waylander Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 44 minutes ago, Oldandtired said: I know there’s all sorts of machinations and intrigue around transfers these days but I was wondering why we haven’t apparently tried to sign Fraser on a permanent deal yet. IMO he’s certainly shown enough to be an asset to the club. Anyone know anything? FFP rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Bournemouth's 29-year-old English midfielder Joe Rothwell is set to have a medical at Southampton before completing a loan move until the end of the season. (Daily Echo) Southampton are also targeting a winger on loan this month with Manchester United's 21-year-old Ivory Coast international Amad Diallo and Bournemouth's Wales international David Brooks, 26, on their shortlist. (Givemesport) Edited January 15 by East Kent Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Seems Rothwell is more of a Carvalho alternative than anything to do with the RW search. I reckon we will keep Che and it will be Rothwell plus a RW and that will complete our business. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: Seems Rothwell is more of a Carvalho alternative than anything to do with the RW search. I reckon we will keep Che and it will be Rothwell plus a RW and that will complete our business. Be quite happy with that to be honest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 22 hours ago, Oldandtired said: I know there’s all sorts of machinations and intrigue around transfers these days but I was wondering why we haven’t apparently tried to sign Fraser on a permanent deal yet. IMO he’s certainly shown enough to be an asset to the club. Anyone know anything? Personally don't see much rationale in signing a 30yrd old on a permanent basis. He's a useful loan player at championship level but not convinced we should be splashing money for a permanent deal if we get promoted let alone if we end up stuck in this division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 hours ago, East Kent Saint said: Bournemouth's 29-year-old English midfielder Joe Rothwell is set to have a medical at Southampton Lets hope it a different medical team that waived through Stewart lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 wow this is so far down in the listings on the forum,must be the sensible season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just listening to Talk Sport re Newcastle's worsening injury crisis, and their inability to dip into the market due to the constraints of FFP, does anyone know if there is a recall option on Ryan Fraser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Just listening to Talk Sport re Newcastle's worsening injury crisis, and their inability to dip into the market due to the constraints of FFP, does anyone know if there is a recall option on Ryan Fraser? You get the impression both parties would rather set their head on fire than go down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Also needing to sell their top player to keep within FFP ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: Also needing to sell their top player to keep within FFP ! We can make a cheeky bid to make the deal permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Er not that one 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 https://x.com/sachatavolieri/status/1747299540477071592?s=46&t=Byxa-eg_DNJ2-nyxjcqITw Back For Benson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Everton, Palace and Wolves told to pay £6m for Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Everton, Palace and Wolves told to pay £6m for Adams. https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/everto-wolves-and-crystal-palace-discover-price-they-must-pay-for-southampton-player-this-month/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 19 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: https://x.com/sachatavolieri/status/1747299540477071592?s=46&t=Byxa-eg_DNJ2-nyxjcqITw Back For Benson I keep thinking about this old school programme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gio1saints said: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/everto-wolves-and-crystal-palace-discover-price-they-must-pay-for-southampton-player-this-month/ 42 games as a striker and 9 goals Edited January 16 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 29 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Final thing is I assume we will be over the limit of match day loans or holgate is heading off, assume the former Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 34 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Everton, Palace and Wolves told to pay £6m for Adams. I can’t help but feel that he’s more valuable to us than £6m. Especially in his current form. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Dman said: I can’t help but feel that he’s more valuable to us than £6m. Especially in his current form. Maybe they have a potential replacement lined up who costs around that figure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: Maybe they have a potential replacement lined up who costs around that figure? Miovski maybe? Edited January 16 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Miovski maybe? Could be. Sounds like we were interested previously and apparently he's available for 6-8 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Maybe they have a potential replacement lined up who costs around that figure? Seems risky to me. Che has proven, when he can be arsed, can score plenty at this level. Anyone we bring in would be a gamble. Fully aware that contradicts what I said about ins vs outs at the start of the thread.. my opinion on che changes weekly Upon reflection, i think I’m settled on - whilst risky, a direct L4L replacement of Che and that lad form Aberdeen is probably the right thing to do.. Edited January 16 by Dman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 51 minutes ago, CSA96 said: The first comment on that post 😂😂😂 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 14 minutes ago, Saint NL said: The first comment on that post Free Benson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Toussaint said: Just listening to Talk Sport re Newcastle's worsening injury crisis, and their inability to dip into the market due to the constraints of FFP, does anyone know if there is a recall option on Ryan Fraser? Edited January 16 by manji 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 17 minutes ago, Dman said: Seems risky to me. Che has proven, when he can be arsed, can score plenty at this level. Anyone we bring in would be a gamble. Fully aware that contradicts what I said about ins vs outs at the start of the thread.. my opinion on che changes weekly Upon reflection, i think I’m settled on - whilst risky, a direct L4L replacement of Che and that lad form Aberdeen is probably the right thing to do.. It’s healthy to change your mind if the evidence suggests it to you. It’s usually a mark of high intelligence but also pretty courageous to do - so kudos. My view on Che is reluctantly on the side of sell - I have same reservations as yourself BUT if we get a l4l replacement that balances out. My analysis of Che ( Ive posted this somewhere) suggests he is statistically speaking, good for around another 6 goals this season if he stays. Any replacement scores less than that ( or with added assists ) then it’s been a mistake- even with £6m banked. Replacement scores and assists more- it was the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, gio1saints said: It’s healthy to change your mind if the evidence suggests it to you. It’s usually a mark of high intelligence but also pretty courageous to do - so kudos. My view on Che is reluctantly on the side of sell - I have same reservations as yourself BUT if we get a l4l replacement that balances out. My analysis of Che ( Ive posted this somewhere) suggests he is statistically speaking, good for around another 6 goals this season if he stays. Any replacement scores less than that ( or with added assists ) then it’s been a mistake- even with £6m banked. Replacement scores and assists more- it was the right call. Alternatively, the replacement scores less than 6 and we go up anyway with 6 million more in our pocket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 26 minutes ago, Saint NL said: The first comment on that post 😂😂😂 How can they still be whining about that. It was an insulting offer. We turned them down. Then sold Tella for more than twice that to a side that wasn't taking the piss. Who do they think they are? Liverpool? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 28 minutes ago, Saint NL said: The first comment on that post 😂😂😂 What did we do? Charge them our asking price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, coalman said: How can they still be whining about that. It was an insulting offer. We turned them down. Then sold Tella for more than twice that to a side that wasn't taking the piss. Who do they think they are? Liverpool? That's not "them" talking. That's a fat bloke wearing a santa hat. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 27 minutes ago, Saint NL said: The first comment on that post 😂😂😂 Rejected £9m, accepted £20m. And the poor bastard is now slumming it at the top of the bundesliga. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 29 minutes ago, Saint NL said: The first comment on that post 😂😂😂 ''What we did with Tella'' - what, held out for what we thought was too good to turn down? We weren't selling him for a packet of crisps and a fag packet, not our fault that's all Burnley have to play with financially. It's like they're entitled enough to think we should just give him to them. They're Burnley, they need to have a quick look out their windows at their town and bring themselves down a peg or 10. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, egg said: That's not "them" talking. That's a fat bloke wearing a santa hat. In my head that is functionally equivalent concept to Burnley football club. Edited January 16 by coalman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 19 minutes ago, manji said: Thanks for that, but do you know if they have a recall option and if they could invoke it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, coalman said: In my head that is functionally equivalent concept to Burnley football club. Ha!! He looks like Michael Van Gerwen at a Christmas party to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, egg said: Ha!! He looks like Michael Van Gerwen at a Christmas party to me. Behaving strangely at a party nobody thought he'd been invited to yet drunk enough to believe he belongs there? And behaving creepily enough that the other party goers are thinking of going home early. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 15/01/2024 at 13:04, Baird of the land said: Personally don't see much rationale in signing a 30yrd old on a permanent basis. He's a useful loan player at championship level but not convinced we should be splashing money for a permanent deal if we get promoted let alone if we end up stuck in this division. Not rational as you say but clearly there is still a lot of mileage in the Fraser engine and the other mechanicals seem to be working just fine. Age is just a number; he may be 30 yo but seems have the energy and physical condition of a 25 yo. On that basis I would take a chance on him, 2 year contract in the summer and we have a far more than competent back-up to the fast developing Edozie & Sulemana, what's to lose? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 26 minutes ago, coalman said: Behaving strangely at a party nobody thought he'd been invited to yet drunk enough to believe he belongs there? And behaving creepily enough that the other party goers are thinking of going home early. I rest my case. To be fair, that just sounds like you are reminiscing!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: To be fair, that just sounds like you are reminiscing!! I dream of having the opportunity to do that. Nobody invites me though 😢 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Boro apparently winning the race for Amad Diallo loan as they are offering to pay a higher amount of his wages. We are still interested (Alan Nixon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 37 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Boro apparently winning the race for Amad Diallo loan as they are offering to pay a higher amount of his wages. We are still interested (Alan Nixon) I'll wait until I hear it from somebody else. Nixon's about as reliable as Alex Crook when it comes to transfer news. Set up a patreon account to take peoples money for transfer gossip. A bit like them call lines they used to give in shoot/match magazines 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Diallo since publicly stated his love for Sunderland and denied the Boro move. Allegedly, the message shows him saying ‘the only club I’d join on loan outside the prem is Sunderland.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 8 hours ago, Monk said: Diallo since publicly stated his love for Sunderland and denied the Boro move. Allegedly, the message shows him saying ‘the only club I’d join on loan outside the prem is Sunderland.’ Well that’s a shame, he would have been perfect. Manuel Benson seems to be the main target then #FreeBenson, unless there is still a chance with David Brooks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Still don’t see the point in this rw/benson need with Armstrong having most goals and a ton of assists why would you move him ? its the equivalent of Liverpool signing someone to replace prime salah for this league not to mention we have Fraser and soon to be sulemana and edozie to keep happy. I get the left footed thing but Arma is kinda proving we don’t really need that Edited January 17 by pimpin4rizeal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 18 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Still don’t see the point in this rw/benson need with Armstrong having most goals and a ton of assists why would you move him ? its the equivalent of Liverpool signing someone to replace prime salah for this league not to mention we have Fraser and soon to be sulemana and edozie to keep happy. I get the left footed thing but Arma is kinda proving we don’t really need that We don't even have a left footed attacker in the squad (bar SAA who is good prospect but clearly not there yet) so surely he'd be a good alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 30 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Still don’t see the point in this rw/benson need with Armstrong having most goals and a ton of assists why would you move him ? its the equivalent of Liverpool signing someone to replace prime salah for this league not to mention we have Fraser and soon to be sulemana and edozie to keep happy. I get the left footed thing but Arma is kinda proving we don’t really need that Good point. But we could always move Adam A to the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 32 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: I get the left footed thing but Arma is kinda proving we don’t really need that If it gets Manning off corners I'm all for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Not signing a RW would not be make or break for Saints this season, all things being equal. IMO. Any replacement for Che though cannot just be a “goal scorer”, that’s not enough. They need to be able to be effective in a team that plays PB football. That means possess high technical ability, high stamina, great humility & selflessness, plus high football intelligence in tactical and situational awareness to hit the ground running. That is why I think we may be a little surprised if/when Che goes at the type of replacement brought in. It won’t be a Tall Paul type put it that way! Edited January 17 by gio1saints 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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