Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 According to the Telegraph's Jeremy Wilson, Pellegrini is being interviewed this weekend... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/17/manuel-pellegrini-on-southampton-manager-shortlist/ Pellegrini record since moving to European football in 2004... Villareal in La Liga 2004/05 - 3rd 2005/06 - 7th 2006/07 - 5th 2007/08 - 2nd 2008/09 - 5th Real Madrid in La Liga 2009/10 - 2nd Malaga in La Liga 2010/11 - 11th 2011/12 - 4th 2012/13 - 6th Man City in Premier League 2013/14 - 1st 2014/15 - 2nd 2015/16 - 4th Runs in Europe 2004/05 - Villareal - Quarter final UEFA Cup 2005/06 - Villareal - Semi final UEFA Cup 2006/07 - Villareal - Lost Intertoto Cup 2007/08 - Villareal - Last 32 round UEFA Cup 2008/09 - Villareal - Quarter final Champions League 2009/10 - Real Madrid - Last 16 Champions League 2012/13 - Malaga - Quarter final Champions League 2013/14 - Man City - Last 16 Champions League 2014/15 - Man City - Last 16 Champions League 2015/16 - Man City - Champions League semi final He comfortably has a more impressive CV than any previous Southampton manager and a lot of experience in European competition. I'm not entirely convinced he is a perfect match for style of play & academy importance at Saints, but his record with Villareal & Malaga is impressive. Him joining would also be a sign of ambition to current players, potential players and the fanbase. Wilson has also said Saints offered Koeman £4.5m p/a, that is at a similar level to what Pellegrini was on at Man City. Saints aren't lacking ambition if they are offering £4.5m (£86,000 p/w) to managers, not many clubs in world football offer more... Jeremy WilsonVerified account@JWTelegraph Southampton preferred that he extended but would have let him see out last year. Offer was 3yrs at £4.5m with a get-out clause next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Would love to see this and would attract plenty of players I would feel .has also blooded iheanacho in the first team additionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 from that article Southampton want a manager who encourages a high-pressing and passing style, as well as a willingness to promote young players and, ideally, experience of European football. sounds like they just want poch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 (edited) I take it the source is actually the Telegraph taxi driver that has just dropped him off at the De Vere...!!! Seriously though, my only worry with him would be that he might look at it as a step down after City, be less motivated and put his feet up a little bit. Don't know - I may be reading it wrong. Edited 18 June, 2016 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I'm coming around to the idea purely as this is a coach who might suit us more than he suited the zillions to spend likes of Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I don't relish some of the French no-marks that seem to be in contention, so maybe Manuel is our man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF Saint Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Man City aside... What type of tactics did he utilise in Spain and would they suit us now? Man City certainly weren't a high pressing team - they relied on out scoring teams due to their firepower most of the time which we wouldn't be able to get with. Did well with one or two youngsters such as Iheanacho... Maybe he'll fancy a loan move down south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Man City aside... What type of tactics did he utilise in Spain and would they suit us now? Man City certainly weren't a high pressing team - they relied on out scoring teams due to their firepower most of the time which we wouldn't be able to get with. Did well with one or two youngsters such as Iheanacho... Maybe he'll fancy a loan move down south City fans (my ST holder mate there at least) were calling for Pellegrini to play Iheanacho earlier and more. They/he also seemed annoyed by his relatively negative tactics. I'm not convinced by him albeit his CV is suitably impressive in terms of clubs. It may be of course that he's a better manager with a smaller budget than a huge one but he's not my preferred candidate right now! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Man City aside... What type of tactics did he utilise in Spain and would they suit us now? Man City certainly weren't a high pressing team - they relied on out scoring teams due to their firepower most of the time which we wouldn't be able to get with. Did well with one or two youngsters such as Iheanacho... Maybe he'll fancy a loan move down south https://defendingwiththeball.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/an-in-depth-look-at-the-engineers-well-constructed-4-2-2-2-philosophy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who would seemingly turn their noses up at a manager that has won league titles, taken unfashionable clubs far in the champions league and has done well when working with a tight budget. I'd take Pellegrini!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 This is a guy who has been considered good enough for probably two of the highest profile managerial jobs around in world football these days, Real Madrid and moneybags City, that says quite a lot and he was hardly bad in either job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who would seemingly turn their noses up at a manager that has won league titles, taken unfashionable clubs far in the champions league and has done well when working with a tight budget. I'd take Pellegrini!! Think the guys that make these silly comments about NOT wanting M.P as our manager know cuck all about football if he came here it would be a massive show of ambition by the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 These are the same people that didn't want Ibra as he had a ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Why pellegrini would be fantastic; He is a big name who will keep existing players He will not be poached He has point to prove He will attract players Sign him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 This notion that a big name manager will mean players will want to stay is a red herring imo, Koeman was a very big name but that didn't prevent a mass exodus over two summers. Players will go where the money/prestige is regardless of who is our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 This notion that a big name manager will mean players will want to stay is a red herring imo, Koeman was a very big name but that didn't prevent a mass exodus over two summers. Players will go where the money/prestige is regardless of who is our manager. Please explain last summer's "mass exodus" After all each time we progressed anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Koeman is a big name as a player but not a manager. He was huge in Holland as a manager but nowhere else. Pellegrini is a definite sign of ambition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Is his track record of success down to his coaching, or that he was coach of clubs with loads of money/big fish in their pond ? His record at Malaga wasnt so hot as at the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Sign him up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Would have to avoid his interviews - the guy is pretty boring. Not sure if there is anyone better for us at the moment though. Just hope he is fully motivated if he does come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2016 Author Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Is his track record of success down to his coaching, or that he was coach of clubs with loads of money/big fish in their pond ? His record at Malaga wasnt so hot as at the others. He took Malaga to the Champions League quarter final! Before Pellegrini... 2009/10 - 17th (avoided relegation by 1 point!) With Pellegrini... 2010/11 - 11th 2011/12 - 4th 2012/13 - 6th To turn a relegation threatened team into a Champions League quarter finalist in just 3 years is extremely impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 He took Malaga to the Champions League quarter final! Before Pellegrini... 2009/10 - 17th (avoided relegation by 1 point!) With Pellegrini... 2010/11 - 11th 2011/12 - 4th 2012/13 - 6th To turn a relegation threatened team into a Champions League quarter finalist in just 3 years is extremely impressive! That is some going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 (edited) He took Malaga to the Champions League quarter final! Before Pellegrini... 2009/10 - 17th (avoided relegation by 1 point!) With Pellegrini... 2010/11 - 11th 2011/12 - 4th 2012/13 - 6th To turn a relegation threatened team into a Champions League quarter finalist in just 3 years is extremely impressive! Yes... but he did so with absolute swathes of cash. Oh, and Pellegrini took over the club in the relegation places in 2010/11. Next season, , they spent sh1tloads. Done well for the 6th place finish though Edited 18 June, 2016 by Crab Lungs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I worry Pellegrini is going to be a little bit Houllier-at-Villa. But of this three we seem to be down two now my favourite. Please come back Rudi. We'll love you and love you good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gphutchings Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 If they are looking for an experienced manager who plays the high press,I just can't understand why Bielsa isn't being strongly linked?He is a managerial god according to Guardiola and Poch,and a free agent???He is also completely bonkers and very entertaining. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I worry Pellegrini is going to be a little bit Houllier-at-Villa. But of this three we seem to be down two now my favourite. Please come back Rudi. We'll love you and love you good. Strong, wiry hair to be fair. Pellegrini, not Rudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 If they are looking for an experienced manager who plays the high press,I just can't understand why Bielsa isn't being strongly linked?He is a managerial god according to Guardiola and Poch,and a free agent???He is also completely bonkers and very entertaining. You've answered your own question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 If they are looking for an experienced manager who plays the high press,I just can't understand why Bielsa isn't being strongly linked?He is a managerial god according to Guardiola and Poch,and a free agent???He is also completely bonkers and very entertaining. Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk that would be fun yes yes yessity yes wont happen as long as ive a hole in me arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gphutchings Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Pellegrini and his assistant to be announced on Monday... Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I worry Pellegrini is going to be a little bit Houllier-at-Villa. But of this three we seem to be down two now my favourite. Please come back Rudi. We'll love you and love you good. TBF Houllier was pretty tosh at Liverpool before he went there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 from that article Southampton want a manager who encourages a high-pressing and passing style, as well as a willingness to promote young players and, ideally, experience of European football. sounds like they just want poch.... https://defendingwiththeball.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/an-in-depth-look-at-the-engineers-well-constructed-4-2-2-2-philosophy/ interesting conclusion: The pith of Pellegrini’s tactics is to maintain possession and play free-flowing attacking football, as evident in his time in Europe I'd welcome the manager as described above, but not sure that is consistent with the Man City style seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 Strong, wiry hair to be fair. Pellegrini, not Rudi. Lion-like. In fact if he lands up at SFC he'll easily be the second best mane at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 He took Malaga to the Champions League quarter final! Before Pellegrini... 2009/10 - 17th (avoided relegation by 1 point!) With Pellegrini... 2010/11 - 11th 2011/12 - 4th 2012/13 - 6th To turn a relegation threatened team into a Champions League quarter finalist in just 3 years is extremely impressive! They should have got further as well. Seem to remember Dortmund scoring extremely late in the QF to knock Malaga out when they were heading through to the SF's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 judging from his last pre match presser at City, he's love Saints' Stats department http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/manuel-pellegrini-didnt-bad-job-manchester-city-370944#uGcImMti0UFapQXP.99 However, the Chilean attended his weekly press conference armed with a set of data that paints his time at City in a positive light. “I always think we can do better, but the important thing is to compare yourself with all the other teams,” he said. “If we make a summary of the three seasons I’ve been in charge we were the team that had the most points. We were the team that had the best performances [in my time] as manager and we were the team that scored the most goals. “The only thing we couldn’t be best at was defence – that was Chelsea; they conceded just four fewer goals than our team. The goal difference [over the three seasons] is huge between us and all the other teams. “During those three seasons, the fans always told me they enjoyed our games. Of course, it’s impossible to play all the games well, but if you look at the amount of goals we have scored I think it’s 50 or 60 more than any other team. I think that’s an entertaining team, and a team that wins titles and has progressed in the Champions League. “It’s about a style and, for me, it’s important to be the highest-scoring team in those three seasons, always to be in the Champions League and to win three titles. I’m happy, but I think you must always think you can do better.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I wonder if he had total freedom at City in the last couple of seasons. His style previously seems to tick all the boxes of the Southampton Way - I would be chuffed to see him in charge at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I'm bound to have forgotten some spats and arguments, but one thing that strikes me about his time as City, is there seemed to be hardly any incidents in the background at City with him in charge? Mancini seemed to have massive arguments every couple of weeks back in the day. So Pellegrini can obviously keep the peace - Quite impressive given the ego's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 I don't relish some of the French no-marks that seem to be in contention, so maybe Manuel is our man. What did you make of Pochettino before he was appointed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 One of those guys not even rival teams seem to have any animosity towards - similar to Ranieri. I want us to get This Charming Man. Loads of warmth and experience and a gentleman. Gutted Garcia out of picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 He may be getting on but as the likes of Whelk, Whitey and myself can attest - there is many a fine tune can be played on an old fiddle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 He may be getting on but as the likes of Whelk, Whitey and myself can attest - there is many a fine tune can be played on an old fiddle! I'm nowhere near your age you cheeky bstard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasSaint Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 I would take Pellegrini any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gphutchings Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 There is no doubt about it (in my mind) I think Pellegrini would be biggest signing since Kevin Keegan.It would be a massive statement!!A lot of old people retire on the South Coast so he might even stick around for a while as well!!!??? ? Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 He is down to even money with Bet Victor. It appears the bookies are as much in the dark as us. Nobody odds-on. The club are keeping things very close to their chest, or they haven't made a decision yet. Pellegrini is the outstanding candidate. We need someone now with Premier and European experience. Anything less is second best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 Luke warm about Pellegrini, thought he underperformed at Citeh given the resources and does he still have the hunger having previously managed some big clubs? Would personally prefer a young hungry manager but a guy like Pellegrini does have the 'big name' status which will attract quality players. I will say that it would an ambitious statement from the club (despite my questions) if they get him bearing in mind his status in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 It would be an a amazing signing.Made better by the fact he's approached us.Could possibly be his swan song and he has a point to prove to Citeh. If he manages to keep us about were we are now with a progression in cups & Europe for a few years he'd have done great in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gphutchings Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 I absolutely cannot stand Walter Zenga!!!I don't care what his managerial record is like (and it's not good anyway),I can't stand the man.Surely it's a wind up?? Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 The Zengabus is coming And everybody's jumping New York to San Fransisco An intercity disco The wheels of steel are turning And traffic lights are burning So if you like to party Get on and move your body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 Hello Party People! This Is Captain Les Speaking Welcome Aboard Zenga Airways After Take Off Will Pump Up The Soundsystem Cause We're Going To Europa! I Don't Wanna Be A Busdriver All My Life I'm Gonna Pack My Bags And Leave This Town Grab A Flight Fly Away On Zenga Airways Fly Me High Europa Sky I Look Up At The Sky And I See The Clouds I Looked Down At The Ground And I See The League go Down The Drain Fly Away On Zenga Airways Fly Me High Europa Sky Whoah! We're Going To Europa Whoah! Back To The Championship Whoah! We're Going To do a Villa Whoah! We're Gonna Have A Meltdown Whoah! All live on the TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 Hello Party People! This Is Captain Les Speaking Welcome Aboard Zenga Airways After Take Off Will Pump Up The Soundsystem Cause We're Going To Europa! I Don't Wanna Be A Busdriver All My Life I'm Gonna Pack My Bags And Leave This Town Grab A Flight Fly Away On Zenga Airways Fly Me High Europa Sky I Look Up At The Sky And I See The Clouds I Looked Down At The Ground And I See The League go Down The Drain Fly Away On Zenga Airways Fly Me High Europa Sky Whoah! We're Going To Europa Whoah! Back To The Championship Whoah! We're Going To do a Villa Whoah! We're Gonna Have A Meltdown Whoah! All live on the TV Proof kids of what drugs do to your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 19 June, 2016 Share Posted 19 June, 2016 Hello Party People! This Is Captain Les Speaking Welcome Aboard Zenga Airways After Take Off Will Pump Up The Soundsystem Cause We're Going To Europa! I Don't Wanna Be A Busdriver All My Life I'm Gonna Pack My Bags And Leave This Town Grab A Flight Fly Away On Zenga Airways Fly Me High Europa Sky I Look Up At The Sky And I See The Clouds I Looked Down At The Ground And I See The League go Down The Drain Fly Away On Zenga Airways Fly Me High Europa Sky Whoah! We're Going To Europa Whoah! Back To The Championship Whoah! We're Going To do a Villa Whoah! We're Gonna Have A Meltdown Whoah! All live on the TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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