North 0-1 South - ampton - Match Thread

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, Micky said:

The three at the front is a stupid idea as well...!

Leaving midfield empty.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, SWLondon Saint said:

Seriously, this is getting ridiculous, I don't want to defend the guy as I don't rate him for the PL but what is with the Sugawara hate? He didn't really do much wrong at all today and yes, I endured watching the entire game.

He puts in an effort, he just can't pass the ball accurately enough. Definitely wouldn't compare him to BBD, at least Suguwara looks like a professional footballer.

[SWLondon Saint]

I mean, if you're going point the finger at anyone, it has to be our front 3 who were bloody awful, couldn't hold the ball, no threat - the only one who gets a sort of pass is Downs as he's new and looks nervous. BBD and Archer have no excuse.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Seriously, this is getting ridiculous, I don't want to defend the guy as I don't rate him for the PL but what is with the Sugawara hate? He didn't really do much wrong at all today and yes, I endured watching the entire game.

Did you miss that he hardly ever passed to his own side? It was fairly easy to spot.

[Mixedkebab]

2 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Seriously, this is getting ridiculous, I don't want to defend the guy as I don't rate him for the PL but what is with the Sugawara hate? He didn't really do much wrong at all today and yes, I endured watching the entire game.

No hate from me, I just think he’s a crap/ineffective defender

[Whitey Grandad]

The draw for the next round is tomorrow on Sky Sports from 7:20 pm if anybody is interested or cares.

[miserableoldgit]

1 minute ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Seriously, this is getting ridiculous, I don't want to defend the guy as I don't rate him for the PL but what is with the Sugawara hate? He didn't really do much wrong at all today and yes, I endured watching the entire game.

It's the SaintWeb way. Virtually every Saints player goes through it at some stage.

[Harry_SFC]

3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

He puts in an effort, he just can't pass the ball accurately enough. Definitely wouldn't compare him to BBD, at least Suguwara looks like a professional footballer.

Sugawara actually defended ok tonight but you're right, his passing is abysmal. 

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Harry_SFC said:

Sugawara actually defended ok tonight but you're right, his passing is abysmal. 

The quality up against him wasn't great, so he wasn't tested hugely. His passing is what irrates me though, puts us into trouble so much. He cannot ever seem to find his own teammate. 

[Give it to Ron]

Well that was a painful watch - they had 2-3 good chances we probably had 2. Suga unlucky to hit post.

Nothing coming forward Downs worked hard but not sure on quality. BBD was abysmal just not got it anymore looks a beaten player.

Wood was good but my MOTM again was Manning didn’t put foot wrong and good in air.

Terrible ground fans tried but sometimes players need to get fans going but we were in training mode not get injured apart from Matty

[sockeye]

6 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

It's the SaintWeb way. Virtually every Saints player goes through it at some stage.

 

Bazunu and Stephens:

[S-Clarke]

That Wrexham game was mad. 3-1 down on 90mins, drew 3-3 and won on pens.

[macca155]

Ipswich not exactly brushing Bromley aside. Behind on Pens atm .

[disconnect]

5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

The quality up against him wasn't great, so he wasn't tested hugely. His passing is what irrates me though, puts us into trouble so much. He cannot ever seem to find his own teammate. 

Ironically, when he gets forward, he could be a good crosser, just needs to have proper strikers in the box.

[sandwichsaint]

12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

The draw for the next round is tomorrow on Sky Sports from 7:20 pm if anybody is interested or cares.

Surely it will be Westhampton next.

[Midfield_General]

Could be worse. Could have just lost to Bromley, like Ipswich have. 

So they will actually go into our game looking worse than us. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Midfield_General

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

Could be worse. Could have just lost to Bromley, like Ipswich have. 

 

Indeed. They will be feeling a lot worse than us! 

[saintant]

Ha, Ipswich lost to Bromley 4-3 in a penalty shoot out. That jerk Hirst missed his - wonder if he went to his fans arms outstretched and said, 'That's what I do' 🙂

[bpsaint]

Shame the skates are out, fancied a repeat of 2003 when we drew them as a warm up to the league match.

That was dreadful tonight, only plus is that it’s extra fitness for the squad, but we look seriously short of cohesion. I hope Spors has a few signings lined up else this could be a long season.

[saintant]

8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

That Wrexham game was mad. 3-1 down on 90mins, drew 3-3 and won on pens.

More dramatic footage for the Hollywood movie.

[Hamilton Saint]

2 minutes ago, saintant said:

Ha, Ipswich lost to Bromley 4-3 in a penalty shoot out. That jerk Hirst missed his - wonder if he went to his fans arms outstretched and said, 'That's what I do' 🙂

5-4

[Gloucester Saint]

24 minutes ago, Tommy said:

I’m okay with Baz tbh. I think he gets a really bad wrap from a lot. He’s not horrific and good enough for this level. 

I’m not sure Baz is the issue at the moment - McCarthy made one good early save but his handling was horrific and led to THB having to bail him out.

[Jimmy_D]

7 minutes ago, sandwichsaint said:

Surely it will be Westhampton next.

Ah. That brings back memories of playing Striker 95, with Westhampton’s star player being Matthew Le Tissue if I recall correctly  

[ant]

On the plus side, we didn't join the 5 Championship teams that went out to lower league opposition.

Add in the the 2 all-Championship fixtures that happened tonight and the 1 all-Championship match tomorrow, and that's at least a third of our division out at the first hurdle.

Avoid a Prem team in the next round draw; go on a nice little cup run; forget tonight ever happened.

Edited 18 hours ago by ant

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, ant said:

On the plus side, we didn't join the 5 Championship teams that went out to lower league opposition.

Add in the the 2 all-Championship fixtures that happened tonight and the 1 all-Championship match tomorrow, and that's at least a third of our division out at the first hurdle.

Avoid a Prem team in the next round draw; go on a nice little cup run; forget tonight ever happened.

I've erased it from my mind already 🙂

[SWLondon Saint]

28 minutes ago, saintant said:

Did you miss that he hardly ever passed to his own side? It was fairly easy to spot.

Tbh it wasn't just him tonight, we didn't pass well at all because we were outnumbered in midfield and had no presence up front at all. Our pass stats were 300 successful out of 390 which is about 76% aka shit all round. The 'passes' that bothered me the most were the front 3 trying a bunch of 1-touch layoffs which pretty much all went wrong and gave the ball away. Just take another f***ing touch!

[saintant]

Just now, SWLondon Saint said:

Tbh it wasn't just him tonight, we didn't pass well at all because we were outnumbered in midfield and had no presence up front at all. Our pass stats were 300 successful out of 390 which is about 76% aka shit all round. The 'passes' that bothered me the most were the front 3 trying a bunch of 1-touch layoffs which pretty much all went wrong and gave the ball away. Just take another f***ing touch!

Yeah, take your point and agree entirely about midfield. It concerns me if Will Still and Trollope couldn't see what was happening - we'll not get away with that sort of midfield against Ipswich on Sunday.

[SWLondon Saint]

4 minutes ago, saintant said:

I've erased it from my mind already 🙂

Now that I can get behind... 😅

[Football Special]

38 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

I mean, if you're going point the finger at anyone, it has to be our front 3 who were bloody awful, couldn't hold the ball, no threat - the only one who gets a sort of pass is Downs as he's new and looks nervous. BBD and Archer have no excuse.

All three of them get 3/10 rating,  poor 

[SaintBobby]

Pretty abysmal. Disjointed and error prone.

Upsides? Hmm…does Fernandes starting make it a bit less likely we are selling him? Ok…that’s a bit of a reach, maybe. 
 

Other upside for me was Ryan Fraser. Very good again. I’m thinking he should be in the starting XI but confess I have no idea where I’d play him (right back?)

[Lone ranger]

When he hasn’t fallen out with his manager Ryan F is a real asset. He busts a gut, harries and hassles, is strong and masses of experience. Let’s stop knocking him and try loving him. 

[Suhari]

Can only echo the previous posts....

Very disjointed; I don't get how he was trying to set up. Little fluidity apart from the goal, which was a pretty tidy move.

On the plus side: a win, some minutes for a few who likely needed it, and our fitness seems impressive.

Hopefully it's a case of 'work in progress!'

[qwertyell]

Thought we were absolutely minging. Minutes into the legs of a few is probably the only positive.

Kit looks all right, I guess.

 

[Sheaf Saint]

Well at least it wasn't as bad as Gillingham last season. Was it?

[SaintBobby]

6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Well at least it wasn't as bad as Gillingham last season. Was it?

Still have PTSD from that one. Tonight I just nearly died of boredom.

[Lighthouse]

10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Well at least it wasn't as bad as Gillingham last season. Was it?

At the risk of being anal, last season we made it as far as a QF at Anfield. However, as you say, any win is clearly an improvement on the Gills game, or even that dreadful Grimsby game in the FA Cup the year before.

[Jack]

Just back to the hotel after the game. 1st round cup ties are for learning a few things about your side and I hope we’ve learned this:

 

- BBD is still shit 

- 3 at the back is unnecessary against 1 up top 

- We’ll need to be far better on Sunday 

- Northampton is more of a shithole than Southampton 

- Matty Fernandes will score a goal for me 

[ErwinK1961]

8 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

At the risk of being anal, last season we made it as far as a QF at Anfield. However, as you say, any win is clearly an improvement on the Gills game, or even that dreadful Grimsby game in the FA Cup the year before.

At risk of being even more anal, it was at St Marys

[Andrew Watson]

That really was a dreadful watch. Whether it was complacency or just the fact that some of theplayers are just are not good enough [ more likely the case ]. We will not be picking up many away wins if we cannot play better than that,the passing in particular was atrocious.

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

At risk of being even more anal, it was at St Marys

True that, fair point. I'll always maintain that ANY cup win will do, just get into the next round, that's all that counts. Even our run to Cardiff in 2003 included a stoppage time equaliser in a dreadful home performance against Millwall.

[CSA96]

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by CSA96

[Saint Fan CaM]

I didn’t watch the game and going by the reports on here I’m pretty glad I didn’t. The highlights were…meh.

[SW11_Saint]

Will puts it all into perspective. And I feel less concerned about it now… 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0lwl7gn

Edited 15 hours ago by SW11_Saint

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

My 88year old neighbour who rides on a mobility scooter could have scored both chances that Downs had against Wrexham and Northampton!

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

2 hours ago, Jack said:

Just back to the hotel after the game. 1st round cup ties are for learning a few things about your side and I hope we’ve learned this:

 

- BBD is still shit 

- 3 at the back is unnecessary against 1 up top 

- We’ll need to be far better on Sunday 

- Northampton is more of a shithole than Southampton 

- Matty Fernandes will score a goal for me 

And Downs was shite too

[HnycS]

9 hours ago, Suhari said:

Macca spills it. Off the line THB.

THB had played in front of Macca before, one of them had a wise head for his age. Hint, it isn't Macca 

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

Saints fans when they go to the north side of Hampton today. I dunno, Lordswood or something.

[Matty's Caddy]

8 hours ago, Football Special said:

All three of them get 3/10 rating,  poor 

Between them?

[Chez]

8 hours ago, Lone ranger said:

When he hasn’t fallen out with his manager Ryan F is a real asset. He busts a gut, harries and hassles, is strong and masses of experience. Let’s stop knocking him and try loving him. 

I thought he was really good on Saturday. He looked laboured in preseason and was worried his legs might have gone, but he was bright and sharp against Wrexham. I don't want to see him at right back. That position needs addressing in this window IMO.

[gio1saints]

Any news on Ross Stewart? I thought it was odd him pulling out in warm up when he must be desperate to impress. Let’s hope not too serious. Mind you I think he’s dodged a bullet not playing! Not that he would have fancied Right wing was it all that much?