The9 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Here we go (Shots, Shots on target [sOT]) pG=per game. Goals Team 11 Manchester City 11 Leicester 11 West Ham 8 Norwich 8 Crystal Palace 8 Everton 7 Chelsea 7 Swansea 6 Manchester United 6 Aston Villa 6 Bournemouth 6 Sunderland 5 Arsenal 5 Southampton 4 Tottenham 3 Watford 3 Liverpool 3 West Bromwich Albion 3 Stoke 2 Newcastle United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 (edited) Just fixing the data! Goals, Shots, Shots On Target, Shots per game, Shots On target per game, Shots per goal, Shots On target per Goal, Team R Team Goals Shots SOT Spg SOTpg SpGl SOTpGl 13 West Ham 11 57 19 11.4 3.8 5.18 1.73 West Ham 8 Leicester 11 67 23 13.4 4.6 6.09 2.09 Leicester 19 Sunderland 6 46 14 9.2 2.8 7.67 2.33 Sunderland 17 Bournemouth 6 51 15 10.2 3 8.50 2.50 Bournemouth 14 Aston Villa 6 55 16 11 3.2 9.17 2.67 Aston Villa 16 Everton 8 52 22 10.4 4.4 6.50 2.75 Everton 6 Norwich 8 73 24 14.6 4.8 9.13 3.00 Norwich 11 Crystal Palace 8 61 24 12.2 4.8 7.63 3.00 Crystal Palace 12 Manchester Utd 6 58 18 11.6 3.6 9.67 3.00 Manchester United 4 Chelsea 7 77 22 15.4 4.4 11.00 3.14 Chelsea 2 Manchester City 11 93 36 18.6 7.2 8.45 3.27 Manchester City 7 Swansea 7 73 32 14.6 6.4 10.43 4.57 Swansea 15 West Brom 3 53 14 10.6 2.8 17.67 4.67 West Bromwich Albion 3 Southampton 5 83 25 16.6 5 16.60 5.00 Southampton 20 Newcastle 2 35 10 7 2 17.50 5.00 Newcastle United 9 Watford 3 64 16 12.8 3.2 21.33 5.33 Watford 18 Stoke 3 49 17 9.8 3.4 16.33 5.67 Stoke 10 Liverpool 3 62 18 12.4 3.6 20.67 6.00 Liverpool 5 Tottenham 4 76 27 15.2 5.4 19.00 6.75 Tottenham 1 Arsenal 5 112 39 22.4 7.8 22.40 7.80 Arsenal Edited 16 September, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Hang on, West Ham score with just about every shot they have on goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 (edited) Hang on' date=' West Ham score with just about every shot they have on goal [/quote'] 1 in Every 1.73 shots on target is a goal for them, 5.18 shots for every goal though. Ours is 1:5 of the shots on target and 1:16.6 of all shots. That says that West Ham's ALL shots conversion percentage is about the same as our ON TARGET shots percentage, which is mental - but we're still better than Watford, Stoke, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal at converting chances... figures will be above in a mo. Edited 16 September, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Let me re-sort and re-present the data. Ah I see - so basically we have 5 shots on target per game but we only score every 3.5 shots on target. Which means at this rate we're good for a goal a game on average - lets hope we don't win any games by anything other than 1-0 It's annoying that there are a multitude of other teams who create less chances (or have less shots on target) and yet are more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Newcastle appear to have problems making shots happen. Scored all their goals against us nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 This is a little off-topic, I may create a new post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 This is a little off-topic, I may create a new post. It's worth it, because the other thing to consider in all this is whether we create a lot of chances because of the good players we have (yet they are not good finishers) and other teams create less because they have players who aren't as good but are better finishers. And of course the best teams have the players who create and finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Appropriate for a Man U thread after the times we've failed to convert chances and lost to Man U from them scoring from a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 They aren't too confident according to the Redcafe, I don't know why as they always get a lucky win at our place (note to Jose please look before passing back and Martin feel free to come and claim crossed balls into the 6yrd box) http://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.60/discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 They aren't too confident according to the Redcafe, I don't know why as they always get a lucky win at our place (note to Jose please look before passing back and Martin feel free to come and claim crossed balls into the 6yrd box) http://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.60/discussion Amazing that given our form so far this season some of them think we are going to win. Can see another 0-0 goalfest with their limited striker options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 we are at home Pelle will score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Really looking forward to this one. Had to watch the Norwich game on the telly in Corfu so can't wait to be back at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 They seem to think we're as good as the last few seasons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Stekelenburg Cedric Fonte VVD Targett Wanyama Romeu Davis Mane Tadic Pelle Swap Bertrand and Clasie into that and we're really motoring Think we'll lose this one 2-1 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 They seem to think we're as good as the last few seasons.... Don't they realise that we sold Morgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 So Blind at left back I guess? Disrupts the whole defence, maybe Rojo in. We can get at them. Hope he leaves Schneiderlin out again, that'd help. Schneiderlin will no doubt be keen to score against us, as he will be desperate for a chance to "not celebrate", an accolade on par with the goal itself in the modern footballer's eyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Schneiderlin will no doubt be keen to score against us, as he will be desperate for a chance to "not celebrate", an accolade on par with the goal itself in the modern footballer's eyes... If he even plays, LvG seems to have gone off him for some reason or other, unless of course the vicious kick that he took against the Serbs has had some sort of sequel that hampers him in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Although guess Koeman might be weird and not play Romeu at all, could be Davis and JWP again, which I'd happily never have in the same starting 11 again. You're right, it would be terrible to have them in the starting XI together again like we did with Norwich, I mean that was a disaster wasn't it. Must admit though I cannot see any justification for playing JWP when we have Romeu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Please no one sing "Do you come from Manchester" or "We support our local team". UTD have probably the biggest (and loudest) away following in the premier league and most of them do actually travel down from Manchester! It's cringe worthy and small time. Are you the supporter supervisor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 They will exploit targett for sure. I think if depay/mata (not sure who plays on the right these days) have a stormer then we're doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Please no one sing "Do you come from Manchester" or "We support our local team". UTD have probably the biggest (and loudest) away following in the premier league and most of them do actually travel down from Manchester! It's cringe worthy and small time. I'll be singing and booing what I like ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Any chance of Bertrand back for this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Any chance of Bertrand back for this one? Wishful thinking. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Please no one sing "Do you come from Manchester" or "We support our local team". UTD have probably the biggest (and loudest) away following in the premier league and most of them do actually travel down from Manchester! It's cringe worthy and small time. Not as Cringe worthy as telling other people what they can and can't do at the football................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Please no one sing "Do you come from Manchester" or "We support our local team". UTD have probably the biggest (and loudest) away following in the premier league and most of them do actually travel down from Manchester! It's cringe worthy and small time. About as cringe worthy and small time as fawning over another club's supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy clapper Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 There was a time when I dreaded seeing that Mark Clattenburg was going to be our ref. Now he seems to be one of the better ones! I'd settle for a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Please no one sing "Do you come from Manchester" or "We support our local team". UTD have probably the biggest (and loudest) away following in the premier league and most of them do actually travel down from Manchester! It's cringe worthy and small time. "Have you ever seen the sun" would not come amiss though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Very good article http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/17/man-utd-southampton-premier-league?CMP=EMCFTBEML853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 About as cringe worthy and small time as fawning over another club's supporters. It's a good point... United's away fans are good, loud and a lot of them are mancs. Singing "Do you come from Manchester?" is probably more appropriate at Old Traffod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 It's a good point... United's away fans are good, loud and a lot of them are mancs. Singing "Do you come from Manchester?" is probably more appropriate at Old Traffod! When did accuracy rather than stereotypes become an essential ingredient of football chants/songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Please no one sing "Do you come from Manchester" or "We support our local team". UTD have probably the biggest (and loudest) away following in the premier league and most of them do actually travel down from Manchester! It's cringe worthy and small time. Umm I pay my money I think I'll sing what the **** I like thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Umm I pay my money I think I'll sing what the **** I like thanks. Spoken like a true Chelsea fan on the Paris metro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Very good article http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/17/man-utd-southampton-premier-league?CMP=EMCFTBEML853 Certainly is. Cheers for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 They will exploit targett for sure. I think if depay/mata (not sure who plays on the right these days) have a stormer then we're doomed This will probably have a bearing on who plays in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 Think we are going to get stuffed now. I was feeling pretty confident until I saw both Merson and Lawrenson have tipped us to beat Man Utd........kiss of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 I think we'll get at least a draw. Much more confident with VVD at the back. I'd go with: Stek Cedric, Fonte, VVD, Targett Wanyama, Romeu Jrod, Mane, Tadic Pelle Though I expect Davis will start in the middle with Mane right and Jrod on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 I think we'll get at least a draw. Much more confident with VVD at the back. I'd go with: Stek Cedric, Fonte, VVD, Targett Wanyama, Romeu Jrod, Mane, Tadic Pelle Though I expect Davis will start in the middle with Mane right and Jrod on the bench. for a defensive team like us. I cannot see us starting with that many forwards against united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 My Manc STH neighbour reckons we' ll beat them by two clear goals on Sunday.I'm off to the bookies as he's more reliable than Lawro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 for a defensive team like us. I cannot see us starting with that many forwards against united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 FWIW I think it'll be fairly close but I can't see us winning, so either a draw or the usual Man U one goal win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProxyCentauri Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 They will exploit targett for sure. I think if depay/mata (not sure who plays on the right these days) have a stormer then we're doomed Coming from Norway, I watched parts of the U21 match ENG-NOR. Martin Ødegaard(Real Madrid) used Targett as a cone a couple of times . That said,, Targett did a decent match against Baggies. United is a different squad though. Not hard to foresee guys like Martial, Memphis challenge him 1/1. Bertrand not fully operational, but IMO he feels better as a starter. Targett entering mid-match maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 I'd go with - Stek Cedric, Fonte, VVD, Yoshida Wanyama, Romeu Jrod, Mane, Tadic Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 [h=1]PRESS CONFERENCE: Koeman previews Man United clash[/h] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 Seems from the Saints tweets that it was a Utd press conference. Only thing we learned was that Mane may start (which is bloody obvious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 Not a single question about team news, great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 Pointless press conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 I don't know who the prat was asking the questions but it made the news conference into an event that should have been cancelled. A total waste if time. Not what Southampton fans want to hear. Shaw, Van Gaal, Schneiderlin, DePay, who cares. What is the state of our injuries is of more interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 (edited) Bertrand not fit for this one but should be for Swansea. Clasie longer. Targett will need to be better against Martial, Mata or Depay than he has against the wide players so far. Not having a go, but they are a big step up from the players he has semi struggled with so far. Edited 18 September, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 18 September, 2015 Share Posted 18 September, 2015 I don't know who the prat was asking the questions but it made the news conference into an event that should have been cancelled. A total waste if time. Not what Southampton fans want to hear. Shaw, Van Gaal, Schneiderlin, DePay, who cares. What is the state of our injuries is of more interest. Couldn't agree more. You could also sense that Koeman was getting p*ssed off answering questions about Depay; I think there were three questions. We don't give a monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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