James Ward-Prowse

[East Kent Saint]

Only Motd but hardly saw JWP in the match apart from taking a corner or getting hit on the arm by the ball. When I saw him against his teammates he looked tiny !

[AlexLaw76]

Karen Brady on the radio this morning talking all things West Ham. Stated that JwP was the No.1 target very early for their manager, and Moyes is the one who identifies players with his team and scouts and then the discussions start. She also suggested that Saints wanted A LOT for JwP and it was Saints who contacted West Ham and made the deal (by lowering their demands upfront and overall).

 

On the flip side, Semmens on the radio the other night stated that with Ralph, the manager did NOT have the final say on transfers as he was just part of the committee....which I found strange.

Edited 3 September, 2023 by AlexLaw76

[Saint_clark]

Currently joint top for assists so far as well.

[Saint86]

We let him go too cheap. Was said at the time and it's becoming more obvious with every passing game. I just hope he gets his England place, but I think that needs a Southgate sacking (which should have happened after the Croatia wc semi anyway). 

[Sussex_saint]

The fact that players like Henderson, Maguire and Philips get picked but Ward Prowse doesn’t is unbelievable. Southgate’s team selections are shit

Edited 4 September, 2023 by Sussex_saint

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, Sussex_saint said:

The fact that players like Henderson and Philips get picked but Ward Prowse doesn’t is unbelievable. Southgate’s team selections are shit

Southgate all over isn't it. Safe.

[Convict Colony]

He basically picks anyone whose given him a reach around.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Southgate has his favourites. He ignored Danny Ings when he was scoring 20 plus goals in an average team and he again chooses to ignore JWP.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

3 hours ago, Saint86 said:

We let him go too cheap. Was said at the time and it's becoming more obvious with every passing game. I just hope he gets his England place, but I think that needs a Southgate sacking (which should have happened after the Croatia wc semi anyway). 

Heard him referred to as the "Bargain of the Transfer Window" and while there's that nagging feeling we let him go too cheap, Downes coming to us was probably also part of the deal. Bit like Maddison also looking good at Spurs. Play with players who can putt away your passes/crosses/corners and you look a whole lot better.

[Master Bates]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

He basically picks anyone whose given him a reach around.

False, otherwise I'd have been picked by now.

[Saint_clark]

4 hours ago, Saint86 said:

We let him go too cheap. Was said at the time and it's becoming more obvious with every passing game. I just hope he gets his England place, but I think that needs a Southgate sacking (which should have happened after the Croatia wc semi anyway). 

We got to a Euros final after that..?

[Guest]

[johnnyboy]

Just scored against city , sorely missed by me 😔

[LeBizzier69]

The new media love-in for him frankly gets right on my tits.

[OttawaSaint]

3 minutes ago, johnnyboy said:

Just scored against city , sorely missed by me 😔

Yep. He's brilliant when he has a manager that knows proper tactics. 

[CB Fry]

9 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

The new media love-in for him frankly gets right on my tits.

It's not the new, though is it?

He's been a media darling for half a decade. Every time we won a free kick commentators would go into raptures, and the media have massively over egged his contribution from corners for ever.

[Master Bates]

16 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

The new media love-in for him frankly gets right on my tits.

Wtf?

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[Saint86]

£27M. 3 years left, club captain, best player, plays every minute of every game for basically 3 seasons consecutively (bar that Chelsea red)... Such bad business by us. 

 

Edited 16 September, 2023 by Saint86

[OttawaSaint]

12 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

£27M. 3 years left, club captain, best player, plays every minute of every game for basically 3 seasons consecutively (bar that Chelsea red)... Such bad business by us. 

 

Then when you factor in that we paid £22M for Kamel, £18M for Paul, £20M for Carillo. 

 

Mugged!

 

Well done SR!

[Saint_clark]

Son in law, academy poster boy something something, only passes sideways and backwards etc. 

[Ted Bates Statue]

Are we still happy we got relegated, getting rid of dross like JWP and not getting thrashed by Champions League sides every week?

[niceandfriendly]

15 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Are we still happy we got relegated, getting rid of dross like JWP and not getting thrashed by Champions League sides every week?

We’ll get thrashed whichever league we’re in. We are Southampton. We don’t buy getting tonked, we breed it. 

[East Kent Saint]

Yet another JWP goal ! No points though .

[Master Bates]

1 hour ago, OttawaSaint said:

Then when you factor in that we paid £22M for Kamel, £18M for Paul, £20M for Carillo. 

 

Mugged!

 

Well done SR!

Nowt to do with Sir Rickie, he's too busy in a 3 way conversation with MLT and a glass of water.

[Saint_clark]

43 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Nowt to do with Sir Rickie, he's too busy in a 3 way conversation with MLT and a glass of water.

Bottle of water mate, can't trust the stuff that comes out of taps.

[niceandfriendly]

54 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Nowt to do with Sir Rickie, he's too busy in a 3 way conversation with MLT and a glass of water.

And wondering what satellites are. 

[LeBizzier69]

2 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Wtf?

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I can repeat it if you want me to?

[LeBizzier69]

44 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I can repeat it if you want me to?

I will clarify in case it’s needed. It just grates that all the plaudits (or far more than when he was our player) etc come now he’s moved to WH. 
I find that unbelievably annoying. Suppose was inevitable though.

[CB Fry]

56 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I will clarify in case it’s needed. It just grates that all the plaudits (or far more than when he was our player) etc come now he’s moved to WH. 
I find that unbelievably annoying. Suppose was inevitable though.

Except its not true. He was constantly praised by the media for years and years. Every time we won a free kick, pretty much every time we won a corner and he trotted over to take it.

He's been a blue eyed boy to commentators and pundits for years and years and years.

[LeBizzier69]

27 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Except its not true. He was constantly praised by the media for years and years. Every time we won a free kick, pretty much every time we won a corner and he trotted over to take it.

He's been a blue eyed boy to commentators and pundits for years and years and years.

There are people clamouring for England call ups that simply weren’t before.

He was being lauded on Sky the other day like he wasn’t before.

yes he’s had some plaudits but not to the level it is no. Even Rio Ferdinand has jumped on the bandwagon.

The narrative was always “if he was that good he’d have snapped up by now”. Not anymore.

Happy to admit it might be the booze talking and I’m probably just bitter still!

Edited 16 September, 2023 by LeBizzier69
Booze

[verlaine1979]

5 hours ago, LeBizzier69 said:

There are people clamouring for England call ups that simply weren’t before.

He was being lauded on Sky the other day like he wasn’t before.

yes he’s had some plaudits but not to the level it is no. Even Rio Ferdinand has jumped on the bandwagon.

The narrative was always “if he was that good he’d have snapped up by now”. Not anymore.

Happy to admit it might be the booze talking and I’m probably just bitter still!

If you're looking at it as a neutral, he looks like a player completely rejuvenated by moving to a better side. Seems to have at least and assist or a goal per game at the moment? He never got anything like that attacking consistency for us.

[East Kent Saint]

His goal a diving header , is that a first ?

[Behind Enemy Lines]

22 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

His goal a diving header , is that a first ?

No, I’ve seen loads of people score diving headers before 😂 

[Saint_clark]

32 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

His goal a diving header , is that a first ?

Watching him score that goal I was reminded of years ago, maybe 2014ish, when I posted on here saying that I could see him emulating Frank Lampard as a goalscoring midfielder with excellent awareness of what's around him, timing runs into the box with perfection and getting himself plenty of goals. I was ridiculed at the time and over the years I accepted that I was probably wrong, but it seems as if we were wasting his talents this entire time and he is indeed a Lampard type midfielder. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

How depressing that this thread is still going strong (yes, I realise I’ve added to it!). It’s a bit sad that JWP seems to represent the pinnacle of what we’ve lost in player quality and a sure sign of how far we’ve fallen.

[CB Fry]

12 hours ago, LeBizzier69 said:

There are people clamouring for England call ups that simply weren’t before.

He was being lauded on Sky the other day like he wasn’t before.

yes he’s had some plaudits but not to the level it is no. Even Rio Ferdinand has jumped on the bandwagon.

The narrative was always “if he was that good he’d have snapped up by now”. Not anymore.

Happy to admit it might be the booze talking and I’m probably just bitter still!

I don't believe any mainstream front line commentator or pundit has ever said anything like "if he was that good he'd been snapped up by now".

He's had an excellent start at his new club and that's an interesting angle, that's all.

[david in sweden]

12 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Except its not true. He was constantly praised by the media for years and years. Every time we won a free kick, pretty much every time we won a corner and he trotted over to take it.

He's been a blue eyed boy to commentators and pundits for years and years and years.

I agree  that many pundits / former players were quick to praise him (except Southgate who regularly ignored him for England)  but what was most

annoying for me was that vociferous band of  "Saints fans "  who continually came on line and criticised him for doing " nothing special"....except

maybe scoring those free kicks and the occasional penalty, when there was a group of  " fan favourites " who contributed much less to the team's efforts.

 

Now that he's playing for ..." a London Club "..and drawing M.o.M awards nearly every game - just how is he performing any differently ?.   

Right now we can clearly see what he brought to the Saints' overall team performances.    There's a huge hole in midfield where he used to play.

[LeBizzier69]

12 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I don't believe any mainstream front line commentator or pundit has ever said anything like "if he was that good he'd been snapped up by now".

He's had an excellent start at his new club and that's an interesting angle, that's all.

Sadly i can't remember who it was, but it was discussed on TalkSport (i'm pretty sure by someone a year or two ago.....if i can find the link i'll post it.)

Whether you consider the Danny Murphy's of this world as frontline commentator or pundits is up to you.

The argument being that at his age (late 20's) if he'd been such a standout player why wasn't he being linked with big clubs. In fact, he wasn't being linked with any big clubs this time around was he? You know what i mean by big club - without shouting West Ham stats at me.

Also, if you actually look back at his career at Saints it's really only the last 2 years he's looked like a danger from set pieces, and for much of his career he didn't really have a defined position. 

I'm delighted for him, and gutted he's not with us - but he's not been a stellar performer for us up until the last few years.

[Saint86]

Another 2 assists...

[spyinthesky]

West Ham fans reckon he is the signing of the season and just think that quite a few of our fans didnt rate him!!

[obelisk]

JWP always looked better when playing further forward. Saints seem to make a habit of making good players look average.

[SW11_Saint]

Always thought his corners were a bit crap for us, but perhaps it was just those who were in the box waiting for the cross?

[northam soul]

6 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

Always thought his corners were a bit crap for us, but perhaps it was just those who were in the box waiting for the cross?

The only times I remember us scoring from his corners are a couple of Bednarek glancing headers at the near post.

It just shows how shit we have been and still are at attacking the ball in the air.

The Ipswich game was just heading practice for their centre backs from our corners.

[HarvSFC]

Despite his height I think Vestergaard must have won a handful of aerial balls during his time here. He was awful in the air considering. Then you had Salisu, who had a 50p head in terms of attacking the ball. He was also awful in the air.

[Barsiem]

Kudos to west ham for utilising him properly.  He's probably a bit more relaxed and able to focus on his football without dealing with the sh*show here, as well as not having the captaincy currently 

[tdmickey3]

8 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

West Ham fans reckon he is the signing of the season and just think that quite a few of our fans didnt rate him!!

Yep, excellent business by them at a stupidly saints style cut price, utter clowns running our club into obscurity

Edited 22 September, 2023 by tdmickey3

[Toussaint]

On 21/04/2023 at 22:28, harvey said:

Tbh I look forward to his departure, apart from his free kicks I think he's massively overrated and one of the reasons where we are where we are.

Definitely well rid. We’re building something special now without the JWP millstone round our necks, what’s especially good is how we mugged off West Ham.

[Block41 Saint]

Looks like they've had our pants down at £30m. 

[Sunglasses Ron]

37 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Definitely well rid. We’re building something special now without the JWP millstone round our necks, what’s especially good is how we mugged off West Ham.

Yeah, imagine if we hadn't sold and still had to endure him in midfield alongside that Spanish guy who's "legs have gone".

We'd be in a right mess I tell you.

[Toussaint]

19 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Yeah, imagine if we hadn't sold and still had to endure him in midfield alongside that Spanish guy who's "legs have gone".

We'd be in a right mess I tell you.

I know, we fans are so superficial and in the moment, thank god we have Rambo at the helm who is Cleary light years ahead of us in his thinking.