Saints 1-2 Hull - Match Thread

[Viking Saint]

47 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Tonda, post match with Blackmore....

Blackmore politely put it to him a little, and Tonda was adamant we had the stats to back up the right approach in the first half, and it is "all in" on Wednesday....said that a couple of times

 

• I am very frustrated, the stats say the game was in one direction, the result is the other
• We need to get our head up and go again
• The good thing is that we play twice this week and we go all in on Weds
• If you look at the whole game today, there were 2 moments where we gave away easy goals
• The game was clearly going in one direction but we never got the result
• We had Ross on the pitch at the end, we needed to find him quicker
• We tried to create 1-v-1s, but we need to get the ball to him quicker
• We pressed very high in the 1st half, then switched in the 2nd half, but it is about winning games
• We had an xG of 1.7 in the first half. I know people talk about this when you dont win
• We had more than enough chances to win
• Time to start winning football games. Today, play 9 out of 10 we win
• it is what it is, we have a chance to do it on Weds
• I have all of the faith to turn it around and we go for Weds and see how it goes
• Lets play Weds, we will go strong and then we can talk about ifs, buts and maybes
• I live and breathe this football club and will do everything to continue

 

Tonda - just fuck off

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Our club captain is so strong he got himself banned for 9 games last season for having shit for brains. Setting the standard.

Armstrong isn't any better. Watched him today, just trudging back to the centre circle after both the Hull goals. No trying to motivate the players or encouraging. He can fuck off at the end of the season for me.

[saints-til-i-die]

7 minutes ago, Viking Saint said:

Dragan  - give Cortese a ring

Semmens did better than this lot with no money tbf

[adrian lord]

54 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

The fact he mentions xG and stats says everything for me, he's a data driven analysts and that is why he's in position. Stats, stats, graphs, metrics. re-sale value for academy players. He's an absolute puppet and the above are just a load of soundbites he's read from his amazon 'how to be a football manager' guide.

Yep. Horrible corporate football, Wankernomics stylee. 

[Wade Garrett]

22 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Our club captain is so strong he got himself banned for 9 games last season for having shit for brains. Setting the standard.

Sorry, I meant manager.  Had a drink or two.

[Micky]

28 minutes ago, gallaghert366@yahoo.com said:

On current 'form' League 1 is inevitable.

On current 'form' league 1 is preferable, we may at least win a few games at that level. 

[Nieldy]

8 minutes ago, Micky said:

On current 'form' league 1 is preferable, we may at least win a few games at that level. 

Werent we saying that last season about the championship

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Make that into a Northam TIFO 

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Tonda, post match with Blackmore....

• I am very frustrated, the stats say the game was in one direction, the result is the other
• We need to get our head up and go again
• The good thing is that we play twice this week and we go all in on Weds
• If you look at the whole game today, there were 2 moments where we gave away easy goals
• The game was clearly going in one direction but we never got the result
• We had Ross on the pitch at the end, we needed to find him quicker
• We tried to create 1-v-1s, but we need to get the ball to him quicker
• We pressed very high in the 1st half, then switched in the 2nd half, but it is about winning games
• We had an xG of 1.7 in the first half. I know people talk about this when you dont win
• We had more than enough chances to win
• Time to start winning football games. Today, play 9 out of 10 we win
• it is what it is, we have a chance to do it on Weds
• I have all of the faith to turn it around and we go for Weds and see how it goes
• Lets play Weds, we will go strong and then we can talk about ifs, buts and maybes
• I live and breathe this football club and will do everything to continue

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Midfield_General

[EBS1980]

32 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Armstrong isn't any better. Watched him today, just trudging back to the centre circle after both the Hull goals. No trying to motivate the players or encouraging. He can fuck off at the end of the season for me.

There are no leaders in the team. Romeu could have been that but he’s nowhere to he seen.

arma isn’t a leader, maybe THB is the best of what we have?

[Football Special]

34 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Armstrong isn't any better. Watched him today, just trudging back to the centre circle after both the Hull goals. No trying to motivate the players or encouraging. He can fuck off at the end of the season for me.

I thought Armstrong looked really down today, I think he's had enough of the club and would like a move 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Bunch of cunts. I can’t believe there were nods actually clapping them at the end, dear god. The only bloke who looked like he was interested first half was Fellows. And I include “golden bollocks” Leo in that. Why he gets a free pass is beyond me, he’s as soft as the rest of them and gives the ball away regularly. I guess he rushes around looking like he cares & gives his shirt away at the end, so that’s ok.
 

Downes is a bottle job, and I don’t know who fucking “Arma” thinks he is. Apart from the odd one or two, they’re all arrogant entitled blaggers, I wish the lot of them would fuck off.

 

What summed it up was the reaction to the first goal, not one of them bollocked Manning, not one of them showed the slightest disappointment that they’d conceded such a soft goal (except perhaps the keeper). They couldn’t give a shiny shite about us or the club, they’re a fucking disgrace. 
 

 

[SaintsfanSwindon]

Just back from the match. Just a complete shambles. The club is broken. I was sat in the Kingsland and so many left after Hulls second goal and didn’t come back. We have to get a ‘proper’ experienced manager in now to give these players a big kick up the backside. Get in Tony Pulis and we at least go to Pompey and make a fight of it and avoid getting beat. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

5 minutes ago, SaintsfanSwindon said:

Get in Tony Pulis

Tony Pullis is done with football management, has no intention of going back in. That came from the horses mouth, when my mate met him last week. 

[lambtiss]

Back from the match and that was a hideous performance against an injury ravaged Hull side that still looked better organised, fitter and more passionate than us.

I then look at some of the talent we have in Fellows, Azaz and Scienza and the way, for example, they destroyed a Charlton side and pondered as to how we could look so utterly mediocre. 

Some thoughts

1) Bad, inflexible tactics.

2) Three CBs, none of whom can seemingly tackle, head the ball or mark anyone and retreat when anyone runs at them 

3) Shit full backs with no defensive ability or wing backs who then can't attack as they should 

4) Two good wingers, yet no number 9 who they can cross to (even when Stewart came on, he was inexplicably playing behind Armstrong).

5) A generally, light weight, feeble, non physical side that consistently get bullied off the ball. 

6) A manager, who's highest level of experience was as U21 manager for 3 months.

Why can't SR not see any of this. 

Edited 9 hours ago by lambtiss

[rallyboy]

And that halftime competition was as crap as the fucking game.

Bring back kids falling over.

[beatlesaint]

27 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

 

What summed it up was the reaction to the first goal, not one of them bollocked Manning, not one of them showed the slightest disappointment that they’d conceded such a soft goal (except perhaps the keeper). They couldn’t give a shiny shite about us or the club, they’re a fucking disgrace. 
 

 

Yeah to be fair to him after the first goal the keeper came out and went round to every defender trying to lift them. Once he gets used to what a complete pile of shit they are he won’t bother anymore !

What really summed these fkin cowards up for me was about 3 times within the space of 5 mins Harwood Bellend passed the ball square to Wood who passed it square to Quarshie and as he passed it Wood had the fkin audacity to point up the pitch more or less telling Quarshie to pass it forward. Niether of the bastards took any responsibility whatsoever, they just passed it to the young guy and left it to him to get the boos if he didn’t find a team mate.

Absolute bastards ! 

[saintant]

1 hour ago, saints-til-i-die said:

Semmens did better than this lot with no money tbf

Semmens is largely responsible for where we find ourselves. He was the one who brought SR to our door. Plus the crap he used to spout at the fans forums. Absolute charlatan.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

37 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I thought Armstrong looked really down today, I think he's had enough of the club and would like a move 

I've had enough of him. Fuck knows how he is the top goal scorer in the league. I lost all respect for him when he dud that interview after Still got sacked.

[Badger]

Anyone see who was in the Directors box today to see this display ? Rasmus, Spors, Dragan ? 

[saintant]

40 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I thought Armstrong looked really down today, I think he's had enough of the club and would like a move 

Poor lad, my heart bleeds for him. Maybe he should look around his mansion, check his assets or maybe glance at his bank statements or look at the motors in his garage - should cheer him up a bit. Might also make him feel a bit guilty and act as the leader he is meant to be starting with encouraging more effort on the training pitch.

[Badger]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

Semmens is largely responsible for where we find ourselves. He was the one who brought SR to our door. Plus the crap he used to spout at the fans forums. Absolute charlatan.

Tim-nice- but -dim.

His comment to the effect that results or league table didn’t matter was a sign where things were going.

Then he was the one who was credited with bollocksing up the striker deal in 2022. 
 

But him or Wasmus? Not sure who was more damaging .

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Badger

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I've had enough of him. Fuck knows how he is the top goal scorer in the league. I lost all respect for him when he dud that interview after Still got sacked.

He started the season playing crap. Had a purple patch before Tonda was made permanent and now he's gone back to playing crap again. He hides when things get tough like so many of them. 

He needs to be part of a big reset. 

[SaintsfanSwindon]

5 minutes ago, Badger said:

Anyone see who was in the Directors box today to see this display ? Rasmus, Spors, Dragan ? 

I did notice from where I was sat that whoever sat in the front row end chair didn’t come back for the second half. 

[AlexLaw76]

Is he protesting...or happy with the 2nd half?

 

[warsash saint]

Have to witness first hand at Fratton Park next Sunday this shower of shite inevitably bottle it or accept i have wasted near £60 & just take the dog out for a long walk instead????

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

16 minutes ago, saintant said:

Poor lad, my heart bleeds for him. Maybe he should look around his mansion, check his assets or maybe glance at his bank statements or look at the motors in his garage - should cheer him up a bit. Might also make him feel a bit guilty and act as the leader he is meant to be starting with encouraging more effort on the training pitch.

Agree, I wouldn't knowingly put a penny in any of their pockets.

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Tonda, post match with Blackmore....

Blackmore politely put it to him a little, and Tonda was adamant we had the stats to back up the right approach in the first half, and it is "all in" on Wednesday....said that a couple of times

 

• I am very frustrated, the stats say the game was in one direction, the result is the other
• We need to get our head up and go again
• The good thing is that we play twice this week and we go all in on Weds
• If you look at the whole game today, there were 2 moments where we gave away easy goals
• The game was clearly going in one direction but we never got the result
• We had Ross on the pitch at the end, we needed to find him quicker
• We tried to create 1-v-1s, but we need to get the ball to him quicker
• We pressed very high in the 1st half, then switched in the 2nd half, but it is about winning games
• We had an xG of 1.7 in the first half. I know people talk about this when you dont win
• We had more than enough chances to win
• Time to start winning football games. Today, play 9 out of 10 we win
• it is what it is, we have a chance to do it on Weds
• I have all of the faith to turn it around and we go for Weds and see how it goes
• Lets play Weds, we will go strong and then we can talk about ifs, buts and maybes
• I live and breathe this football club and will do everything to continue

 

Says everything you need to know about just how much of a clueless prick this bog eyed twat is.

Talks utter shit, just like the cretinous Ankerson does, all over seen by the money burning clown of an owner who is as stupid as as the rest of them

Edited 9 hours ago by tdmickey3

[Willo of Whiteley]

We had a chance to win many football matches over Christmas, Tonda. 
You and your team selections fucked it.

[Thripp87]

Yes Tonda is struggling, compounded by the stupid substitution of Fellows, the only one who had any credit today.

However, I am happy to abuse the players and Sports Republic, but Tonda isn’t really at fault.

He has just been over promoted, and that’s solely on the door of Spors and Sport Republic.

Next Sunday will be the final nail for Tonda I suspect, we lose that game so face it now. 

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Reckon the RM fanclub are too used to their days off and don't give a crap anyway as they've managed to get all the managers who've tried to get them to put in a shift fired. Put the shit stirrers in a bomb squad, honestly, it might hurt their resale value but relegation is going to do that anyway. Just get rid however you can, cut the cancer out of the club FFS.

We know who it is. 

THB 

Stephens 

Downes 

Armstrong 

Manning 

Every single one of them can fuck right off. I'd rather play the youth players than any of those cunts 

Peretz 

Jelert wood Quarshie Wellington 

Jander Sesay 

Azaz 

Fellows Scienza 

Stewart

Is a much better team. Ideally we'd get a striker and cb in but I doubt we will. 

Why on earth have we got a novice manager in and then not given him a very experienced assistant manager? It's just a bizarre way to run a club.

Edited 8 hours ago by hypochondriac

[SW11_Saint]

2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Armstrong isn't any better. Watched him today, just trudging back to the centre circle after both the Hull goals. No trying to motivate the players or encouraging. He can fuck off at the end of the season for me.

He’s the most useless, and ill-appointed, captain this club has ever had. Literally never opens his mouth. Ever. 

[SW11_Saint]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We know who it is. 

THB 

Stephens 

Downes 

Armstrong 

Manning 

Every single one of them can fuck right off. I'd rather play the youth players than any of those cunts 

Peretz 

Jelert wood Quarshie Wellington 

Jander Sesay 

Azaz 

Fellows Scienza 

Is a much better team. Ideally we'd get a striker and cb in but I doubt we will. 

Why on earth have we got a novice manager in and then not given him a very experienced assistant manager? It's just a bizarre way to run a club.

You’re missing a CF. 

[Gloucester Saint]

46 minutes ago, warsash saint said:

Have to witness first hand at Fratton Park next Sunday this shower of shite inevitably bottle it or accept i have wasted near £60 & just take the dog out for a long walk instead????

Treat yourself and the dog to a nice walk well away from fish territory. This channel has loads and Rob’s Hampshire Pub Walks is a good one.
You’ll be bussed past where you live twice on the bus, and have to drive Warsash to SMS twice again, all to watch several of Russell Martin’s mates not try a single leg for the shirt and have their island mutants celebrating as they score more goals than there are teeth in the Fratton End. That bell and trumpet to listen to as well…

If the players didn’t give any sort of shit in the home game, they’ll really not give a toss about competing at the rust shed. 2005 was bad enough, but this has potential to be a lot worse.

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Lee On Solent Saint]

5 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

He’s the most useless, and ill-appointed, captain this club has ever had. Literally never opens his mouth. Ever. 

I thought JWP was bad enough. Armstrong and Stephens take the shitness to a whole new level 

[LuckyNumber7]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

 

 

What summed it up was the reaction to the first goal, not one of them bollocked Manning, not one of them showed the slightest disappointment that they’d conceded such a soft goal (except perhaps the keeper). 

 

Yes I noticed this too. Not only was there no bollocking, but Manning and Quarshie actually shook hands as they were walking back as if to say 'ah well, you tried'. Thought that just summed everything up, they should have been going mad at each other. (Manning totally at fault btw, not Quarshie).

I will give some credit to THB today as I thought he was doing his best, he just looks so confused in a back 3. He gets a lot of stick on here but I do think it matters to him. Also fronted the Northam after the game despite a lot of booing. He should be captain imo.

Just don't know where we go. The whole club feels broken and I'm dreading next Sunday.

Edited 8 hours ago by LuckyNumber7

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

You’re missing a CF. 

Chuck Stewart in if not injured. Preferably a new signing.

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Yes I noticed this too. Not only was there no bollocking, but Manning and Quarshie actually shook hands as they were walking back as if to say 'ah well, you tried'. Thought that just summed everything up, they should have been going mad at each other. (Manning totally at fault btw, not Quarshie).

I will give some credit to THB today as I thought he was doing his best, he just looks so confused in a back 3. He gets a lot of stick on here but I do think it matters to him. Also fronted the Northam after the game despite a lot of booing. He should be captain imo.

Just don't know where we go. The whole club feels broken and I'm dreading next Sunday.

If that’s true, THB has to stand up against the formation (and I agree that he isn’t comfortable with 3 CBs) even if Tonda won’t rebel against Ankerson and organise at kick off so that one of the centre backs plays as a CDM anyway. If by some miracle they get a result no-one will notice. It’ll totally undermine Tonda but he’s only a 14 year old anyway so who cares. 
Sometimes leadership is about recognising that Tonda and AA can’t do their jobs and taking control. It’s what happened under Nathan Jones so form for this under SR and their selection of weak, piss poor managers.

Edited 8 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[saintant]

6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Chuck Stewart in if not injured. Preferably a new signing.

Is he Ross's brother?

[BarberSaint]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Tonda, post match with Blackmore....

Blackmore politely put it to him a little, and Tonda was adamant we had the stats to back up the right approach in the first half, and it is "all in" on Wednesday....said that a couple of times

 

• I am very frustrated, the stats say the game was in one direction, the result is the other
• We need to get our head up and go again
• The good thing is that we play twice this week and we go all in on Weds
• If you look at the whole game today, there were 2 moments where we gave away easy goals
• The game was clearly going in one direction but we never got the result
• We had Ross on the pitch at the end, we needed to find him quicker
• We tried to create 1-v-1s, but we need to get the ball to him quicker
• We pressed very high in the 1st half, then switched in the 2nd half, but it is about winning games
• We had an xG of 1.7 in the first half. I know people talk about this when you dont win
• We had more than enough chances to win
• Time to start winning football games. Today, play 9 out of 10 we win
• it is what it is, we have a chance to do it on Weds
• I have all of the faith to turn it around and we go for Weds and see how it goes
• Lets play Weds, we will go strong and then we can talk about ifs, buts and maybes
• I live and breathe this football club and will do everything to continue

 

Those stats were obviously sitting in a different seat to me (and those around me) where it was obvious we didn't work anywhere near as hard as a quite limited opposition team who turned out to be much better than us and pretty comfortable in the end and were largely shit and ineffective. We seem to have the knack of having bodies in the 'right' areas but they don't do much: stand and watch and not challenge or bust a gut to get back or look for a quick, early pass or pass back (we know who those cunts are) or ...

Yet again an exercise in frustration and annoyance and a very long day for no reward or enjoyment. 

Sports Republic get out of our club.

[BarberSaint]

3 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

The fact he mentions xG and stats says everything for me, he's a data driven analysts and that is why he's in position. Stats, stats, graphs, metrics. re-sale value for academy players. He's an absolute puppet and the above are just a load of soundbites he's read from his amazon 'how to be a football manager' guide.

Nah, it's what Still did at the end of his tenure when things were going South and he had those headlights full on him. It's a panic reaction like Nathan Jones started when he was the fittest man in Europe (by his own high, PE teacher standards).

[Sheaf Saint]

22 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

If that’s true, THB has to stand up against the formation (and I agree that he isn’t comfortable with 3 CBs) even if Tonda won’t rebel against Ankerson and organise at kick off so that one of the centre backs plays as a CDM anyway. 

I like your thinking, but then we'd just have Fellows at RB, which would just be even more stupid than playing him as a WB. 

[die Mannyschaft]

28 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Treat yourself and the dog to a nice walk well away from fish territory. This channel has loads and Rob’s Hampshire Pub Walks is a good one.
You’ll be bussed past where you live twice on the bus, and have to drive Warsash to SMS twice again, all to watch several of Russell Martin’s mates not try a single leg for the shirt and have their island mutants celebrating as they score more goals than there are teeth in the Fratton End. That bell and trumpet to listen to as well…

If the players didn’t give any sort of shit in the home game, they’ll really not give a toss about competing at the rust shed. 2005 was bad enough, but this has potential to be a lot worse.

 

the players didn’t give any sort of shit in the home game, they’ll really not give a toss about competing at the rust shed

Saints players have given and are just walking around like games are an exhibition match. We watched how bad they were at home to Pompey and Sunday will be the worst game in club's history. The manager and coaching staff have no idea how to counter teams or attack them. The players insist on doing what the manager dictates even though its obviously rubbish. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I like your thinking, but then we'd just have Fellows at RB, which would just be even more stupid than playing him as a WB. 

Bree has been training and playing regularly at Charlton, will he have returned by then?

[Forester]

5 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Trying to put RM in the same category as Tonda is embarrassing. People may not have liked him, called him legohead, claimed we should have won the league under him (even tho Marseca and Leicester were far superior), claimed that most of the problems we have now are his fault 😂. End of the day he got us promoted and gave us a great day at Wembley, which still annoys some of our fans bizarrely. In comparison Tonda has us sitting 16th (for now) and heading for a hiding against the skates next week

I agree that Tonda is not good enough.  But just compare the side Martin had to manage.  Bednarek, KWP, Stuart Armstrong, a fit and motivated Aribo and Adams.  We totally lack that experience and nous.

[cambsaint]

If that dismal result doesn't get SR bringing in a hard CB and a tall hard CF in an emergency then nothing will and the club is a basket case

 

[rooney]

We have tried different managers but the players  keep serving up these poor performances season after season. Time for a complete rethink on playing personnel which may mean going down again to come back stronger in a few seasons.

[leeham_69]

Only just watched the extended highlights. 3 main takeaways for me were:

1. Manning is shit

2. How the fk have we not scored some of those chances

3. Jo Tessem saying when Stewart scores "Finally, someone gets in front of or behind a defender!"

[BARCELONASAINT]

I wasn't looking forward to the game before yesterday and to be honest if it wasn't for the fact it was the last chance to see my eldest son before he returned to Venezuela tomorrow i would not have bought tickets for the game.

By half time i just wanted to leave and would have done had it not been for my son.

I'm just so angry by the complete lack of effort by the players, their spineless performances every week, not one of them a leader on the pitch, barely any of them willing to take their player on (Fellows and Leo aside). Tonda with his pathetic tactics, his clueless subs, wtf was he doing taking Fellows off yesterday. We are sleep walking towards relegation mark my words because we have absolutely no fight in us, we were a beaten side the moment the first goal went in. I have never seen a team react so negatively to conceding a goal, where were the leaders in the team geeing up players??? Only the new goalkeeper tried to rally the players, it was utterly pathetic.

[Hamwic]

The current fashion of appointing a head coach rather than a manager is the cause of such malaise. On the whole they are not man managers, leaving the players rudderless. They also have little or no control over signings. Add to that the fact we have no real leadership on the pitch and you have much of the real reasons we are in our current situation.