Give it to Ron Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 1 minute ago, Suhari said: I've heard we're looking to bring in Harry Grout when his probabtion comes up. (Look it up, kiddies!) Is he as old as Fonte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 12 minutes ago, Turkish said: Sounds like the name of a council estate pub hard man Like Rickie Lambert..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 1 minute ago, miserableoldgit said: Like Rickie Lambert..... ....aka The Water Whisperer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Livramento close to 30m Newcastle move and West Ham willing to let Downes come here to get JWP according to Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 7 minutes ago, Boris Karloff said: Livramento close to 30m Newcastle move and West Ham willing to let Downes come here to get JWP according to Guardian. If TL happened that would be good business. A very healthy profit and who knows if he’ll be the same player. As for JWP that could also be good business depending on the sums involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 I'd be disappointed to lose Livramento, but with the uncertainty regarding his fitness and the fact we already have Bree who can slot in immediately, it wouldn't be too devastating. Only worry is how much money we actually get given the Chelsea clause. Anything less than £30m would feel like a poor deal to me. Would also be happy with getting Downes and some money for JWP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 How about Downes and Ings for jwp and 10 million? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: How about Downes and Ings for jwp and 10 million? No, 20 Million, plus the pair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Article says JWP will cost at least £40M. Surely we wouldn't be getting Downes + £40M. More likely to be 25M + add-ons + Downes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Pretty disappointing if we cash in for less than £20m on Tino. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 37 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: How about Downes and Ings for jwp and 10 million? I wouldn’t really want Ings for anything other than a free High wages and his knees ? Its a risk imo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 I suspect KWP and Manning are Martin's starting FBs. One has to go and Tino raises most money. Saints are championship, this is how it works. They'll keep a few decent players but most will go. Money rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 1 minute ago, macca155 said: I suspect KWP and Manning are Martin's starting FBs. One has to go and Tino raises most money. Saints are championship, this is how it works. They'll keep a few decent players but most will go. Money rules I bet we sell Tino and kwp and sign a new rb or use Bree. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 42 minutes ago, ecurnew02 said: Article says JWP will cost at least £40M. Surely we wouldn't be getting Downes + £40M. More likely to be 25M + add-ons + Downes. I think we'll end up getting less than that TBH. Unless we can play hardball re the Rice cash burning a hole in their pocket. But apparently the West Ham lot are very scattergun and unprofessional in their financial dealings (know someone who knows) compared to most. Think Downes would be a good outcome, esp given Martin's connection. Hope the remainder cash goes on Piroe. And someone who can call themselves a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 1 hour ago, bangkoksaint said: If TL happened that would be good business. A very healthy profit and who knows if he’ll be the same player. As for JWP that could also be good business depending on the sums involved. Agreed. Decent outcome especially as his injury might recurr/make him not the player he was. Think all that Ings stuff is balls though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I bet we sell Tino and kwp and sign a new rb or use Bree. That's what scares the bejeebies out of me, that we lose Livramento & KWP, now that would be a serious blow. Most of us probably think one or the other to go but not both. Surely we can't let everyone leave? Bree is awful from what we have seen so far. A backline of Bree, Bednarek, Stephens, Manning is the stuff of nightmares. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Would like Tino to stay but agree either him or KWP has to go we cant afford 2 good right back and bree. Seems quiet on KWP front no one seems interested which is unexpected as I would prefer him to go. JWP for 30m + 5m in add ons would be ok Get Downes for 12m (West Ham paid 8m GBP according to Transfermarkt) but the question is does he cover the same position as Charles or is he a different midfielder as never seen him before or does Martin play with 2 holding midfielders normally ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke SkyWalker-Peters Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Can't see us having Ings and his £125,000 a week contract in the Championship. Especially when he has had such a poor injury record after leaving us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 4 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: That's what scares the bejeebies out of me, that we lose Livramento & KWP, now that would be a serious blow. Most of us probably think one or the other to go but not both. Surely we can't let everyone leave? Bree is awful from what we have seen so far. A backline of Bree, Bednarek, Stephens, Manning is the stuff of nightmares. Apparently if you say BBSM it standards for Big Belly Sexy Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Salisu for 20million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Sky Sports reporting we want £20m for Salisu. I'd have been happy with around what we paid (£12m~). Looks like we'll be generating some money this week, so it'll be interesting to see if we start moving to bring some players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 1 minute ago, SaintsFan86 said: Salisu for 20million Blimey. Rip their hand off if we get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 To be honest, I don’t care who we lose in this transfer window. We need a total refresh both on the pitch and in mindset. You’ve just got to trust the process. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 18 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: That's what scares the bejeebies out of me, that we lose Livramento & KWP, now that would be a serious blow. Most of us probably think one or the other to go but not both. I thought we'd lose both. I still do to be honest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 22 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: A backline of Bree, Bednarek, Stephens, Manning is the stuff of nightmares. Or, in the Championship that's a top 6 back four all day long. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Blimey. Rip their hand off if we get that. At current prices in this window £20m is nothing. He's worth £30m at least and to Monaco probably £40m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 16 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Salisu for 20million That's decent money. Pleasantly surprised by that figure, although he's a good player, so why not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 4 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Or, in the Championship that's a top 6 back four all day long. The other point with Tino is it's not actually a loss that we will really feel given that he was out for the whole of last year. Obviously would prefer to keep him but it's not the end of the world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dellman said: At current prices in this window £20m is nothing. He's worth £30m at least and to Monaco probably £40m You're insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Or, in the Championship that's a top 6 back four all day long. Some people under estimate the Championship. I remember what happened last time--relegation from Championship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Just now, Dellman said: Some people under estimate the Championship. I remember what happened last time--relegation from Championship We were a penalty shoot out away from reaching a winnable play-off final as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 29 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Apparently if you say BBSM it standards for Big Belly Sexy Man https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bbsm me to a tee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dellman said: At current prices in this window £20m is nothing. He's worth £30m at least and to Monaco probably £40m I’d say £50m-£60m. Quality International centre backs with three years premier league experience and still YHGTI are a rare breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dellman said: Some people under estimate the Championship. I remember what happened last time--relegation from Championship Except that isn't what happened last time. We finished mid table and then top 6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dellman said: Some people under estimate the Championship. I remember what happened last time--relegation from Championship Oh come on! That's ridiculous! Back then, we were run by someone who thought he knew better than everyone else and was going to take a squad full of kids with potential to … oh… oh…dear… 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Ok sorry nothing to do with us but i need to document this statement so i can revisit it in 12 months (much like my Kompany will be shit for burnley statement- that went well). Onna the new GK at Man U has some utter utter howlers in him, I think everyone is thinking he was quite sexy at Inter but I've seen him a lot for Ajax over the seasons and he has done some southampton esq howlers, i expect him to dribble around strikers far too often and get caught in possession leading to goals a lot for a goalie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: We were a penalty shoot out away from reaching a winnable play-off final as well though. Not in the first season. And we almost bankrupted the club to get there. I've said since the start of the season that if we go down, we'll be in a better position to come straight back up than we were last time. That's not to say we'll do it, just that the club is in a better position off the field (bizarrely). Last time, didn't we only spend money on one player and that was Fuller at about 1/7th of the money we sold Crouch for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 40 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: That's what scares the bejeebies out of me, that we lose Livramento & KWP, now that would be a serious blow. Most of us probably think one or the other to go but not both. Surely we can't let everyone leave? Bree is awful from what we have seen so far. A backline of Bree, Bednarek, Stephens, Manning is the stuff of nightmares. No it isn't. In The Championship that's an incredible backline (though I still don't trust Janny B). Those two full backs have been two of the best in the league in the last couple of years. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Frazer Richardson, Jos Hooiveld and Danny Fox were 75% of a top 2 back four. But yeah, top six Championship defender of the year Bree is the stuff of nightmares. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 (edited) Poor old Bree, his only crime is to have been bought by Nathan Jones, and being played irregularly in some very high up the pitch full back role, which I found really confusing. Hopefully he wins most fans over this season and becomes a valuable asset to us. Edited 21 July, 2023 by Toussaint 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Poor old Bree, his only crime is to have been bought by Nathan Jones, and be played irregularly in some very high up the pitch full back role, which I found really confusing. Hopefully he wins most fans over this season and becomes a valuable asset to us. Fair point. He's probably been tarnished a bit. Most of the team he was parachuted in to last season looked utter w*nk so deserves a fair crack next season, have to admit I found myself nodding along with the Bree is rubbish stuff. He's not as exciting as Tino but we are where we are as a club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 3 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Poor old Bree, his only crime is to have been bought by Nathan Jones, and be played irregularly in some very high up the pitch full back role, which I found really confusing. Hopefully he wins most fans over this season and becomes a valuable asset to us. I have a lot of time for bree and what he could offer us as i knew of him at luton before he came here and saw him quite a few times, he was rated one of the best right backs in the championship and i think martins style will suit him and he does have a good cross. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 8 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I have a lot of time for bree and what he could offer us as i knew of him at luton before he came here and saw him quite a few times, he was rated one of the best right backs in the championship and i think martins style will suit him and he does have a good cross. This, I do get the frustration around Tino. But you ask any club if they'd love to have Bree and KWP as there RBs, They'd be happy wth just 1. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 Not sure I believe either that we're signing downes or that we're selling livramento. Guess if the telegraph or athletic report it the story will have legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 35 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: No it isn't. In The Championship that's an incredible backline (though I still don't trust Janny B). Those two full backs have been two of the best in the league in the last couple of years. Bednarek is literally the best defender in that back line though 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 July, 2023 Share Posted 20 July, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: I wonder if the club have compared athletic stats in this pre-season after injury v before and have seen a drop somewhere ? or are they just reacting to the market Either way i like Tino and if he leaves I'm just disappointed i feel like i didnt get the full tino experience before he got injured and had high hopes for him this season as his comeback, if he does well at newcastle no doubt they will claim they developed him etc Edited 20 July, 2023 by Convict Colony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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