Turkish Posted Wednesday at 17:34 Posted Wednesday at 17:34 Good Big, strong, fast centre backs are pretty rare. If he half decent he’ll be a real asset. 3
Fabrice29 Posted Wednesday at 17:34 Posted Wednesday at 17:34 23 hours ago, Rowan Gorilla 5 said: Joshua Quarshie on loan at Greuther Fürth from Hoffenheim also fits the criteria. Random post 2 years after their last... 4 1
Master Bates Posted Wednesday at 17:38 Author Posted Wednesday at 17:38 He'll probably go to Goztepe, can't get too excited these days with new signings as they may not ever play for us. 1 1
saintant Posted Wednesday at 17:39 Posted Wednesday at 17:39 15 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: So we're going back to trying to unearth the next Livramento/Lavia and playing pressing football? I've gone back in time. A mix of young potential and proven quality will do this summer. Doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. Of course, if the scouting is good then we'll get a lot more Livramento's and Lavia's than the duds we signed three years ago. Just have to hope it is. Either way, Championship clubs don't spent £3.5m on non-first team/Goztepe loan players. THB and Quarshie centre-backs with Edwards in midfield? THB's likely off, though. It was reported a couple of weeks back that Tim Lederer was becoming our chief scout from Hoffenheim, so more than likely a suggestion of his. Not sure THB will command much interest in the Premier league seeing as he had a poor season so his options may be limited. 1
Matthew Le God Posted Wednesday at 17:48 Posted Wednesday at 17:48 5 minutes ago, Master Bates said: He'll probably go to Goztepe, can't get too excited these days with new signings as they may not ever play for us. The Echo say otherwise... "Two-footed Quarshie is considered a first team signing and will link up with Will Still's squad when Saints return for pre-season at the end of June." 5
AlexLaw76 Posted Wednesday at 17:52 Posted Wednesday at 17:52 (edited) I note that he is young, but is he hungry? Edited Wednesday at 17:52 by AlexLaw76
Willo of Whiteley Posted Wednesday at 17:57 Posted Wednesday at 17:57 He’s young, is he good enough? Never heard of him. Mis-read Nigel Quashie initially and panicked! Reckon this is one for the U21’s on first team? We need experience 1
Jeremy Corbyn Posted Wednesday at 18:04 Posted Wednesday at 18:04 3 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: He’s young, is he good enough? Never heard of him. Mis-read Nigel Quashie initially and panicked! Reckon this is one for the U21’s on first team? We need experience Do we? We have quite a bit of experience but a lack of ability / potential. Anyway, this tweet translated from German is clear he's a "back 3" centre back
Master Bates Posted Wednesday at 18:06 Author Posted Wednesday at 18:06 17 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: The Echo say otherwise... "Two-footed Quarshie is considered a first team signing and will link up with Will Still's squad when Saints return for pre-season at the end of June." Cheers, I didn't read it so missed that bit 👍 1
lambtiss Posted Wednesday at 18:08 Posted Wednesday at 18:08 36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I copied and pasted from the Echo website without proof reading the professional journalist! So was their typo, not mine. 😉 You pick everybody up on this forum for far less. You posted this, so it's your error. Own your mistakes Matthew. 14
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Wednesday at 18:24 Posted Wednesday at 18:24 32 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I note that he is young, but is he hungry? Born in Germany, of Ghanaian descent. 🙂
Matthew Le God Posted Wednesday at 18:25 Posted Wednesday at 18:25 16 minutes ago, lambtiss said: You pick everybody up on this forum for far less. You posted this, so it's your error. Own your mistakes Matthew. I have to proof read Echo articles?
Turkish Posted Wednesday at 18:25 Posted Wednesday at 18:25 33 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I note that he is young, but is he hungry? If he is then he is GUARANTEED to improve
Pamplemousse Posted Wednesday at 18:37 Posted Wednesday at 18:37 Defence needs a major overhaul, he, Edwards and THB (if he stays) would be excellent options there, with Stephens as a decent back up. 1
benjii Posted Wednesday at 18:47 Posted Wednesday at 18:47 22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I have to proof read Echo articles? If you want to avoid being Matthew Mistake, then yes. 1 17
Weston Super Saint Posted Wednesday at 19:46 Posted Wednesday at 19:46 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: I have to proof read Echo articles? Maybe start with not plagiarising them - and credit the source rather than passing it off as your own? 5 1
Danbert Posted Wednesday at 19:48 Posted Wednesday at 19:48 Bloody hell, how many center backs do we need? 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Wednesday at 19:49 Posted Wednesday at 19:49 2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Maybe start with not plagiarising them - and credit the source rather than passing it off as your own? He's gone back and edited his spelling too, I see. Even thought it's already been quoted further down. Some things never change. 🙂 1
ChrisPY Posted Wednesday at 19:50 Posted Wednesday at 19:50 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Danbert said: Bloody hell, how many center backs do we need? Two or three good ones will do so at least one signing is needed. Edited Wednesday at 19:50 by ChrisPY 1
trousers Posted Wednesday at 19:53 Posted Wednesday at 19:53 1 minute ago, Danbert said: Bloody hell, how many center backs do we need? At least, unlike previous seasons, we can be reassured that they're no doubt busy working on signing a marquee striker whilst acquiring these other players that we don't need... 1
Convict Colony Posted Wednesday at 19:53 Posted Wednesday at 19:53 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: I note that he is young, but is he hungry? He's 6ft 5 he must be starving all the time 4
woodsaint1 Posted Wednesday at 20:02 Posted Wednesday at 20:02 10 minutes ago, Danbert said: Bloody hell, how many center backs do we need? I'd say Bednarek and ABK are definitely leaving, and potentially THB as well depending on the offers Means we've space for another even after signing this kid. Hopefully somebody with a bit of experience 1
Dusic Posted Wednesday at 20:08 Posted Wednesday at 20:08 THB will definitely go unless his injury puts him out for months. Saw in The Athletic he ranked 2nd for CBs in line breaking passes. A solid PL club will look past the shambolic setup we had this season and see a decent PL player with good on the ball attributes who qualifies as homegrown and has a good attitude. At £25m or so he is a decent buy in todays market. We will likely have Wood, Quarshie, Stephens and Edwards who would all expect to be starting in the Championship - will be interesting to see if perhaps one of the others goes too? 1
SuperSAINT Posted Wednesday at 20:28 Posted Wednesday at 20:28 20 minutes ago, Dusic said: THB will definitely go unless his injury puts him out for months. Saw in The Athletic he ranked 2nd for CBs in line breaking passes. A solid PL club will look past the shambolic setup we had this season and see a decent PL player with good on the ball attributes who qualifies as homegrown and has a good attitude. At £25m or so he is a decent buy in todays market. We will likely have Wood, Quarshie, Stephens and Edwards who would all expect to be starting in the Championship - will be interesting to see if perhaps one of the others goes too? I always figured West Ham or Palace would be good fits. 1
Lighthouse Posted Wednesday at 20:36 Posted Wednesday at 20:36 26 minutes ago, Dusic said: THB will definitely go unless his injury puts him out for months. Saw in The Athletic he ranked 2nd for CBs in line breaking passes. A solid PL club will look past the shambolic setup we had this season and see a decent PL player with good on the ball attributes who qualifies as homegrown and has a good attitude. At £25m or so he is a decent buy in todays market. We will likely have Wood, Quarshie, Stephens and Edwards who would all expect to be starting in the Championship - will be interesting to see if perhaps one of the others goes too? What makes you think we're in a hurry to sell him that cheap? That's barely a profit on the £20m we bought him for last summer. 3
Chez Posted Wednesday at 21:17 Posted Wednesday at 21:17 48 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: I always figured West Ham or Palace would be good fits. bournemouth need a CB and have money to burn. 1
ErwinK1961 Posted Wednesday at 21:19 Posted Wednesday at 21:19 Just now, Chez said: bournemouth need a CB and have money to burn. Huijsen to THB, what a downgrade. It’s more likely he’ll leave than not, but he’s had such a poor season it wouldn’t be a shock if he’s still here come September. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Wednesday at 21:21 Posted Wednesday at 21:21 1 hour ago, woodsaint1 said: I'd say Bednarek and ABK are definitely leaving, and potentially THB as well depending on the offers Means we've space for another even after signing this kid. Hopefully somebody with a bit of experience Beskitas allegedly interested in Nathan Wood too in addition to the above probable departures. Bednarek is a cert at £6m release fee.
St. Ciervo Posted yesterday at 02:33 Posted yesterday at 02:33 So our new signing is ridiculously big and fast, but he is in the second league and not playing. None of this adds up... Does he pull hair like our current CB? If not, he is still an improvement. 1
Oisin Posted yesterday at 05:15 Posted yesterday at 05:15 We have a desperate need for a defensive leader (better than Jan and Stephens), have some good cbs in the academy (Sanda, Moore, Dobson-Ventura, the 16 year old Man U are interested in), and 5 other cbs in their early 20s (Edwards, THB, Wood, Lawrence, ABK) and our first signing is a 20 year old cb of unknown quality? Does seem odd to me. Let’s hope he’s good, and at that much it’s not a big gamble. He certainly improves the physicality averages of the squad too! Just an odd area to look at for me. Clearly some of the above will be off. I hope so. It might also indicate a plan to play a back 3. I hope not 4
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 05:31 Posted yesterday at 05:31 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Oisin said: We have a desperate need for a defensive leader (better than Jan and Stephens), have some good cbs in the academy (Sanda, Moore, Dobson-Ventura, the 16 year old Man U are interested in), and 5 other cbs in their early 20s (Edwards, THB, Wood, Lawrence, ABK) and our first signing is a 20 year old cb of unknown quality? Does seem odd to me. Let’s hope he’s good, and at that much it’s not a big gamble. He certainly improves the physicality averages of the squad too! Just an odd area to look at for me. Clearly some of the above will be off. I hope so. It might also indicate a plan to play a back 3. I hope not Glad it’s not just me. Hope sincerely that this post gets reminded to me later on when he excels and is sold for £30m but this is classic SR again in the sense it’s a single transaction aimed purely at profit and not contributing a fully ready player in the spine of the team for the league we are playing in. Yes, really do not want to see three centre backs again, it vacated the midfield the whole season and ruined THB who was better in a back 4/central 2. You don’t often get Championship players who hit the ground running for League One fees and the club isn’t in a ‘one for the future’ place. If Wood is leaving as well Bednarek and possibly THB then as developmental back up it would make more sense. CBs with height and pace are rare but Blackburn had one in Tyler Magloire and he’s now out of contract at Northampton Town. Edited yesterday at 05:34 by Gloucester Saint 1
Whitey Grandad Posted yesterday at 05:45 Posted yesterday at 05:45 12 hours ago, Dusic said: Is Kamaladen related our own Kamaldeen Sulemana? I don't think he is. I think we bought the wrong player. 3
Whitey Grandad Posted yesterday at 05:47 Posted yesterday at 05:47 9 hours ago, Dusic said: THB will definitely go unless his injury puts him out for months. Saw in The Athletic he ranked 2nd for CBs in line breaking passes. A solid PL club will look past the shambolic setup we had this season and see a decent PL player with good on the ball attributes who qualifies as homegrown and has a good attitude. At £25m or so he is a decent buy in todays market. We will likely have Wood, Quarshie, Stephens and Edwards who would all expect to be starting in the Championship - will be interesting to see if perhaps one of the others goes too? A back six? We're heading in the wrong direction. 1
Chez Posted yesterday at 06:33 Posted yesterday at 06:33 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dusic said: THB will definitely go unless his injury puts him out for months. Saw in The Athletic he ranked 2nd for CBs in line breaking passes. A solid PL club will look past the shambolic setup we had this season and see a decent PL player with good on the ball attributes who qualifies as homegrown and has a good attitude. At £25m or so he is a decent buy in todays market. We will likely have Wood, Quarshie, Stephens and Edwards who would all expect to be starting in the Championship - will be interesting to see if perhaps one of the others goes too? I wonder if Edwards might depart. He will no doubt have suitors and might have had his nose put out of joint by being sent out on loan. I've no idea if that's the case, but going on the basis that's it's the players that you want to keep that tend to be in demand, I don't think there is any certainty about some players. Edited yesterday at 06:33 by Chez 1
Nolan Posted yesterday at 06:42 Posted yesterday at 06:42 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Hmm... as a player who our incoming head of Scouting Tim Lederer has seen a lot of, a signing that he knows very very well could be career defining. Whoscored base their statistics on pro games (top 3 tiers mainly in Germany), but at Hoffenheim, where he was consistently in the U23 squad was in the fourth tier there. Stats sites do have limitiation's. You would hope Tim Lederer will know exactly what we have here.
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 06:55 Posted yesterday at 06:55 Got to be honest, it’s the sort of signing I feared. I hope we go in a slightly different direction and sign players ready to go straight in but this looks like another clever bollocks data-driven signing. 5
tdmickey3 Posted yesterday at 07:06 Posted yesterday at 07:06 9 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Got to be honest, it’s the sort of signing I feared. I hope we go in a slightly different direction and sign players ready to go straight in but this looks like another clever bollocks data-driven signing. Could be that Rasmus is continuing to meddle 🙄 1
Dman Posted yesterday at 07:08 Posted yesterday at 07:08 9 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Got to be honest, it’s the sort of signing I feared. I hope we go in a slightly different direction and sign players ready to go straight in but this looks like another clever bollocks data-driven signing. I'd say its more likley come from the new head of scouting bloke who was previously at hoffenheim 3
qwertyell Posted yesterday at 07:51 Posted yesterday at 07:51 Greuther Furth vs Hamburg (who finished 2nd) league game from 10 days ago is up in full on the YouTubes if anyone wants a long look at Quarshie, who started for Greuther Furth, against reasonable opposition. I've done 10 minutes. He's made one block, a really clumsy foul that should've been a yellow card, and launched a pretty impressive throw in into the box. And he's just tried and failed to play an attacker offside but recovered to block another shot. I'm not watching any more. But I can confirm he A) exists and B) is tall. 1 5
UpweySaint Posted yesterday at 07:56 Posted yesterday at 07:56 57 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Got to be honest, it’s the sort of signing I feared. I hope we go in a slightly different direction and sign players ready to go straight in but this looks like another clever bollocks data-driven signing. What makes you think this is a data driven signing? I personally don’t get the anti data view but either way surely this signing is a bit more old school as the player has come from the same club as our new chief scout? I would assume he has watched this lads development in person. 1
Convict Colony Posted yesterday at 07:57 Posted yesterday at 07:57 2 hours ago, Oisin said: We have a desperate need for a defensive leader (better than Jan and Stephens), have some good cbs in the academy (Sanda, Moore, Dobson-Ventura, the 16 year old Man U are interested in), and 5 other cbs in their early 20s (Edwards, THB, Wood, Lawrence, ABK) and our first signing is a 20 year old cb of unknown quality? Does seem odd to me. Let’s hope he’s good, and at that much it’s not a big gamble. He certainly improves the physicality averages of the squad too! Just an odd area to look at for me. Clearly some of the above will be off. I hope so. It might also indicate a plan to play a back 3. I hope not When you build your car sometimes you need to have the wheels attached before you get the steering wheel. Honestly I would have Jan, Stephens, THB, ABK, Wood as leavers so would like to see them start leaving to make it more attractive to the defensive leader types you mention. With this signing here we are seeing the inside knowledge of Spors/Leder about Hoffenheim players and this being a quick low hanging fruit high potential player who has played a decent amount of matches in the bundesliga 2, so not a total novice for a cheap price and can compete for a place straightaway. Thinking about CBs and how Still likes 1 of them to press into midfield to disrupt/win balls etc i wonder if that is a role Edwards can do (QPR young player of the year in half a season) given he played there a few times for QPR and was excellent in their match v Leeds, he obviously can play in that congestion.
Convict Colony Posted yesterday at 08:00 Posted yesterday at 08:00 6 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Greuther Furth vs Hamburg (who finished 2nd) league game from 10 days ago is up in full on the YouTubes if anyone wants a long look at Quarshie, who started for Greuther Furth, against reasonable opposition. I've done 10 minutes. He's made one block, a really clumsy foul that should've been a yellow card, and launched a pretty impressive throw in into the box. And he's just tried and failed to play an attacker offside but recovered to block another shot. I'm not watching any more. But I can confirm he A) exists and B) is tall. This is the dedication i like
Nolan Posted yesterday at 08:00 Posted yesterday at 08:00 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: Got to be honest, it’s the sort of signing I feared. I hope we go in a slightly different direction and sign players ready to go straight in but this looks like another clever bollocks data-driven signing. its exactly the opposite. Our incoming head of Scouting has worked with him for the last 3 years. Tim Lederer brought him to Hoffenheim from Essen in the year Hoffenheims u23s won league and cup. 6
Saint Fan CaM Posted yesterday at 08:06 Posted yesterday at 08:06 3 minutes ago, Nolan said: its exactly the opposite. Our incoming head of Scouting has worked with him for the last 3 years. Tim Lederer brought him to Hoffenheim from Essen in the year Hoffenheims u23s won league and cup. Hardly revolutionary then? Hopefully the lad will be great and God knows we need better. Trouble is it’s difficult to see this signing as better than what we have on the books already, but it’s certainly too early to write him off. 1
Nolan Posted yesterday at 08:13 Posted yesterday at 08:13 (edited) If you fluctuate between 3 and 4 at the back as Still does we need 5 Centre backs. Bednarek is likely going, as is THB. Stephens has 1 year left. Edwards, Wood, Stephens, Kayi Sanda and a £3m arrival of someone with potential sounds like a workable 5. Edited yesterday at 08:13 by Nolan
Saint86 Posted yesterday at 08:28 Posted yesterday at 08:28 Leicester forums yesterday saying that Martin is 100% done, that they're also trying to sign someone from saints, and that people's heads will fall off (in a bad way) over who that is... It couldn't be Stephens... could it? Hopefully not Adam Armstrong though... 2 3
Charlie Wayman Posted yesterday at 08:34 Posted yesterday at 08:34 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Leicester forums yesterday saying that Martin is 100% done, that they're also trying to sign someone from saints, and that people's heads will fall off (in a bad way) over who that is... It couldn't be Stephens... could it? Hopefully not Adam Armstrong though... It'll be Flynn Downes, you can almost bet your house on it. [1-2 odds] Runner up will be Ryan Manning. [4-1 odds] It won't be Gavin………………… [25-1 odds] Of course Sod's Law dictates that Martin's system will come good at last and they will storm the league with maximum points [Evens!] Edited yesterday at 08:37 by Charlie Wayman
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