New Manager Debate

[LiberalCommunist]

They are going to let Tonda continue. I have no doubt about that. 

[Appy]

7 hours ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

My worry with Gerrard , Carrick etc is it wouldn't be a squad thats necessarily suited them and I can't see much business being done in Jan , I went to the Preston game and to Sheff Wednesday and I thought Tonda showed an understanding of our squad , I'd add the caveat that it was against weak opposition but the shape of the the back 5 looked so much better , THB and Jack splitting way higher and wider , getting fellows into the starting 11 running at players ( roerslev is solid enough but not a wing back for me) . There a few people around me slagging Azaz but I thought it was the first time he looked like the playmaker he was at Boro , he did lose the ball a few times but he was going for the higher risk forward passes , I'd be happy for Tonda to stay for the rest of the season

For the rest of the season based on the last two games? No wonder SR know they can take our fans for fools 

[Saint NL]

 

No idea if this guy is any good, but at least it would be interesting if we were linked with random managers from foreign leagues instead of just silence

[Appy]

Just now, Saint NL said:

 

No idea if this guy is any good, but at least it would be interesting if we were linked with random managers from foreign leagues instead of just silence

Getting things done quickly during an international break? Pretty bold strategy from Boro

[coalman]

5 minutes ago, Appy said:

Getting things done quickly during an international break? Pretty bold strategy from Boro

Have they learnt nothing from Sport Republic's genius?

[RedArmy]

6 minutes ago, Appy said:

Getting things done quickly during an international break? Pretty bold strategy from Boro

If only we had a weeks run up at it too. 
 

Fucking clowns. 

[AlexLaw76]

10 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

 

No idea if this guy is any good, but at least it would be interesting if we were linked with random managers from foreign leagues instead of just silence

I assume he is their 31 year old U21s coach?

[beatlesaint]

10 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

 

No idea if this guy is any good, but at least it would be interesting if we were linked with random managers from foreign leagues instead of just silence

If we appointed a former Chicago Fire coach this place would go into a bloody huge meltdown.

 

[Lighthouse]

16 minutes ago, Appy said:

Getting things done quickly during an international break? Pretty bold strategy from Boro

We appointed Still in May, didn't do us any good. Far better to wait and appoint the right guy for the job, not that I'm saying it's a forgone conclusion.

[Willo of Whiteley]

The thread may as well be closed. Or start up the Tonda Eckhart replacement thread for the summer.

It would be very Sports Republic-esque to appoint To da Eckhart and then seemingly not back him, tell him to work with the half-arsed players he has to, not get promoted or finish strongly and then sack him. 😂

[Hayling Saint]

15 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

If we appointed a former Chicago Fire coach this place would go into a bloody huge meltdown.

 

So true and ask Cardiff fans about Ole.

[Zorba]

6 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

It's all making sense now. Spors is actually Brains from Thunderbirds!

[RedArmy]

16 minutes ago, Hayling Saint said:

So true and ask Cardiff fans about Ole.

Is it not possible he has improved in the last 11 years? 
 

Who gives a fuck what he did in 2014. 

[Chez]

2 hours ago, trousers said:

You want to know what was said in a meeting between a club's sporting director and representative's of the club's fan base? How very old fashioned... Why on Earth would Sport Republic want such matters to be a matter of public record? That would make them accountable to the fans.... Dream on...

P.s. have 'FAB' ever published minutes of these meetings with the ownership / management? If yes, where are they published? If not, what's the point of a group that purports to represent the fan base but seemingly doesn't communicate with them...?

FAB is a focus group not an independant supporters group that need to take minutes and report back to the masses.

Maybe you should set up the Saintsweb independant supporter group Trousers. I'm happy to propose you as chairman. After which you can contact the club and ask them for a meeting. You can take minutes and then post them on here.

[The Kraken]

8 hours ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

My worry with Gerrard , Carrick etc is it wouldn't be a squad thats necessarily suited them and I can't see much business being done in Jan , I went to the Preston game and to Sheff Wednesday and I thought Tonda showed an understanding of our squad , I'd add the caveat that it was against weak opposition but the shape of the the back 5 looked so much better , THB and Jack splitting way higher and wider , getting fellows into the starting 11 running at players ( roerslev is solid enough but not a wing back for me) . There a few people around me slagging Azaz but I thought it was the first time he looked like the playmaker he was at Boro , he did lose the ball a few times but he was going for the higher risk forward passes , I'd be happy for Tonda to stay for the rest of the season

Nicely written and definitely an interesting viewpoint, entirely brand new poster 👍

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Nicely written and definitely an interesting viewpoint, entirely brand new poster 👍

Well pointed out. We've found one lads.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Well pointed out. We've found one lads.

The SFC Nudge Unit checked in for the day, it seems.

I suspect Monday will see more movement from the team.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

3 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

They are going to let Tonda continue. I have no doubt about that. 

Looks like it. What a waste, dont get me wrong if he carries on winning then great but I cant see it. 

A back 5 against Charlton and Jones will know what to do from the onset.

Edited 9 hours ago by JohnnyShearer2.0

[hypochondriac]

8 hours ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

My worry with Gerrard , Carrick etc is it wouldn't be a squad thats necessarily suited them and I can't see much business being done in Jan , I went to the Preston game and to Sheff Wednesday and I thought Tonda showed an understanding of our squad , I'd add the caveat that it was against weak opposition but the shape of the the back 5 looked so much better , THB and Jack splitting way higher and wider , getting fellows into the starting 11 running at players ( roerslev is solid enough but not a wing back for me) . There a few people around me slagging Azaz but I thought it was the first time he looked like the playmaker he was at Boro , he did lose the ball a few times but he was going for the higher risk forward passes , I'd be happy for Tonda to stay for the rest of the season

I've sussed it 

Johannes 

(and)

Rasmus 

Openly 

Bullshitts 

Big shorts.

Hiding in plain sight.

 

[Maggie May]

1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

 

No idea if this guy is any good, but at least it would be interesting if we were linked with random managers from foreign leagues instead of just silence

No thanks. We all know Wicky leaks goals. 

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I've sussed it 

Johannes 

(and)

Rasmus 

Openly 

Bullshitts 

Big shorts.

Hiding in plain sight.

 

Just waiting now for the “I’ve been a lurker on here for ages but decided to sign up, honestly I did” justification.

We’ve been here before, this isn’t our first rodeo ffs.

[AlexLaw76]

Joined Nov 9....

😂

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Just waiting now for the “I’ve been a lurker on here for ages but decided to sign up, honestly I did” justification.

We’ve been here before, this isn’t our first rodeo ffs.

Get Steve Grant to trace the IP to Phil Parson's office.

[RedArmy]

9 hours ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

My worry with Gerrard , Carrick etc is it wouldn't be a squad thats necessarily suited them and I can't see much business being done in Jan , I went to the Preston game and to Sheff Wednesday and I thought Tonda showed an understanding of our squad , I'd add the caveat that it was against weak opposition but the shape of the the back 5 looked so much better , THB and Jack splitting way higher and wider , getting fellows into the starting 11 running at players ( roerslev is solid enough but not a wing back for me) . There a few people around me slagging Azaz but I thought it was the first time he looked like the playmaker he was at Boro , he did lose the ball a few times but he was going for the higher risk forward passes , I'd be happy for Tonda to stay for the rest of the season

Nobody thinks you cheap fucks will pay for Gerrards tax bill but to claim Carrick doesn’t suit our players when we are crying out for a goal scorer and he got the best season out of Archer is laughable. 

[The Kraken]

Top 3 club sock puppets:

1) Rupert Lowe employing a whole media company to post positive spin

2) Nathan Jones

3) jrobsbigshorts, but it’s still early, you can move up those rankings yet fella

Honourable mention to “call me Mike” Wilde for roping in Keef Legg to do it in open sight. Free trip to Sweden? Cha ching.

[Wade Garrett]

44 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Top 3 club sock puppets:

1) Rupert Lowe employing a whole media company to post positive spin

2) Nathan Jones

3) jrobsbigshorts, but it’s still early, you can move up those rankings yet fella

Honourable mention to “call me Mike” Wilde for roping in Keef Legg to do it in open sight. Free trip to Sweden? Cha ching.

You know things are crap when club lackeys post shite on here to defend their paymasters.

[Turkish]

51 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Top 3 club sock puppets:

1) Rupert Lowe employing a whole media company to post positive spin

2) Nathan Jones

3) jrobsbigshorts, but it’s still early, you can move up those rankings yet fella

Honourable mention to “call me Mike” Wilde for roping in Keef Legg to do it in open sight. Free trip to Sweden? Cha ching.

Getting Keith to go to Sweden as his guest was a phenomenal. The picture mock up someone did of Keith on lead held by Wilde was brilliant. “Mike asked me to ask you…” posts after were brilliant 

shame it all went to his head and he couldn’t resist the Amy honey trap 

[RedArmy]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Getting Keith to go to Sweden as his guest was a phenomenal. The picture mock up someone did of Keith on lead held by Wilde was brilliant. “Mike asked me to ask you…” posts after were brilliant 

shame it all went to his head and he couldn’t resist the Amy honey trap 

I wonder if he posts on here or if he retired from the interweb. 

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I wonder if he posts on here or if he retired from the interweb. 

Last seen following sholing sports. Shame really he was an alright bloke but he got totally used by “Mike” and it all and to his head 

Edited 10 hours ago by Turkish

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

FAB is a focus group

What are they focusing on...?

[Harry_SFC]

To be fair Ole has a pretty decent record apart from the Cardiff debacle. Got sacked at Besiktas but still had a decent enough win% and did great at Molde twice. Also probably been one of if not United's best manager since Sir Alex left them. 

[Saint86]

15 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

To be fair Ole has a pretty decent record apart from the Cardiff debacle. Got sacked at Besiktas but still had a decent enough win% and did great at Molde twice. Also probably been one of if not United's best manager since Sir Alex left them. 

He's one of the least offensive names I've seen mentioned, and he'd be good with young players.

[StrangelyBrown]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

You know things are crap when club lackeys post shite on here to defend their paymasters.

Proper tinpot behaviour 

[Theolonius Monkou]

6 hours ago, trousers said:

 

 

 

 

 

You want to know what was said in a meeting between a club's sporting director and representative's of the club's fan base? How very old fashioned... Why on Earth would Sport Republic want such matters to be a matter of public record? That would make them accountable to the fans.... Dream on...

P.s. have 'FAB' ever published minutes of these meetings with the ownership / management? If yes, where are they published? If not, what's the point of a group that purports to represent the fan base but seemingly doesn't communicate with them...?

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/meeting-minutes

[Draino76]

This arrogant bulshitter is the root of all our problems. 

[Turkish]

Hearing we’ve interviewed Emma Hayes

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Theolonius Monkou said:

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/meeting-minutes

Cheers 👍🏻

I hereby withdraw my cynicism (well, some of it anyway 😁)

[Fabrice29]

5 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Whats your preference out of interest? You seem to be leaning towards keeping Eckert on. Care to explain why? 

I think I said recently I wouldn’t be choosing to keep him on necessarily. I’m not leaning that way. I’m just pointing out that’s it’s nice to have won a couple of games, the idea we’ve played two crap teams so it doesn’t count doesn’t really stack up either and maybe let the bed wetting wait until there’s something worth wetting the bed over.

Not many inspiring names about though IMO and I’m always in favour of appointing someone promising and someone the players like over someone ‘experienced/proven themselves incapable of managing a club to any decent degree elsewhere’

Edited 7 hours ago by Fabrice29

[jrobsbigshorts]

4 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

You know things are crap when club lackeys post shite on here to defend their paymasters.

Ha , don't know how I can defend myself against these allegations!

it's been so bad for so long I just wanted to highlight a rare positive in the shit show we've had since last season, I'm no fan of sports republic and think they've tried to be way too clever with their recruitment and have blown our chance to go straight back up to the prem and I'm pissed off they scapegoated Will Still to to deflect the criticism levelled at them and to do it with no replacement in mind is unforgivable, I wrote that post cos at the Wednesday game I was sat pitchside and I honestly saw better patterns of play and shape the other day , obviously against terrible opposition but Swansea are terrible too this season and we looked awful , I don't think Tonda is necessarily the answer but I don't think it's as simple as getting an established manager , dropping Baz, making the players try harder and playing 4 at the back which seems to be the considered wisdom on here, maybe a period of relative stability would do us good as it looks like the road back to the prem could be very long, as promotion is out of reach now maybe it's better not to rush into appointing someone that won't really bring in many of there own players  til the summer, of course I'd take Rose or Lampard tomorrow but that's not gonna happen 

I've honestly read the forum years and I didn't expect to be ripped into for a post that was just my opinion of what I saw in a match

Edited 6 hours ago by jrobsbigshorts

[Patrick Bateman]

13 minutes ago, trousers said:

Cheers 👍🏻

I hereby withdraw my cynicism (well, some of it anyway 😁)

NDAs ... jesus wept

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

52 minutes ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

Ha , don't know how I can defend myself against these allegations!

it's been so bad for so long I just wanted to highlight a rare positive in the shit show we've had since last season, I'm no fan of sports republic and think they've tried to be way too clever with their recruitment and have blown our chance to go straight back up to the prem and I'm pissed off they scapegoated Will Still to to deflect the criticism levelled at them and to do it with no replacement in mind is unforgivable, I wrote that post cos at the Wednesday game I was sat pitchside and I honestly saw better patterns of play and shape the other day , obviously against terrible opposition but Swansea are terrible too this season and we looked awful , I don't think Tonda is necessarily the answer but I don't think it's as simple as getting an established manager , dropping Baz, making the players try harder and playing 4 at the back which seems to be the considered wisdom on here, maybe a period of relative stability would do us good as it looks like the road back to the prem could be very long, as promotion is out of reach now maybe it's better not to rush into appointing someone that won't really bring in many of there own players  til the summer

I've honestly read the forum years and I didn't expect to be ripped into for a post that was just my opinion of what I saw in a match

You need to connect with folks like you know them.

Or bring up some golden oldies. 

I remember the great server switch debacle. It led to Mr S Grant having us join and pay for membership!

[Tamesaint]

I want somebody better than Tonda. I guess that this means an experienced manager who has been successful in the past and can give out weii deserved kicks up the arse to certain players. 

BUT

What happens in the next few weeks if it turns out that Tonda is a really good manager? What happens if in a few years he is regsrded in the same light as  say Pochettino? So far he has won 2 matches against weak teams but Blackburn, Derby and Swansea were weak teams and we didn't beat any of them. 

I can see the merit in giving him a bit longer in charge. If he can get 9 (or maybe 7) points in the next 3 games he will deserve a spell in charge to at least the end of the season. 

[coalman]

3 hours ago, Draino76 said:

This arrogant bulshitter is the root of all our problems. 

He said Google twice and while he may have had a chat with someone at Google at some point he had fuck all to do with Google's well.publicised research into high performing teams.

Saints do not meet any of Google's five requirements for high performing teams.

[Patches O Houlihan]

No wonder the betting odds on OGS have dropped:

I listened to the whole of his recent Stick to Football podcast on the dog walk yesterday. It came across as one big “Come and get me Southampton”

* I’m not a regular listener but I think Jill Scott said he was their first returning guest.

* Roy Keane reiterated twice about half an hour apart that he would take a ‘mid Championship job’ and that he would want to work with top talent not cloggers.

* OGS talked at length about how he likes turning the mentality of a club around (not something Middlesbrough need)

* Has some history with young players

* Bestiktas job sounds like he did ok and they are a bit mental

* He has had big gaps between jobs and has a cushy number with UEFA so easy to be overlooked in a manager search unless his agent makes an overt approach - but he said he prefers to be approached (don’t we all!)

* Sounds like OGS has had his Man U mates do him a favour. If I was a bookie I would be dropping the odds.

He comes across reasonably well, we could do worse. 
 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Patches O Houlihan
add YouTube link - haven’t watched it

[Wade Garrett]

7 hours ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

Ha , don't know how I can defend myself against these allegations!

it's been so bad for so long I just wanted to highlight a rare positive in the shit show we've had since last season, I'm no fan of sports republic and think they've tried to be way too clever with their recruitment and have blown our chance to go straight back up to the prem and I'm pissed off they scapegoated Will Still to to deflect the criticism levelled at them and to do it with no replacement in mind is unforgivable, I wrote that post cos at the Wednesday game I was sat pitchside and I honestly saw better patterns of play and shape the other day , obviously against terrible opposition but Swansea are terrible too this season and we looked awful , I don't think Tonda is necessarily the answer but I don't think it's as simple as getting an established manager , dropping Baz, making the players try harder and playing 4 at the back which seems to be the considered wisdom on here, maybe a period of relative stability would do us good as it looks like the road back to the prem could be very long, as promotion is out of reach now maybe it's better not to rush into appointing someone that won't really bring in many of there own players  til the summer, of course I'd take Rose or Lampard tomorrow but that's not gonna happen 

I've honestly read the forum years and I didn't expect to be ripped into for a post that was just my opinion of what I saw in a match

Yeah, of course…