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ecuk268

ecuk268

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It wasn’t “fun” at all. Even the easy victories were pretty tedious, even when we banged a few in,the 28 passes between the back 4 & keeper that preceded it were draining. I’ve seen 3 promotions from the 2nd tier  & that was far and away the most boring. Even this great unbeaten run of Lego’s was boring on the whole. Contrast that with last seasons end of season run, different gravy that was.

It was a lot more fun than the season that followed.

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StrangelyBrown

StrangelyBrown

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11 hours ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

The 23/24 season under Martin,  Saints championship games produced more goals per games than any other club.

Don't you remember 5-3 Huddersfield, 4-4 Norwich, 5-0 Swansea plus getting smashed by Sunderland and Leicester by 5ers! 

I'm no Martin fan ,  an utter disaster in the Prem , way too dogmatic and egotistical, but there is a lot of revisionism on here regarding him. 

Imo the Championship season was fun and I have great memories of that season. 

I think he'd be decent at a big club like Leicester down in L1. 

 

 

Did I say all of his games were boring??? - I didn't

Most of his games were boring and that isn't revisionist - it's an opinion many people aired at the time.

He also succeeded in getting us to 4th in the championship with a top 3 squad - again many people said as much at the time.

Let's not be revisionist about it he achieved the minimum and a lot of the football was tedious, especially in the famous unbeaten run, but there were some brilliant moments too.

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Oh no Mick Mills

Oh no Mick Mills

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3 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

It was a lot more fun than the season that followed.

Exactly ...season before 23/24 , 25pts....season after 23/24, 12 points....that's tedium in my book. 

I couldn't give a shite what style we play , I just like Saints winning games personally...makes my weekend a whole lot better. 

 

 

die Mannyschaft

die Mannyschaft

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On 08/06/2026 at 08:59, hypochondriac said:

Martin will do well in league one with Leicester. They will dominate a lot of games which is when his football is more effective. He may even have a chance of performing will in the Championship if they get a bit of momentum. Longer term it fucks up the club though. The likes of THB and manning for us have taken ages to recover from what they were 'taught' under Martin. I'd never want to be go back to football like that again.

RM will do well, probably top 2. A lot of teams play this possession football now with 800 passes and relying on gaps and mistakes by opponents to get through defence. It means you dont need to find decent creative players and just consistent players in certain positions. 

Lot lot of boring football these days and in Europe plus we will see it during World Cup.  Even Burnley fans complain all season when they got promoted. 

Chez

Chez

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Now is the time for us to make a  half decent offer for Olabade Aluko and include Baz as part of the deal.

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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5 minutes ago, Chez said:

Now is the time for us to make a  half decent offer for Olabade Aluko and include Baz as part of the deal.

Throw in N.Wood as well, another RM signing.

kitch

kitch

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1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Throw in N.Wood as well, another RM signing.

He's not too bad tbf, we could do much worse for a squad-level CB

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benjii

benjii

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2 hours ago, Mustang Saint said:

Just had a quick look on the foxes forum, don't think I've ever seem a thread wanting the manager out before he's even been announced, started it a week ago 🤣 

They are idiots.

Who are they expecting?

He'll have them dominating the division. 

AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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They will finish top 2 fairly comfortably, and play some good football along the way given they will have a much better squad than about 22 other teams

Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

They will finish top 2 fairly comfortably, and play some good football along the way given they will have a much better squad than about 22 other teams

They have some top players for sure on high wages and long contracts. If he can get them onboard to play in league one or offload (but who will want them). They were a disgrace last season some of their players. Also they are in financial world of shite and the wages above do not help. I listen to the 2nd Tier podcast it is really worth a listen and they do not have much confidence in them bouncing back. But of course they will not be talking about them anymore! 

It will be a fascinating watch for sure. 👍 

AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Right, RM bingo

Love the players

They are incredibly brave

They trained like beasts in the week

I'd rather lose my way than compromise my beliefs

We need to be incredibly humble and suffer together

 

TheAlehouseBrawlers

TheAlehouseBrawlers

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I think he'll do alright there, similar to how he did for us in the promotion season. Surely he must have learnt and moved on from us and Rangers and moved on from the dull, pointless passing for the sake of it......? Even if he hasn't Leicester should have too much for L1 sides.

But you can't ignore the long unbeaten run and he got us up. You also can't ignore, despite all that, some tedious football, losing LC first round at Gillingham in a shocking performance, thrashed at Sunderland and so poor home to Leicester soon after. Superb first halves away at Swansea and Cardiff then shockers after the break. Then later in the season the home games against Hull, Millwall and Stoke were shockingly bad and the away at Blackburn and...of course...Leicester again were as bad as it got.

Maybe they should quickly ditch him if he gets them promoted.

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Badger

Badger

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2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Right, RM bingo

Love the players

They are incredibly brave

They trained like beasts in the week

I'd rather lose my way than compromise my beliefs

We need to be incredibly humble and suffer together

 

You missed:

players are “these guys”

most importantly “scar tissue”

chivvy

chivvy

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Good luck to him. He has to rebuild his reputation and by going Leicester he can do that as big fish.

He has to learn that you can't pass your way to success and sometimes it has to go direct quicker.

You can't knock him for getting us promoted. 

Great day out at wembley.

He right royally fucked up in the prem trying to play to much tippy happy  football but he wasn't given the best squad.

Think he was very naive.

But I wish him luck now.

 

 

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Badger

Badger

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8 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

Running concurrently on Foxes Talk… 

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What has Roy Cropper got to say about it ?

That’s the key thing for me. 

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gurru991

gurru991

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2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Poor Leicester 

 

No one deserves that. 

Thanks for the sympathy !    Our owner is an absolute bellend. !!  He knows the fans don’t want him but goes ahead anyway!!! It can only only end in disappointment & I’m resigned to that as long as I can avoid his interviews

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JohnnyShearer2.0

JohnnyShearer2.0

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10 hours ago, chivvy said:

Good luck to him. He has to rebuild his reputation and by going Leicester he can do that as big fish.

He has to learn that you can't pass your way to success and sometimes it has to go direct quicker.

You can't knock him for getting us promoted. 

Great day out at wembley.

He right royally fucked up in the prem trying to play to much tippy happy  football but he wasn't given the best squad.

Think he was very naive.

But I wish him luck now.

 

 

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Naive? He was a dick.

Luton performed miles better the season before Saints in the prem and their squad was considerably worse. 

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Football Special

Football Special

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9 hours ago, gurru991 said:

Thanks for the sympathy !    Our owner is an absolute bellend. !!  He knows the fans don’t want him but goes ahead anyway!!! It can only only end in disappointment & I’m resigned to that as long as I can avoid his interviews

I think he'll actually do ok for you, probably win the league 

What's the expectation around players to leave? 

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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9 hours ago, gurru991 said:

Thanks for the sympathy !    Our owner is an absolute bellend. !!  He knows the fans don’t want him but goes ahead anyway!!! It can only only end in disappointment & I’m resigned to that as long as I can avoid his interviews

I'm trying to pitch a comment to my Leicester supporting comment. I'd like to be positive, but you just don't know how it will turn out.

He will work on that scar tissue, and will have a decent team spirit. But the club will be looking to offload players, and plenty will be looking to go anyway.
You've got the talent to overcome other teams, both following and in spite of his tactics. But it depends who you have left.
He has improved the standings of clubs, although in spells and often without achieving final goal.
Against teams that set up a certain way, RussBall is great to watch. It's just all those other teams, who set up to defend or press. 
Having control of games can be nice. But the endless reset after every move, when you could be dominating is frustrating.
Getting in Will Smallbone might not look like a marquee signing, but will make a difference. 
 

Edit: And although his press conferences have no bearing on the game you've just seen, you can always ignore them. He's been like that since he was a player.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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58 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I'm trying to pitch a comment to my Leicester supporting comment. I'd like to be positive, but you just don't know how it will turn out.

He will work on that scar tissue, and will have a decent team spirit. But the club will be looking to offload players, and plenty will be looking to go anyway.
You've got the talent to overcome other teams, both following and in spite of his tactics. But it depends who you have left.
He has improved the standings of clubs, although in spells and often without achieving final goal.
Against teams that set up a certain way, RussBall is great to watch. It's just all those other teams, who set up to defend or press. 
Having control of games can be nice. But the endless reset after every move, when you could be dominating is frustrating.
Getting in Will Smallbone might not look like a marquee signing, but will make a difference. 
 

Edit: And although his press conferences have no bearing on the game you've just seen, you can always ignore them. He's been like that since he was a player.

Forget Smallbone, Bazunu is the key, such an incredibly brave player

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Secret Site Agent

Secret Site Agent

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1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Hard to tell with my eyesight,  is that a graphic or is he wearing a jumper saying RUSSELL MARTIN ? 

You think you're eyesight's bad,  I thought it was Roy Kent from Ted Lasso at first.  Had to give me head a wobble and my eyes a rub.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Forget Smallbone, Bazunu is the key, such an incredibly brave player

Didn’t he say he’d sign Baz if he wasn’t already here. 

Fuck me, it’s a no brainer, we want the useless chump out the door & Lego gets his ideal keeper in the building. 

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gurru991

gurru991

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6 hours ago, Football Special said:

I think he'll actually do ok for you, probably win the league 

What's the expectation around players to leave? 

The club are saying nothing as usual but I'm expecting a large exodus.  Jeremy Monga, our acadamy graduate is apparently going to Arsenal which is a damn shame as he good be a top player.

vectraman

vectraman

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22 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Right, RM bingo

Love the players

They are incredibly brave

They trained like beasts in the week

I'd rather lose my way than compromise my beliefs

We need to be incredibly humble and suffer together

 

“It takes a while to learn the process” 

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SuperSAINT

SuperSAINT

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

This guy makes a fortune by baiting fans, much in the same way as Adrian Durham.

Primarily he makes his money from checking social media accounts of really good reporters & then pretending he gets all that info himself.

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Chez

Chez

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they are fucked financially. They will have to sell anything that isn't nailed down...and the wages of players like Winks will be lead weights dragging them into mediocrity. Goof luck Russ.

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JohnnyShearer2.0

JohnnyShearer2.0

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56 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Primarily he makes his money from checking social media accounts of really good reporters & then pretending he gets all that info himself.

"My sources tell me"

There has to be story here about how half these people are making up shit all the time. Or maybe not and its all for the clicks.

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Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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18 hours ago, trousers said:

The oracle has spoken...

 

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Loving the replies.... 😂

https://x.com/i/status/2066759238269968786

 

‘Not perfect at Rangers’ = sacked after 123 days with a 29% win percentage, by far the lowest ever in the club’s 154 year history.

Lovely bit of trolling. It’s like saying the Titanic’s maiden voyage to New York ‘had a couple of hiccups’.

 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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11 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

‘Not perfect at Rangers’ 

Sacked after 123 days with a 29% win percentage - by far the lowest ever in the club’s 154 year history

Lovely bit of trolling

It’s like saying the Titanic’s maiden voyage to New York ‘had a couple of hiccups’

 

I was just reminded that I think there was just the one league defeat in his stats, for Rangers. In Martin's mind that's a plus for his system. It just needs the players to buy into it more and the various other things he came out with. 

He gave us a record unbeaten run, which is an achievement.

However, Rangers fans expect wins and not draws considering their history and investment. Our unbeaten run, contained enough draws, that we didn't really make up ground on the automatic places, with the resources we had.

It's always nearly working, as reality gets in the way.

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Football Special

Football Special

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10 hours ago, Chez said:

they are fucked financially. They will have to sell anything that isn't nailed down...and the wages of players like Winks will be lead weights dragging them into mediocrity. Goof luck Russ.

I'm sure but one more year of parachute payments might help delay the financial doom ?

Saint Mikey

Saint Mikey

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17 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I'm sure but one more year of parachute payments might help delay the financial doom ?

There were reports that they have already spent those. Leveraged through a lending company like McQuarie or the like. Must have been on a punt for an instant return to the Prem. So, they do get the parachute payment but they have to give it straight to the lender. This has come from Kieran McKenna, a decent source, but I haven't heard it for a while, so wondering if it is actually true.

Turkish

Turkish

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On 15/06/2026 at 22:00, AlexLaw76 said:

Right, RM bingo

Love the players

They are incredibly brave

They trained like beasts in the week

I'd rather lose my way than compromise my beliefs

We need to be incredibly humble and suffer together

 

 

On 15/06/2026 at 22:04, Badger said:

You missed:

players are “these guys”

most importantly “scar tissue”

The players have anxiety

I could feel they were anxious

So much love for them

So proud

When we lose lets lose in a way we can be proud

In many ways the performance was excellent

 

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