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31 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Citeh posted a Farewell Interview With Wilcox yesterday at 4pm... We may have some staff soon.

Wilcox: I’m so proud of what we’ve achieved together (mancity.com)

 

Wilcox: "It doesn't matter if we lose, doing the right thing is more important"

Sounds like he'll fit in really well here then.... :)

 

p.s. in all seriousness, he comes across really well

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1 hour ago, trousers said:

Wilcox: "It doesn't matter if we lose, doing the right thing is more important"

Sounds like he'll fit in really well here then.... :)

 

p.s. in all seriousness, he comes across really well

Tbh, Russell is the same.. Aslong as he sees his team plying the right way then it isn't about losing either. Haha

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It’s a shame Adam Blackmore didn’t ask Parsons about a new DoF. There’s going to be a lot of comings and goings this summer either way and who is going to be in charge. 

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14 hours ago, Long Shot said:

It’s a shame Adam Blackmore didn’t ask Parsons about a new DoF. There’s going to be a lot of comings and goings this summer either way and who is going to be in charge. 

Funnily enough, @Fitzhugh Fella posted a very similar thought on Twitter at about the same time earlier today - two minds and all that.

I'm sure Blackmore will have a chance to ask about that once the season is over.

 

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3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Got to be honest, I’m not bothered whether we have a DOF or not.  As long as it doesn’t mean that total fraud Rasmus having more influence then I’m ok with it.

Don't the two scenarios go hand-in-hand? i.e. if there's no DoF then it's inevitable that Rasmus would have to fill the void...? 

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Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

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1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Got to be honest, I’m not bothered whether we have a DOF or not.  As long as it doesn’t mean that total fraud Rasmus having more influence then I’m ok with it.

i find the DOF of football a bit of an odd one. It seems they want to dictate the style of play, pick the manager, sign the players take the credit when it goes well but not really carry the can when it goes wrong. People raved about Wilcox and he spoke well but before joining us he'd only ever run youth teams and now he's trying to dictate how a club like Man United play. All very odd.

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36 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

He's the Mike from the Young Ones of the group.

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1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

I reckon it's largely to do with the fact that he was a long-time admirer of a certain chippy Welsh bloke and was utterly convinced he was the right guy to take us to the next level.

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1 hour ago, Scummer said:

Isn't Mowbray in charge of recruitment?

My understanding is that he was/is.

Although his recommendations would perhaps have to be sanctioned by a DoF. 

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2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

the last person i heard use the word repromoted was Rupert Lowe. Anything to tell us Gio?

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Not too bothered if we don't bring in a DoF. Would hopefully avoid another Shea Charles situation where we spend 50% of the transfer budget on a player the manager doesn't want to play/trust. Hasenhuttl also got lumbered with a number of misfits in that final summer and then the pointless Orsic signing last January. 

Get the manager with the recruitment team to work through a handful of identified players and then sign the one best fitted.

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2 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Not too bothered if we don't bring in a DoF. Would hopefully avoid another Shea Charles situation where we spend 50% of the transfer budget on a player the manager doesn't want to play/trust. Hasenhuttl also got lumbered with a number of misfits in that final summer and then the pointless Orsic signing last January. 

Get the manager with the recruitment team to work through a handful of identified players and then sign the one best fitted.

The exact number was 11 if i remember properly

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8 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

I suppose his overseeing of two abysmal managerial appointments, squandering £100m+ on ridiculous transfer fees, being relegated, his haughty air and his self-congratulating Gold Mine effect self-loving egotism haven't seen me particularly warm to him. Each to their own though.

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22 minutes ago, benali-shorts said:

I suppose his overseeing of two abysmal managerial appointments, squandering £100m+ on ridiculous transfer fees, being relegated, his haughty air and his self-congratulating Gold Mine effect self-loving egotism haven't seen me particularly warm to him. Each to their own though.

Plus you only have to go to his web page to see how much up his own arse he is. 

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8 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

How's that whole psychology study thing going? Not great I guess?

Let's try one quote and see if you can work it out?

"If it ain't broke, break it".

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11 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

Especially as Rasmus has nothing to do with recruitment. He’s in charge of building up SRs club roster. Never mind he makes a great scapegoat for fans too stupid enough to understand the set up.

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11 hours ago, Turkish said:

i find the DOF of football a bit of an odd one. It seems they want to dictate the style of play, pick the manager, sign the players take the credit when it goes well but not really carry the can when it goes wrong. People raved about Wilcox and he spoke well but before joining us he'd only ever run youth teams and now he's trying to dictate how a club like Man United play. All very odd.

This we agree on. We were shit on by Joe Shields then Jason Wilcox

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11 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

On why some posters seemingly have hate for Ankersen, its a strange one, if Rasmus had his way the numptie Hasenhuttl would have long been sacked before heading us into relegation. He wanted him out, and was obviously concerned that Ralph had lost the dressing room and had anchored a large dark cloud over staplewood.

Rasmus should get some criticism though for the overblown January spend esp the crazy fee for barn door merchant Sulemana

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14 minutes ago, manji said:

Especially as Rasmus has nothing to do with recruitment. He’s in charge of building up SRs club roster. Never mind he makes a great scapegoat for fans too stupid enough to understand the set up.

@Whitey Grandad

But he openly admitted he was in charge of recruitment in the January of 2023, arguably the most important transfer window we've had for many, many years - and he lumbered us with Orsic (wtf?), Onuachu, Sullemana - wonderful scouting there. Charly the only success, but he's not even here anymore either.

He failed us in that January more than Joe Shields or Wilcox did, that's why fans have such an issue with him.

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

But he openly admitted he was in charge of recruitment in the January of 2023, arguably the most important transfer window we've had for many, many years - and he lumbered us with Orsic (wtf?), Onuachu, Sullemana - wonderful scouting there. Charly the only success, but he's not even here anymore either.

He failed us in that January more than Joe Shields or Wilcox did, that's why fans have such an issue with him.

Didn’t he also boast that he was personally taking care of the Cody Gakpo transfer yet he got totally played by him too. His track record with us so far ain’t exactly great. Appointing jones and Selles, a relegation, tens of millions down the drain which includes  a January transfer window which was nothing short of a disaster. I’m surprised anyone defends him

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Didn’t he also boast that he was personally taking care of the Cody Gakpo transfer yet he got totally played by him too. His track record with us so far ain’t exactly great. Appointing jones and Selles, a relegation, tens of millions down the drain which includes  a January transfer window which was nothing short of a disaster. I’m surprised anyone defends him

This is it in a nutshell.

But also any time it feels like we get an appointment right they are offski before we as fans have even noticed their impact. That said Wilcox seems to have made wide-ranging changes and hires so will have left an impact internally. I've also heard that the DoF job role might be split amongst ~4 senior types; presumably Manager, Mowbray, Parsons (not sure who the other one would be) 

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Just bought one of his books - “the Goldmine effect “ kindle version to see if I can understand him bit better. Probably will get “Hunger in Paradise” his other book if the first is any good. 
Might post a review on the other non saints board if anyone is interested. 
NB already noted Sir Clive Woodward gives him a ringing endorsement …..😎

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44 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Just bought one of his books - “the Goldmine effect “ kindle version to see if I can understand him bit better. Probably will get “Hunger in Paradise” his other book if the first is any good. 
Might post a review on the other non saints board if anyone is interested. 
NB already noted Sir Clive Woodward gives him a ringing endorsement …..😎

Let me save you the trouble. It isn't. It's egotistical, cliched, management-speak claptrap about how Rasmus is a footballing alchemist. Sadly, what he, Lord Rasmus, has in fact discovered is purest green. 

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4 minutes ago, benali-shorts said:

Let me save you the trouble. It isn't. It's egotistical, cliched, management-speak claptrap about how Rasmus is a footballing alchemist. Sadly, what he, Lord Rasmus, has in fact discovered is purest green. 

Gio's gonna love all that bullshit!

Might even make his posts longer as he throws in a Rasmus quote or two.

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2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Just bought one of his books - “the Goldmine effect “ kindle version to see if I can understand him bit better. Probably will get “Hunger in Paradise” his other book if the first is any good. 
Might post a review on the other non saints board if anyone is interested. 
NB already noted Sir Clive Woodward gives him a ringing endorsement …..😎

By all means post a review, be interested to hear from someone else who has read it.

Can't be bothered reading it myself, I'll wait for the film to come out.

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23 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Can somebody explain to me the visceral hatred for Rasmus that is regularly voiced on here by a few posters? 

I’ve tried to understand what it might be and am guessing it’s a combo relegation, the NJ then RS then RM appointment plus our “ style” of play?
 

The bloke has been part and parcel of some successful organisations : Midjitland and Brentford and now Göztepe and hopefully this season a record breaking and repromoted Saints.


Despite that, Rasmus even more than RM looks a solid favourite as some posters favourite person-you-love-to-hate.
 

If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 
 

I don’t know the guy am not his mum not saying leave off the hate. Just hoping to understand if there’s anything more in it than what I’ve noticed. Or maybe the hate/abuse just goes with his title- and would be same whichever club or clubs he is at? 

Rasmus and sports republic came in and undermined a quality manager in ralph, wrongly sacked him imo, spent £160M to make us worse, got us relegated, completely destabilised the first team with 4 managers in half a year, tore up the club's backroom setup including the academy, general coaching, and scouting - and in the middle of all that, Rasmus stood up and gave a TED talk with the backdrop, "it if ain't broke, break it".

There is little to build a defending argument on for Sport Republic currently, and i am not likely to be doing much defending of them until we've finished above the relegation zone in the premier league with a manager that once again looks capable of establishing us in the top 10 with proper funding. To date though, they've done little but damage our club.... and we look to be going into another summer with a mess in the background - academy staff once again leaving and no DoF. 

The one thing i will say about Sports Republic is that they are at least committed and they do seemingly have a plan... they've just got the execution very wrong so far.

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2 hours ago, benali-shorts said:

Let me save you the trouble. It isn't. It's egotistical, cliched, management-speak claptrap about how Rasmus is a footballing alchemist. Sadly, what he, Lord Rasmus, has in fact discovered is purest green. 

Great reference!

”Can it be true?”

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12 minutes ago, Badger said:

By all means post a review, be interested to hear from someone else who has read it.

Can't be bothered reading it myself, I'll wait for the film to come out.

In the Goldmine Effect Rasmus goes searching for the answer why East Africans are good at long distance running, Jamaicans are good at sprinting and so on. He wants to know if it’s genetics or some other reason.

The answer, it’s not genetics, it’s that it’s the most popular sport in the nation/area. An example I can give, the Dutch are generally good at ice skating, almost all top class skaters come from the north of the Netherlands. Why, because they have the most ice rinks and the biggest in Holland. Not because people up north here have better genetics than people from other regions. 

Mind you, it’s 8 years ago I read his book so my analysis might be a bit blurry.

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

In the Goldmine Effect Rasmus goes searching for the answer why East Africans are good at long distance running, Jamaicans are good at sprinting and so on. He wants to know if it’s genetics or some other reason.

The answer, it’s not genetics, it’s that it’s the most popular sport in the nation/area. An example I can give, the Dutch are generally good at ice skating, almost all top class skaters come from the north of the Netherlands. Why, because they have the most ice rinks and the biggest in Holland. Not because people up north here have better genetics than people from other regions. 

Mind you, it’s 8 years ago I read his book so my analysis might be a bit blurry.

Does he dabble in rocket science too, per chance....? ;)

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If I had to put my finger on why I think it might be he looks a bit young, looks a bit “ hipster”,  is definitely Northern European so comes across as a bit cold and his methodology is very data and sports science driven - and that combination drives some posters on here crazy because, especially the last point, it’s the antithesis of what they call football. Especially as it encourages the PB football style they also hate. He neatly personifies everything they hate about todays (modern) football. 

Mate this is absolute nonsense that people don’t like Rasmus because he’s young, looks good and is Danish (I’ve been to Denmark and the people there are kind and warming). 

The thing with Rasmus is that he is just full of shit. He talks a lot, acts like he’s some kind of guru and reinvents everything we do. So far he and Sports Republic have failed miserably with their mission of making us better and have squandered millions. How Dragan can’t see this is beyond me. 

When businesses go through staff the speed we do, it often means something within the structure isn’t going well or there’s a bad vibe on the work floor. Might be best if Rasmus and his team start working on this because if you look at our location and facilities it’s must attract people to come and work here. 

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