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    We'll probably swap him for one of their Moroccan Norwegians. We're rumoured to be interested in Omar Elabdellaoui. The other one, Tarik Elyounoussi, has been on loan to Qarabağ, so they might try to offload him onto us as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    The problem with this is value. Fans also lack pragmatism and expect much more than what we sell for, not that that is hugely relevant.

    So he cost £19m on a 3½ year deal. You can look at things in anyway you want, but I view it that with 2 years left, that's £10.85m worth remaining. Being pragmatic, and accept a loss to shift him on, and maybe accept £8m?
    not sure Saints fans expect to get anything for him at all. If we sold him this summer for £5m, I doubt anyone would moan that it wasn't enough. We'd moan about the waste, not the current value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    We'll probably swap him for one of their Moroccan Norwegians. We're rumoured to be interested in Omar Elabdellaoui. The other one, Tarik Elyounoussi, has been on loan to Qarabağ, so they might try to offload him onto us as well.
    Better idea. If they are collecting Moroccan Norwegians we've got one they could add to complete the set. At a price of course.

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    The skeptic in me thinks they are probably only interested in paying a loan fee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    The skeptic in me thinks they are probably only interested in paying a loan fee
    I'm not sure they could afford one. They're a Greek league team. They get most of their players on free transfers or for a few hundred thousand. The biggest fee they paid for a player last year was 2 mill.


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    Its all mumbo jumbo, What does it all mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    Its all mumbo jumbo, What does it all mean?
    It says that Boca has their eyes on Guido after spending a year on loan at Leganes, that he is our most expensive signing and that he lost his place towards the end of the season with Leganes.
    He is at the moment on holiday in Ibiza with friends including Radamel Falcao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    Its all mumbo jumbo, What does it all mean?
    Boca Juniors sent scouts, but he is too expensive.

    Looking at their record spend... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/club...rde/verein/189 .. they're not going to make a proper bid. However, if we can get £10m for him, I'd take it. Signed for €20m on 3.5 years and 2 years remaining, which is a tad under €11.5m (or £10m ish). TBH I would let him go for £8m and cut our losses putting it down to a hugely expensive error in letting the ex manager sign him.

    But maybe the lure of Boca will overcome the loss in wages, so who knows, maybe it will work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    Boca Juniors sent scouts, but he is too expensive.

    Looking at their record spend... https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/club...rde/verein/189 .. they're not going to make a proper bid. However, if we can get £10m for him, I'd take it. Signed for €20m on 3.5 years and 2 years remaining, which is a tad under €11.5m (or £10m ish). TBH I would let him go for £8m and cut our losses putting it down to a hugely expensive error in letting the ex manager sign him.

    But maybe the lure of Boca will overcome the loss in wages, so who knows, maybe it will work.
    Didn't Krueger say back in January that Carrillo was one of the players that Ralph would be defiantley taking a look at in pre-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davefizzy14 View Post
    Didn't Krueger say back in January that Carrillo was one of the players that Ralph would be defiantley taking a look at in pre-season.
    Probably just trying to put a positive spin on the fact that it will be very hard to shift him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Probably just trying to put a positive spin on the fact that it will be very hard to shift him.
    This. We will probably find a loan move for him. Subsidised wages of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Probably just trying to put a positive spin on the fact that it will be very hard to shift him.
    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17...illo-a-chance/

    There it is the link.

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    Un-surprising news from Spain -- Nobody want to pay any money for Carrillo.

    It’s not too unkind to say Guido Carrillo may go down as one of Southampton’s worst signings of recent years.

    The Premier League club signed the striker from AS Monaco in the 2018 winter transfer window. They did so to please then manager Mauricio Pellegrino.

    Monaco must have thought their luck had come in when Southampton paid around €20m for the player, despite his scoring record not being at all impressive with the French principality club.

    Things didn’t improve with the Saints and when Pellegrino went it was only a matter of time before Carrillo followed him. That he did, literally.

    With the manager taking over at Leganes, the Spanish club loaned the Argentine for last season. He played 33 matches and scored six goals.

    AS report Leganes have asked Southampton for another loan, but there’s some competition for the player. Other La Liga clubs are keen, and Boca Juniors have also been linked, so there could be a battle ahead.

    A permanent transfer is ‘almost discarded’ by Leganes.

    Southampton would surely want to see the back of their player completely, if they send him on loan for a season he’ll return being 29 years of age and with a year of contract left… not the nest bargaining position.
    Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-ask-s...-battle-ahead/

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    Complete joke of a transfer, such a waste of funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    Complete joke of a transfer, such a waste of funds.
    Awful and to please a manager that was completely unsuitable for Premier League football. No way to disguise it.

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    Double Carrillo update today. This time linked with a swap deal for Mady Camara (22 year old Defensive midfielder, linked with Newcastle & Watford recently).

    Speculative at best.

    According to a claim in the Greek media, Olympiacos are interested in signing Southampton striker Guido Carillo, which could see their midfielder Mady Camara heading the other way.

    It’s been reported by Sdna.Gr Southampton were following Camara throughout last season and will continue to watch him during the upcoming African Cup of Nations. There have been no reports if the Premier League side are lining up an offer for the Guinea international.

    Camara has previously been linked with a move to fellow Premier League side Watford after reports he’s seen as a possible successor to Abdoulaye Doucoure.

    Sdna.Gr also say Olympicaos are interested in signing Carillo from Southampton on a loan deal. The Argentine spent last season on loan with La Liga side Leganes, under former Saints manager Mauricio Pellegrino.

    They want him back on loan, and there’s interest elsewhere in Spain as well as at Boca Juniors.

    Should Southampton interest in Camara be strong then it’s a good way to solve the Carrillo problem, if he’d agree to a move to Greece.
    Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampto...orward-go-way/
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    Quote Originally Posted by skintsaint View Post
    Complete joke of a transfer, such a waste of funds.
    And the death knell for Dr Bunsen Honeydew too....

    The whole thing was a shambles from start to finish. The worst thing we have done in my living memory.. Even Ali Dia did not cost us much, but this lunatic decision is our record transfer FFS..

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    Yeh I think it was the transfer that sealed Les' fate, to sign such an average at best striker as a record transfer is just gross incompetence, if the guy was 22 maybe you could argue there was some potential there but he was basically at his peak and proven to be mediocre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    Yeh I think it was the transfer that sealed Les' fate, to sign such an average at best striker as a record transfer is just gross incompetence, if the guy was 22 maybe you could argue there was some potential there but he was basically at his peak and proven to be mediocre.
    Should of culled WW Wilson too. How the **** is he still here, and been promoted!! W.T.F
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    The worst transfer i can remember in my lifetime, and i'm old enough to remember Dixon and Speedie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    The worst transfer i can remember in my lifetime, and i'm old enough to remember Dixon and Speedie.
    Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeG View Post
    Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares.
    Good lord... I’d banished that one years ago until you just mentioned it!

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    Vegard Forren

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfp1 View Post
    Vegard Forren
    Safir Taider

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    Safir Taider
    Lee Todd

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    Safir Taider
    It was a loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeG View Post
    Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares.
    That was slightly out of our hands though, we needed the cash to stave off admin (which happened anyway in the end) and Levy f*cked us hard and without lube because we couldn't say no. Also lets not forget Redknapp almost sold him to Birmingham in his first season there, and if he had no one would even be talking about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faz View Post
    Lee Todd
    Lee Todd was god awful, the worst player i've ever seen wear our shirt by some distance, but at least he played some games (badly, very, very badly), didn't cost that much and wasn't a replacement for Alan Shearer. Nor did Dave Jones say he'd score more goals in a season than Shearer would in the rest of his career, like Ian F*cking Branfoot did about Dixon and Speedie

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfp1 View Post
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    Yeah that was an odd one.

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    Anthony Pulis was way overpriced as a free transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfp1 View Post
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    He was cheap and worth a risk. Wasn't he half the price of Gardos?

    Awful signings are the ones that stop you having money for anyone else. Carrillo showed that we weren't tight, we were just incompetent. Panic signing a striker to save Pellegrino's job is the most ridiculous decision I've seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    He was cheap and worth a risk. Wasn't he half the price of Gardos?

    Awful signings are the ones that stop you having money for anyone else. Carrillo showed that we weren't tight, we were just incompetent. Panic signing a striker to save Pellegrino's job is the most ridiculous decision I've seen.
    You’re right. Carrillo really was a terrible signing & trumps all others.

    Massive chunk of the VvD cash gone straight away for a manager who was sacked soon after.

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    Carrillo was/is terrible.
    Absolutely NOTHING about him suggested he would be anything other than an abject failure of a signing.

    It was quite weird when a few on here flipped his games/goals stats around to claim he had a good scoring record. I remember CB Fry having fun with that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    You’re right. Carrillo really was a terrible signing & trumps all others.

    Massive chunk of the VvD cash gone straight away for a manager who was sacked soon after.
    Giving the manager the money was a big mistake. Its not even hindsight saying that. We all saw MP was struggling, and we all saw GC's stats. Monaco took our pants down on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    Giving the manager the money was a big mistake. Its not even hindsight saying that. We all saw MP was struggling, and we all saw GC's stats. Monaco took our pants down on that one.
    Buying players in Jan is pretty much a mistake.

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    Jesus we've made made some fekin clangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Billy View Post
    Jesus we've made made some fekin clangers.
    Show me a club that hasn’t but yes In this case it was obvious from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Carrillo was/is terrible.
    Absolutely NOTHING about him suggested he would be anything other than an abject failure of a signing.

    It was quite weird when a few on here flipped his games/goals stats around to claim he had a good scoring record. I remember CB Fry having fun with that one
    Goal every other game mate. FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    He was cheap and worth a risk. Wasn't he half the price of Gardos?

    Awful signings are the ones that stop you having money for anyone else. Carrillo showed that we weren't tight, we were just incompetent. Panic signing a striker to save Pellegrino's job is the most ridiculous decision I've seen.
    I'm with you. 15 goals in 65 appearances at Monaco. What on earth made the club think he was worth spending £19m on? Absolute ****ing madness. Monaco didn't even really want him. Loan with view to buy...simples. Woeful negotiating, woeful decision making, woeful management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chez View Post
    I'm with you. 15 goals in 65 appearances at Monaco. What on earth made the club think he was worth spending £19m on? Absolute ****ing madness. Monaco didn't even really want him. Loan with view to buy...simples. Woeful negotiating, woeful decision making, woeful management.
    I recall most of his goals were in cup as well against lower sides, im sure he got 3 or 4 in 1 game just b4 we signed him

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeG View Post
    Let's not forget swapping Bales add ons and sell on % for Tommy Forecast. Still gives me nightmares.
    I’m pretty sure there was also money involved in that which stopped us from going into admin for a few more months. It’s easy to criticise in hindsight but I think Lowe was just doing whatever it took to keep the club afloat. It’s not as if we were desperate for a keeper, he was just a makeweight.

    To think we used to believe Gaston was a poor signing when he cost £12m and ‘only’ got about 6 goals in his first season. He’d get our golden boot these days.

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    What about this DM in exchange? Any good?

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    We were desperate and it showed. We thought he'd be a Pelle but evidently not.

    I'm still convinced that with a better manager than Pellegrino (the worst Premier League manager we've ever had) he can be a useful player for us. But I wouldn't blame us if we decided to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    What about this DM in exchange? Any good?
    There’s almost no chance of us swapping him for a good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    Lee Todd was god awful, the worst player i've ever seen wear our shirt by some distance, but at least he played some games (badly, very, very badly), didn't cost that much and wasn't a replacement for Alan Shearer.
    My friend, you obviously never saw Mr.Fifty Pence Head Calum Davenport play.

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    Or the talented Stuart Ripley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooney View Post
    Or the talented Stuart Ripley.
    While we’re on stupendously ****e wingers - Neil McCann

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    There’s almost no chance of us swapping him for a good player.
    How about for a poor player? That would be an upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    We were desperate and it showed. We thought he'd be a Pelle but evidently not.

    I'm still convinced that with a better manager than Pellegrino (the worst Premier League manager we've ever had) he can be a useful player for us. But I wouldn't blame us if we decided to sell.
    Why are you convinced about that? He looked awful when he played for us, his career prior to us basically said he would flop here. One of the worst signings the Premier League has ever seen for the money we spent on him.

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    I'll never forget being at Wigan for his 'performance' up there in the cup. We should have made him walk home after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swannymere View Post
    My friend, you obviously never saw Mr.Fifty Pence Head Calum Davenport play.
    I've been going since 84, had a season ticket since the mid 90s and do in the region of 15-18 aways a season. I saw Davenport, you clearly didn't see Todd. He's the only player i've ever seen another professional footballer take pity on during a game. Away to Arsenal Henry skinned him so many times, and made him look so bad, he actually apologised to him. The guy is hands down the worst player Saints have ever had in my lifetime (and i was there the day of the Ali Dia game)

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