Football Special Posted March 14 Posted March 14 8 hours ago, CSA96 said: "You have to sacrifice everything now. You're not shopping, you're not bowling, your diet's good. If your wife or girlfriend wants to go shopping... you can't now go to Bluewater tomorrow, walking round high-fiving and going to Costa Coffee" Mad as a box of frogs But what a job he's doing at Charlton, got them absolutely flying , in with a great chance of promotion 1
Mr Saints Posted March 14 Posted March 14 We'll likely play against him, Selles and Martin next season FFS!! 3
Football Special Posted March 14 Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Mr Saints said: We'll likely play against him, Selles and Martin next season FFS!! Mad isn't it. Fair play to them though, Jones has done what he needed to do for his career after the car crash at St Mary's, I know the failure hurt him and he was so desperate to do well, just wasn't the right fit. 4
Toussaint Posted March 14 Posted March 14 11 hours ago, CSA96 said: "You have to sacrifice everything now. You're not shopping, you're not bowling, your diet's good. If your wife or girlfriend wants to go shopping... you can't now go to Bluewater tomorrow, walking round high-fiving and going to Costa Coffee" Mad as a box of frogs I’d still rather go for a pint with him over the vain and conceited Martin. 1
Ex Lion Tamer Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) Charlton fans wanted him out at Christmas but he's changed their tactics and turned it around. He's clearly always had something about him and can get teams massively over performing at that level. But he needs to be given time and the results along with his interview style were too poor for us Edited March 14 by Ex Lion Tamer
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 14 Posted March 14 I really hope he's getting professional help. It's a high pressure job. His interviews highlight various things that show him well beyond normal triggers and stress points. There are ways of achieving what he wants from a healthier mindset. He can still be as passionate and commited. As for us, completely out of his depth. In addition, he has never learned to handle or coach players at a higher level club, or ones who've played there. It's different for him when he goes through the league, with his sides. He gets more buy in, and doesn't have the same issues. 1
SaintNewForest Posted March 15 Posted March 15 He was a twat, but I will give him some credit ... I've never known the saints fans so united and unanimous in wanting him gone, so fair play to him.
Matthew Le God Posted March 15 Posted March 15 On 14/03/2025 at 06:22, Football Special said: But what a job he's doing at Charlton, got them absolutely flying , in with a great chance of promotion On 14/03/2025 at 08:35, Mr Saints said: We'll likely play against him, Selles and Martin next season FFS!! Likely? Martin does not have a job, Jones is not in automatic spots in the league below and Selles could still be relegated out of the league.
64saint Posted March 15 Posted March 15 54 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: He was a twat, but I will give him some credit ... I've never known the saints fans so united and unanimous in wanting him gone, so fair play to him. I'm guessing you weren't around in the Branfoot era then 🙄
benjii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 On 14/03/2025 at 13:26, Toussaint said: I’d still rather go for a pint with him over the vain and conceited Martin. Nah, go with Russ and it's Minge City. 3
SaintNewForest Posted March 15 Posted March 15 58 minutes ago, 64saint said: I'm guessing you weren't around in the Branfoot era then 🙄 Long before my time that one
64saint Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: Long before my time that one Oh that was a bad time mate. The worst in my 60 years of following Saint's. He even made Russell Martin and Nathan Jones look geniuses. Don't think either of them would have dropped Le Tiss at his peak. Edited March 15 by 64saint 1
Mr Saints Posted March 15 Posted March 15 4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Likely? Martin does not have a job, Jones is not in automatic spots in the league below and Selles could still be relegated out of the league. Bore off Matty 1
Harry_SFC Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Despite his tenure here being a disaster, he's clearly a decent manager below the Premier League. 1
Football Special Posted March 15 Posted March 15 6 hours ago, 64saint said: Oh that was a bad time mate. The worst in my 60 years of following Saint's. He even made Russell Martin and Nathan Jones look geniuses. Don't think either of them would have dropped Le Tiss at his peak. Probably a debate for another day but we've had a lot worse than Branfoot in my opinion, yes his style of play and stubbornness set him against the fans, but he kept us up and took us to Wembley, certainly a better era than now 1
Football Special Posted March 15 Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: Despite his tenure here being a disaster, he's clearly a decent manager below the Premier League. Charlton won again today, I dread to think of the reaction on here if we do play and lose to Jones next season, you couldn't write a twist like that
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 15 Posted March 15 10 minutes ago, Football Special said: Charlton won again today, I dread to think of the reaction on here if we do play and lose to Jones next season, you couldn't write a twist like that Jones will be with a club he's taken up. Who knows, they may have the trajectory of Luton under his tenure there. I've no doubt he'd be pleased and feel a bit vindicated by the win too. But it won't change any of the reasons why he didn't work out with us. And it really didn't look like it was ever going to. Not a good fit for us or for him. In his case, some of the reasons were the same as those involved in it not working out as Stoke either.
Midfield_General Posted March 16 Posted March 16 Jones just needs to learn that he should not do media interviews, ever. He should send his assistant out to do them, or a coach, or a tea lady, or take the fifth - just anything to avoid opening his mouth and letting the swivel-eyed madness that passes for his thoughts spew out.
Andrew Watson Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Charlton have a chance in the final because of Matty Godden,but could not watch more than 5 minutes of the game tonight,as the football was horrendous from both sides. As for the above reaction of NJ,no words really are there. 2
qwertyell Posted May 15 Posted May 15 25 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Fucking freak I'd forgotten he was a religious loon, among other things, and it was God's will that he was pant-soilingly useless with us. 2 1
sockeye Posted May 15 Posted May 15 It's very funny (and somewhat endearing) when it's not your team. He's a good coach at that level nonetheless.
coalman Posted May 16 Posted May 16 7 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Fucking freak He needs a nice Welsh girl from the valleys to calm him down a bit. 4
Weston Super Saint Posted May 16 Posted May 16 11 minutes ago, coalman said: He needs a nice Welsh girl from the valleys to calm him down a bit. Delilah? 4
Badger Posted May 16 Posted May 16 On 13/03/2025 at 21:39, CSA96 said: "You have to sacrifice everything now. You're not shopping, you're not bowling, your diet's good. If your wife or girlfriend wants to go shopping... you can't now go to Bluewater tomorrow, walking round high-fiving and going to Costa Coffee" Mad as a box of frogs Looks like this motivational team talk has done the trick up to this point. Pleased that he’s moved on from the time spent with us, which was abysmal for everyone involved (including him). 2
Midfield_General Posted May 16 Posted May 16 9 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Fucking freak There was still 20 seconds of the game to go at that point. It would have been hilarious if Wycombe had equalised while he was doing that
Ted Bates Statue Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Not sure whether it would be better to have him promoted so we can beat his side (would like to see us play Charlton away again, it's been too long) or have him fall at the final hurdle with Orient giving glory to God as their promotion celebration. Either way, look forward to finding out whatever God's will is going to be. For Nathan Jones, it's got to be nailed on there will be some kind of bathos involved.
ItchenRob Posted May 16 Posted May 16 9 hours ago, Andrew Watson said: Charlton have a chance in the final because of Matty Godden,but could not watch more than 5 minutes of the game tonight,as the football was horrendous from both sides. As for the above reaction of NJ,no words really are there. 'Embarrassing' is a start! I was reminded a bit of the pitch invaders after our win against West Brom (when we obviously hadn't won anything at that stage)
AlexLaw76 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Bit like Ralph when he balled his eyes out beating Liverpool 1 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Badger said: Looks like this motivational team talk has done the trick up to this point. Pleased that he’s moved on from the time spent with us, which was abysmal for everyone involved (including him). From what I see of him, he's moved on, in terms of getting some success. However, he's not changed a bit. If anything, it's got worse as he's so desperate to come back. If he finds a group to buy into his style, drive them with that personality, and mould them, then you get a cohesive all-in group like he had at Luton and now Charlton. That's great for everyone to a point. But success means bringing in better quality. Players who have nothing to learn from him, and who find his unstable attitude to be undermining. That impacts the group and sends him on the spiral we, and Stoke fans, have seen. I hope, for his own sake, that he can find a way out of that. 2
Roo1976 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: From what I see of him, he's moved on, in terms of getting some success. However, he's not changed a bit. If anything, it's got worse as he's so desperate to come back. If he finds a group to buy into his style, drive them with that personality, and mould them, then you get a cohesive all-in group like he had at Luton and now Charlton. That's great for everyone to a point. But success means bringing in better quality. Players who have nothing to learn from him, and who find his unstable attitude to be undermining. That impacts the group and sends him on the spiral we, and Stoke fans, have seen. I hope, for his own sake, that he can find a way out of that. That was a shit show of hoof ball days gone by..........no control just seemingly blind panic....and our leaders thought he was the answer......................sorry what was the question?
malcolm waldron Posted May 16 Posted May 16 I blame him for much of our current woes - but then realise it's not his fault someone gave him a job he was unqualified for thus setting him (and us) up for failure. So a part of me feels pleased he's got his redemption. Someone much wiser than me on here said back in those dark days of early 2023 that he'd be the sort of manager we'd need when/if we're stuck in Championship midtable mediocrity - not fighting a PL relegation battle at that time. We'll always have the post-Brentford meltdown interview and for that I'll always be grateful..... 1
Gloucester Saint Posted May 16 Posted May 16 1 hour ago, malcolm waldron said: I blame him for much of our current woes - but then realise it's not his fault someone gave him a job he was unqualified for thus setting him (and us) up for failure. So a part of me feels pleased he's got his redemption. Someone much wiser than me on here said back in those dark days of early 2023 that he'd be the sort of manager we'd need when/if we're stuck in Championship midtable mediocrity - not fighting a PL relegation battle at that time. We'll always have the post-Brentford meltdown interview and for that I'll always be grateful..... Rasmus is the common factor in most if not all of it. Kraft walked the plank but not replacing Wilcox was him as well, and Martin’s horror summer 2024 window and refusal to change tactics a millimetre. Jones was one of the actors on stage but Rasmus was directing (the club to oblivion). 2
Midfield_General Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Fucking freak It wasn't spontaneous either. It was the last minute and there was a Sky cameraman literally stood next to him pointing a camera at him, so he was very, very aware that he was on camera at that point. He knew that if he put on a show like that then he would immediately be all over Sky and social media for the next 24h. He wanks on about the team being everything, but at that point he made a conscious decision to make it all about him. In doing so, he made himself look like a fucking twat, as usual. You've just scraped past Wycombe in a league one semi mate, not won the fucking World Cup. Everything he says and does is the absolute epitome of 'small time'. And that's why he's destined to only ever manage lower-league teams. Edited May 16 by Midfield_General 11
Ted Bates Statue Posted May 16 Posted May 16 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Bit like Ralph when he balled his eyes out beating Liverpool I don't remember Ralph checking the camera was on him while the match was still on before he started the waterworks. As I recall, the players got pissed off with Hasenhuttl because of the fist-pumping in front of the Northam as they felt he was stealing their limelight. If that behaviour upset them, I can't imagine what they thought of Nathan Bloody Jones' antics. Mind you, we won fuck all with him so there was zero credit for him to steal away from the squad. 1
beatlesaint Posted May 16 Posted May 16 That was cringeworthy, he knew full well the camera was on him and decided to make it all about him. Utter madman. When you cosider our friend L.Duckhunter gets extremely upset about Ralph sinking to his knees and wiping away a tear or two do we assume he's alright about this given his admiration of the Welsh genius ? 4
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 16 Posted May 16 19 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: I don't remember Ralph checking the camera was on him while the match was still on before he started the waterworks. As I recall, the players got pissed off with Hasenhuttl because of the fist-pumping in front of the Northam as they felt he was stealing their limelight. If that behaviour upset them, I can't imagine what they thought of Nathan Bloody Jones' antics. Mind you, we won fuck all with him so there was zero credit for him to steal away from the squad. I wonder what they thought of Russ' fist pumps after the match? This season, practically none of them have done a single thing where there's a chance of stolen limelight. So, I guess that was their way of solving that. 🙂
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 16 Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: That was cringeworthy, he knew full well the camera was on him and decided to make it all about him. Utter madman. When you cosider our friend L.Duckhunter gets extremely upset about Ralph sinking to his knees and wiping away a tear or two do we assume he's alright about this given his admiration of the Welsh genius ? I caught a little of the post match interview. He said something like "well, that looks dramatic," but the 4th official had told him it was about to end. I saw it the same way everyone else here has. He couldn't control himself for much of the rest of it (was celebrating with fans and dancing around when they scored). That extended to there as well, with full knowledge of who was around him. We'll see if prayers help in the final.
SotonianWill Posted May 16 Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, rooney said: Because she was his women. PE teacher?
bpsaint Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Hoping it’s Orient that make the Championship, got very fond memories of our last two trips there and I like Brisbane Road. Never liked the away end at Charlton and we’ve got a shite record there. Plus I was surprised to the The Antigallican pub which was a decent away fans boozer has closed.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Clive Mendonca sinking hopes for a season in the second game... https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1073181736082664&vanity=OfficialCAFC
S-Clarke Posted May 16 Posted May 16 He is a bit of a nut job, but he's tin pot/lower league, not suited to the pressure and magnifying nature of the higher level. 1
skintsaint Posted May 16 Posted May 16 51 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Clive Mendonca sinking hopes for a season in the second game... https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1073181736082664&vanity=OfficialCAFC Some classic Saints defending in that nightmare of a game. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, bpsaint said: Hoping it’s Orient that make the Championship, got very fond memories of our last two trips there and I like Brisbane Road. Never liked the away end at Charlton and we’ve got a shite record there. Plus I was surprised to the The Antigallican pub which was a decent away fans boozer has closed. The away end (Jimmy Seed Stand) is the only original part of The Valley pre-closure. Early 1980s IIRC, not the worst away end for its era but pillars are annoying viewing the game. Stewards alright whenever I’ve watched Saints there. Still repulsed 🤢 by that enormous Charlton fan taking his top last night when they scored and waving man boobs and a stomach the size of the nearby O2 Arena. Apologies in advance if you had a late supper Edited May 16 by Gloucester Saint 1
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