to Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, not Everton. Pretty sure in a year or two he will be worth far more and they are getting a player of huge potential for a fairly modest fee by modern standards.

Most of all feel frustrated at SR for overseeing the situation that forces a sale of a player like TD (and Fernandes) to a PL also-ran. In what world did they think the likes of Taylor, Cornet, BBD, Wood, Lallana were the type of signings to give us a chance to build? 

Anyway, lets get these sales done and then bring in some quality to begin the cycle over again...

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10 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Amidst all this our good friend and skate Alex Crook is showing himself up on Twitter again. Saw the initial reports, Tweeted that Everton were hopeful of completing a deal "in excess of £35m", pretty much what the original Everton site said. And then 13 minutes later after all the reliables Tweeted it had been rejected, he then follows up with it being rejected. Absolute con artist.

On the talk of Everton and PSR, they recently sold their women's team to their parent company: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cjey097w872o, which is something we should look to do should we get promoted again.

On the price, £45m is a good fee, especially if we include a sell on. Just have to hope the new recruiters can spend it better than we did the Lavia, Livramento, JWP and Tella money.

That is the crux of the matter but past dealings by SR suggest we wont and this is driving my pessimism

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35 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

 

Should be looking at £45+ add ons. He's a muppet / badly advised if he goes there frankly. Has the potential to be absolute top quality - but not in a struggling Moyes side that needs major investment.

Tbh I think it’s a good move for him. Chance to play games in PL, if he does well the bigger teams will come in for him and we can get some cash from the sell on fee. 

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31 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

They might have new owners, but they are still treading a very thin line on PSR. Their losses over recent years are ridiculous. 

The feeling I've got with PSR over recent years, is the more you cheat the rules the better you become and get away with it. They'll probably sell off their women's team to generate income to offset it. Their stadium revenue will also fill some of the gaps.

It seems as if you abide by the rules and keep your finances in check, like us, you're held back and inevitably regress and get kicked out of the league.

If we ever get back up I couldn't care less about PSR - just go for it, spend, breach the rules. Who cares.

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9 minutes ago, malcolm waldron said:

Losing a home grown player to Everton.  How depressing......

West Ham/Everton and those sorts are the levels of clubs that will be after our players nowadays.

It illustrates just how much we've dropped off in the last 6-7 years. That's what happens under awful management and disjointed ownership, but this is our new reality. We're small fish to those lower half PL sides now and will be for some time to come.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

They’re a much bigger club than us.

They're a much Premier Leaguier team than us. If Everton had gone down instead, players would be going the other direction.

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12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

They're a much Premier Leaguier team than us. If Everton had gone down instead, players would be going the other direction.

Yep, no point people griping about 'size of club' and all that, look at Bournemouth - tiny ground, probably smaller fanbase, but they're in the Prem and if they coughed up the £45m he'd be going there.

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There is a good chance that Dibling could turn into a very decent player in the future if he can play against the ball as well as with it.
However with a potential £40m+ in the bank and with Jay Robinson turning in arguably higher levels of performances than Dibling, albeit at a year or so older, then the transfer may be the best for all concerned, provided any money released to the transfer fund will be spent on decent players.

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26 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

There is a good chance that Dibling could turn into a very decent player in the future if he can play against the ball as well as with it.
However with a potential £40m+ in the bank and with Jay Robinson turning in arguably higher levels of performances than Dibling, albeit at a year or so older, then the transfer may be the best for all concerned, provided any money released to the transfer fund will be spent on decent players.

I think whether that will happen is the major concern!!

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

They're a much Premier Leaguier team than us. If Everton had gone down instead, players would be going the other direction.

But they didn’t because they could attract a manager like Moyes as they are a bigger club than us.

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1 hour ago, malcolm waldron said:

Losing a home grown player to Everton.  How depressing......

Shows how we have fallen, we used to sell our best players to the biggest club in Liverpool

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11 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

But they didn’t because they could attract a manager like Moyes as they are a bigger club than us.

They didn't because they had much better players than us and were underperforming under Dyche, which obviously made them a much better prospect than Saints and the certainty of weekly defeats and relegation.

This whole idea of 'big clubs' is just something people argue about in the comments of Sport Bible on Facebook, it means f**k all in real world terms. Dibling isn't going to Everton because they won the 1995 FA Cup. It's PL football and money.

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3 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Shows how we have fallen, we used to sell our best players to the biggest club in Liverpool

It's not all bad. If we sold him to Liverpool, he'd probably play his whole career there. At least at Everton, if he's as good as we think he is, he'll be set for a £100m+ transfer in 4 years and we'll get our 20%.

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5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

It's not all bad. If we sold him to Liverpool, he'd probably play his whole career there. At least at Everton, if he's as good as we think he is, he'll be set for a £100m+ transfer in 4 years and we'll get our 20%.

20% of the profit, not the total fee

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4 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Shows how we have fallen, we used to sell our best players to the biggest club in Liverpool

That only happened in a couple of years I do not recall many going there prior to 2010 and since a few went to Spurs Shearer went to Blackburn one Wallace went to Leeds I think but these days we do not seem to be able to keep anybody really good to a second contract

When you got married in the 80s things were so different but the PL has not been good to SFC becuse we are are small club with a small fanbase I live in Berkshire up the M3 with an easy trip by car to St Mary's but once every couple of years I see kids wearing Saints shirts

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Would rather the 40m now than keep dibs for this season to be honest.

I believe Spors will allocate that a lot better across the team than rasmus ever could.

Also can someone make a note to not buy him back this time like from chelsea if he doesnt like it in Liverpool, no offence to the lad but 1st time ok, 2nd time would be taking the piss.

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8 minutes ago, John B said:

That only happened in a couple of years I do not recall many going there prior to 2010 and since a few went to Spurs Shearer went to Blackburn one Wallace went to Leeds I think but these days we do not seem to be able to keep anybody really good to a second contract

When you got married in the 80s things were so different but the PL has not been good to SFC becuse we are are small club with a small fanbase I live in Berkshire up the M3 with an easy trip by car to St Mary's but once every couple of years I see kids wearing Saints shirts

We definately not a massive club but we are a large provincial club. I see lots of Saints shirts when Im around and about away from Southampton, dwarfed by the massive clubs of course. It is a shame how we were in the top league for decades but never really took advantage as we were always the bridesmaids and had we won some more trophies Im sure that would have brought more fans longterm

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