New Manager Debate

[Saint_clark]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Of course. It's still quite unlikely barring a total turn around from a new manager but it could still be done. Writing off the whole season at this point is silly and even if we don't make the playoffs we need some good momentum and a settled manager ready for a push next year.

We're 10 points off the playoffs with 99 points still to play for, anyone writing off this season is an idiot. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

We're 10 points off the playoffs with 99 points still to play for, anyone writing off this season is an idiot. 

Totally agree. If we fall short, it is important the standards and momentum starts as soon as possible for next season. 

Next season with Wolves in the league, or at least one of the bigger clubs it seems. 

[Farmer Saint]

15 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

We're 10 points off the playoffs with 99 points still to play for, anyone writing off this season is an idiot. 

Oh yeah, we've got loads of time, it's why it was important to get the manager changed as quickly as possible so we don't pass up the opportunity.

[Zorba]

34 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

We're 10 points off the playoffs with 99 points still to play for, anyone writing off this season is an idiot. 

I’ve written it off and I am an idiot. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be preparing for next season with a bit of forethought. If we can’t get a decent manager right now, or players that we need in January, get in capable temporary replacements who are currently out of work on short term contracts. This would give us time to source the staff and players we really need to mount a charge for the PL next season with a new manager and players, some of whom, may be capable of holding their own in the top flight.. unlike the current squad and coaching staff.

Edited 2 hours ago by Zorba

[hypochondriac]

Personally I'm looking forward to a manager who uses Fellows and possibly Azaz properly so we can at least slightly see what they're capable of.

[Wade Garrett]

Writing the season off?  Can I get a refund on my season ticket then!

Make the right appointment and we can still go up.  Procrastination seems to be the order of the day though.  That and more clever-bollocks thinking.  I fucking despair of this club and the clowns in charge.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

We're 10 points off the playoffs with 99 points still to play for, anyone writing off this season is an idiot. 

Even if a miracle takes place and we make the play offs and win, do you really think we won't endure another miserable season in the PL? 

We are better off building sensibly and regrouping this season. Getting rid of the problem people and consolidating the foundations.

[AlexLaw76]

6 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Even if a miracle takes place and we make the play offs and win, do you really think we won't endure another miserable season in the PL? 

We are better off building sensibly and regrouping this season. Getting rid of the problem people and consolidating the foundations.

Miserable, like the 3 promoted clubs right now?

Sunderland have what? 150% of our points total of last season...and that is before bonfire night!!

Edited 56 minutes ago by AlexLaw76

[S-Clarke]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Miserable, like the 3 promoted clubs right now?

Sunderland have what? 150% of our points total of last season...and that is before bonfire night!!

I think under the current regime it would be another miserable experience. We need an entire gutting to be in a position to compete at any level I think.

I genuinely don't see any chance of promotion this year, next year or the year after - it will be more a case of looking over our shoulder in the years to come. The ownership have regressed the quality of this club year on year and that isn't just going to change over night.

Edited 51 minutes ago by S-Clarke

[John B]

9 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Even if a miracle takes place and we make the play offs and win, do you really think we won't endure another miserable season in the PL? 

We are better off building sensibly and regrouping this season. Getting rid of the problem people and consolidating the foundations.

That is much too sensible for some on here 

[benjii]

2 hours ago, goodymatt said:

He’s from Portsmouth I think, is a United fan though but you can see some anti-Saints bias creep out.

Sounds like a mega-cunt.

[benjii]

22 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Even if a miracle takes place and we make the play offs and win, do you really think we won't endure another miserable season in the PL? 

We are better off building sensibly and regrouping this season. Getting rid of the problem people and consolidating the foundations.

If the owners have learnt from last time and, instead of signing Champ-level players in droves, actually push the boat out for a proper CF, CB and CM then it might not be so ass.

[benjii]

12 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think under the current regime it would be another miserable experience. We need an entire gutting to be in a position to compete at any level I think.

I genuinely don't see any chance of promotion this year, next year or the year after - it will be more a case of looking over our shoulder in the years to come. The ownership have regressed the quality of this club year on year and that isn't just going to change over night.

If true, even more important to get promoted and get some cash through the door.

 

Edit: alternatively, hasten thee adminystrytion and banish Sports Heathens from our land.

Edited 39 minutes ago by benjii

[saintant]

15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Miserable, like the 3 promoted clubs right now?

Sunderland have what? 150% of our points total of last season...and that is before bonfire night!!

Sunderland recruited the right sort of players to compete in the Premier League and it has clearly worked for them so far. Until we start recruiting in a similar fashion we'll never survive among the elite. Men against boys springs to mind.

[Football Special]

2 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

We're 10 points off the playoffs with 99 points still to play for, anyone writing off this season is an idiot. 

Got to still give it a go of course.

But where will our goals come from? Sneak some 1-0 wins and get to January to recruit? 

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He is a fucking helmet. Stunning that he is some sort of made up football 'correspondent' on TalkSport.

When he has his segment about transfers or goings on, he fill the time as much as he can giving loads of fluff as his opinion, not what he apparently knows.

Remarkable rise from him, to be fair.  He lives around Southampton doesn't he?

my favourite one of his was when he said on twitter we had no interest in Charlie Austin, less than 24 hours later he signed. When i reminded him of it a while later he blocked me.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, Zorba said:

I’ve written it off and I am an idiot. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be preparing for next season with a bit of forethought.

Didn't we already do that last season ready for this season?

[Lighthouse]

39 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Even if a miracle takes place and we make the play offs and win, do you really think we won't endure another miserable season in the PL? 

We are better off building sensibly and regrouping this season. Getting rid of the problem people and consolidating the foundations.

People keep saying this and it never makes sense. We're going to have a massive uphill task recruiting for the PL whether it's next summer, the year after or in eight years time. If we don't go up this year, all that will happen is that better players like Leo will start wanting out when PL or foreign clubs start showing an interest.

How's Sheff United's second season going?

[imadirtyurchin]

44 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Even if a miracle takes place and we make the play offs and win, do you really think we won't endure another miserable season in the PL? 

We are better off building sensibly and regrouping this season. Getting rid of the problem people and consolidating the foundations.

See I would fear this - but it’s not a given. Strengthen the spine of the team: Ramsdale back, 2x CBs , 1xCM, 1x no. 9 and we’d be fine. We just need to make sure that we recruit to improve the first team not to bulk out the squad like last time. So it means probably £40m on a starting quality, physical number 9. £30m at least on the other positions. So £130m on 4xstarting players rather £160m or whatever it was on 11 crappy squad players who aren’t good enough.

whether we’d do it - and get it right is another matter.

[CamSaint]

14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

How's Sheff United's second season going?

I see that after all the fanfare surrounding Wilder's return, he has lost 5 of his 8 games back in charge (including losing to Saints). His 9 points from 8 games is very similar to Still's efforts, so I'm not sure he'll be feeling too comfortable there yet.