Will Still

[Smirking_Saint]

Im generally a pretty optimistic and patient fan

But this has gone too far surely

Its time to go

[Willo of Whiteley]

He isn’t going anywhere unfortunately.

[sockeye]

I can't say things are starting to click. That being said, I think some people are missing the forest for the trees in their hatred of Still.

[CB Fry]

I think the important thing at this time is to piss away about another 8 games just to give the "give-him-time" divs their opportunity to live out their Alex Ferguson fantasy.

 

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

He isn’t going anywhere unfortunately.

How do you know that?

[stknowle]

He really does look utterly lost. Grimacing and kind of licking his lips as he shifts about nervously. It’s hopeless.

[Smirking_Saint]

2 minutes ago, sockeye said:

I can't say things are starting to click. That being said, I think some people are missing the forest for the trees in their hatred of Still.

I don’t hate him at all, he’s clearly a talented manager due to his praise in the game and his credentials

But it just hasn’t worked;

I think the rumours of a dressing room falling out are clearly true and my main issue is the money he spent assembling a team to play 4231 that he then ditched within about 140 minutes

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

3 minutes ago, sockeye said:

I can't say things are starting to click. That being said, I think some people are missing the forest for the trees in their hatred of Still.

I don't hate the guy. Seems like a nice fella and all but found wanting in the championship at Saints.

Agree with CB Fry, what's the point of giving him more games when no progress has been made with a full preseason AND a quarter of the season gone?

[Bakovnetski]

Back 5 is really working for us isn't it 

[stknowle]

7 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I don’t hate him at all, he’s clearly a talented manager due to his praise in the game and his credentials

But it just hasn’t worked;

I think the rumours of a dressing room falling out are clearly true and my main issue is the money he spent assembling a team to play 4231 that he then ditched within about 140 minutes

I don’t hate him either but at this level he is clearly not a talented manager. He looks utterly lost and clearly hasn’t got a clue how to change the course of a game when it’s going against us. Not his fault he was appointed, should never have been offered the job. As others have said I have no faith whatsoever that the wankers in charge will get the replacement right and this has all got Luton mkII except with more money spunked away all over it.

Edited 3 hours ago by stknowle

[LGTL]

I had it on reasonably good authority that the dressing room fall out wasn’t about us. But Stephens hasn’t been seen since so I’m not sure I believe it. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

How do you know that?

Sport Reoublic aren’t going to pull the trigger ten games into the season. It would be another admission of a fuck yo by them, another to add to the list.

He’ll be here all season.

[Baird of the land]

Hopefully a failure to beat Blackburn will end his tenure.

[tdmickey3]

Time to go

[Suhari]

It's not going well, is it?

[Lymington Saint]

This team is incapable of grinding out results in the championship and winning ugly. Cant score goals and periodically self destruct. And occasionally look really good. Cant see Still turning this round unfortunately. Need a manager who can get this lot to play plus a striket who can hold the ball up

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Sport Reoublic aren’t going to pull the trigger ten games into the season. It would be another admission of a fuck yo by them, another to add to the list.

He’ll be here all season.

Not so sure. This cannot continue. They will sack him but still hire another complete no mark out of his depth

[Mr X]

4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Time to go

This I feel for the guy but he's not ready for the step up! Sport Republic have learnt nothing though and won't act soon enough! Our season is over already if we stick with someone showing no signs of having what we need 

Edited 2 hours ago by Mr X

[Fabrice29]

14 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I think the important thing at this time is to piss away about another 8 games just to give the "give-him-time" divs their opportunity to live out their Alex Ferguson fantasy.

 

 

Give another manager those 8 games instead. Thats worked out well all year.

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Time to go

Yeah he's just not good enough for this level I'm afraid and not experienced enough. We've brought in loads of players and then aren't utilising them correctly. Most of them are sat on the bench or not in the squad. I'm not sure who to bring in but get someone with championship experience.

[Maggie May]

We’ve never really recovered losing to Aston Villa 4-0 in 2022.  

[Saint NL]

18 minutes ago, sockeye said:

can't say things are starting to click.

They're starting to click the same way my knees do when I stand up too quickly

[saints1988]

8 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I had it on reasonably good authority that the dressing room fall out wasn’t about us. But Stephens hasn’t been seen since so I’m not sure I believe it. 

I have heard the opposite from a coach within the club at youth level.

Does not come across very well but quite frankly, these players have won four league games in 17 months, perhaps some reflection on themselves wouldn’t go amiss 

Edited 2 hours ago by saints1988

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

We’ve never really recovered losing to Aston Villa 4-0 in 2022.  

This entirely! 

[Fabrice29]

Has anyone considered that the manager might not be the only thing that dictates result? Or do we need to go through our 5th one this year to consider it?

[SfcPhil]

He's not getting sacked while we're 17th. He will likely be sacked if/when we're in or near the relegation zone.

Another Spors F up after "the striker he must have" Downs and the Stephens contract.

[RedArmy]

10 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I had it on reasonably good authority that the dressing room fall out wasn’t about us. But Stephens hasn’t been seen since so I’m not sure I believe it. 

And by Stephens standards he wasn’t actually playing that poorly this season. 

[LGTL]

4 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

We’ve never really recovered losing to Aston Villa 4-0 in 2022.  

I blame Putin

[Sir Ralph]

When things keep going this wrong, I'm not sure its even the manager anymore. Its the fundamentals of the club. No matter how good a record the manager that we bring is they always underperform. Its like Man Utd. We need new owners.

[saint michael]

Didn’t someone on here say we are making progress each game. Please enlighten me to the progress made in this one. I’ve been watching shyte and tonight was another helping.diff this season we are a championship side bereft of anything near to being a football side and last year we were a prem side with the same shit characteristics 

[LGTL]

2 minutes ago, saints1988 said:

I have heard the opposite from a coach within the club at youth level.

Does not come across very well but quite frankly, these players have won four league games in 17 months, perhaps some reflection on themselves wouldn’t go amiss 

Mine came from within the first team. So I reckon there was a massive face saving campaign going on within the club around that time. 

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said:

When things keep going this wrong, I'm not sure its even the manager anymore. Its the fundamentals of the club. No matter how good a record the manager that we bring is they always underperform. Its like Man Utd. We need new owners.

 

[S-Clarke]

We can sack him if we want, but the same argument applies when we sacked Juric - what's the point?

We've totally destroyed Stills upward trajectory too, he was quite a positive up and coming manager, but he's damaged goods for his career now. 

What a mess.

[Lord Duckhunter]

11 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

he’s clearly a talented manager due to his praise in the game and his credentials

 

What fucking credentials. And what has  praise got to do with it, just a load of fucking hipsters smoking their own dope by pretending they understand things the dinosaurs don’t. Nathan Jones is a far better manager at this level than this ginger prick, despite what the “experts” tell you . “Clearly talented” my fucking arse….

[Osvaldorama]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Has anyone considered that the manager might not be the only thing that dictates result? Or do we need to go through our 5th one this year to consider it?

You say this, but what the fuck else are we supposed to do? 
 

Clearly not working, clearly the formation is absolutely wrecking us. 
We were promised our new director of football would bring in the signings we needed, but he’s managed to sign Ali Dia and make us weaker at both business ends.  
 

Dunno where we go from here, really. Are we really going to lose each week until we can sign a striker? 

[Harry_SFC]

22 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I think the important thing at this time is to piss away about another 8 games just to give the "give-him-time" divs their opportunity to live out their Alex Ferguson fantasy.

 

 

I initially said give him time but it's gone too far now. We left it two months too late with Martin who should've been sacked in October when it clearly wasn't working. This isn't working either. Get it done now. Just got no faith in SR finding a decent replacement. 

[Turkish]

I blame the tories and mass immigration 

[Sir Ralph]

Just now, Osvaldorama said:

You say this, but what the fuck else are we supposed to do? 
 

Clearly not working, clearly the formation is absolutely wrecking us. 
We were promised our new director of football would bring in the signings we needed, but he’s managed to sign Ali Dia and make us weaker at both business ends.  
 

Dunno where we go from here, really. Are we really going to lose each week until we can sign a striker? 

Boycott and protest. Need to get these bellends at SR out. But Saints fans are too apathetic.

[Osvaldorama]

Like.. I also don’t want a new manager. 
 

We need stability. But wtf are we doing here, seriously? 

[Simo is back]

PULL THE PLUG !

[Sarisbury Saint]

These players are shit. Nothing to do with the manager. Too many lazy buggers who think they’re better than they are.

Sick to death of them getting away with it all the time and blaming the managers.

 

[Wade Garrett]

If stability is not winning every week then we’ve got it.

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, Sarisbury Saint said:

These players are shit. Nothing to do with the manager. Too many lazy buggers who think they’re better than they are.

Sick to death of them getting away with it all the time and blaming the managers.

 

We've got half a new team ffs.

[sockeye]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

I blame the tories and mass immigration 

Labour are the current government, and Damion Downs immigrated here on their watch.

[santolijador]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

We can sack him if we want, but the same argument applies when we sacked Juric - what's the point?

We've totally destroyed Stills upward trajectory too, he was quite a positive up and coming manager, but he's damaged goods for his career now. 

What a mess.

I think he'd be alright finding work in France/Belgium/NL etc. again whatever happens here. It's not like we wrecked Juric or Martin's reputations (RM did that himself with his effort at Rangers). Even Nathan Jones has recovered from his time here. And then look at Sellés post Saints, worked his way up and got another job yesterday I think. 

We need to learn from last season and make a move quickly rather than letting things stagnate and continue to slide. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 minute ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

Nothing to do with the manager.

Don’t be ridiculous. 

[AlexLaw76]

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

We can sack him if we want, but the same argument applies when we sacked Juric - what's the point?

We've totally destroyed Stills upward trajectory too, he was quite a positive up and coming manager, but he's damaged goods for his career now. 

What a mess.

Not sure would have stunted anyone trajectory. All the recent departures have done well enough finding good jobs...

Nathan Jones will embarrass Still at this rate

[Sarisbury Saint]

4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

We've got half a new team ffs.

A half arsed team. That’s my point.

[Crab Lungs]

I wanted Will Still to work out but this hasn’t been good enough for a while. No discernible style of play, just a team of decent players stuck in 3rd gear. This league is dross (with the exception of Cov). It simply isn’t acceptable and won’t get better. He has to go.
 

There’s a lot of people blaming the players. It’s not them. If you’re a manager, you’re accountable. Every team I’ve seen has looked fitter, better organised and more motivated. That’s on the manager.

Our squad, with the exception of probably Leicester, is one of the best in the league, if not the best. Those signings we made are for once, not dross - they’re good players. A better manager would be getting a hell of a lot more out of them.

It’s pathetic. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

I’m going to try and be rational.

Saturday against Swansea was entirely on the players inability to score. Not Will Still.

Tonight, three defensive errors was entirely on the players inability to defend. Not Will Still.

The problem I have with him though is his lack of tactical prowess. There’s no clear way that we play, apart from underwhelming.
We have players that supposedly can attack teams at this level yet we choose not to use them.
We persist with three CBs, despite the fact it’s been proven for some years that every time we play like that we concede just as many goals, which begs the question why not have that extra attacking player up top on in midfield.

This is where he does frustrate me. He isn’t learning.