Winnersaint Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Progression is about improving your own team and squad. We can't control the quality of other teams in the league. Hey that's almost an Adkins quote. "Control the controllables" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Trousers happy with Yoshida as main back up , remember that everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 So has anyone close to the club actually confirmed yet that our business is done for the summer? I personally still hope for one more before the 11pm deadline. So do I, but can't really see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Why do they have to sit on the bench ? Couldn't we have signed an upgrade on Fonte ? Semedo bought in? So Fonte sent off 3 games and VVD injured we have Yoshida and Stephens is that depth? Fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 It's not every game and even then 'howler' is an exaggeration. He under hit one back pass against Watford but was otherwise very reliable. It comes with not being a regular starter, we won't get a better player sitting on our bench. If Fonte didn't start for 2 months, then was chucked in because of injury, he would make mistakes too. If that under hit back pass wasn't a howler then what would qualify as one? Genuine question. With a less alert keeper that would have led directly to a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Hey that's almost an Adkins quote. "Control the controllables" It's all you ever can do in life. Everybody, including me, should remind themselves of that every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Trousers happy with Yoshida as main back up , remember that everyone FF in putting words into my mouth for a change, remember that everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Which TBF he did on Saturday. Should have done better with Zlatan's header too IMO but people don't tend to mention things like this with Fonte for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I think the club know what they're doing. It doesn't seem to square with the plan to get into the Champions League. Maybe they've changed their mind on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 It is, unfortunately, what happens when you sell very early in the window. You could understand an early sell if we needed the funds to invest...but it looks like we've had our pants pulled down over this deal and we easily could have pushed for a few more million but it would have only added to the liebhers bank balance anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I really can't believe knowing right back situation we didn't go for chambers especially knowing he could cover cb, really poor decision by all, knowing Cuco could have gone and we would've had year to scout new rb or cb do you know we didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 So fair to say the general mood is we could have done better this window/expected more...we're left light for cover at DM, CB, RB and STR. RB is forgivable - Pied injury unfortunate. The rest predictable and we've had time to fix (there's still a couple of hours left...we live in hope). Assuming no more action for us, I'd like to know your thoughts: what teams have done the best transfer business this window (not just last day)...and what teams have done the worst? A useful ndicator of where we stand relative to our competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Yep. We are in Europe and are apparently the fastest growing footballing brand in the world, but Stoke, Sunderland, Everton, etc. attract better players than us. Better players or better known? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Let's be honest, this window just smacks of the club not really striving to actually improve that much, just to try to replace what we've lost as adequately and prudently as possible in order to just stand still. Problem is, other clubs are actually improving on what they've got, or so it would seem which means the net effect for us will be that we are actually going to be going backwards. When you think we came 6th last year, this is pretty damn poor in my eyes. The glaring thing for me is the sheer reluctance to even attempt buy anyone of proven Premier league quality. I know people will say that these players come at too hefty a prive but whatever way you look at it, the vast majority of our signings are pure gambles, as is our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 So fair to say the general mood is we could have done better this window/expected more...we're left light for cover at DM, CB, RB and STR. RB is forgivable - Pied injury unfortunate. The rest predictable and we've had time to fix (there's still a couple of hours left...we live in hope). Assuming no more action for us, I'd like to know your thoughts: what teams have done the best transfer business this window (not just last day)...and what teams have done the worst? A useful ndicator of where we stand relative to our competition Bournemouth have done best (relative to their income), not sure who has done worst, but it ain't Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 It doesn't seem to square with the plan to get into the Champions League. Maybe they've changed their mind on that. Agreed, maybe this is the change of direction (or change of mind) that was referred to prior to Puels appointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Anyone know when last time we had a squad with no loans in? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I bet at 9pm the message will be leaked from the club that there will be no business tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Are we done then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 What a totally underwhelming summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 (edited) The glaring thing for me is the sheer reluctance to even attempt buy anyone of proven Premier league quality. Whether we (the fans) like it or not, the club have made it crystal clear over the last few years that our adopted philosophy is to "breed not buy success". With the current regime in place, that is what we will continue to do. They are simply carrying out the philosophy laid down by Markus Liebherr when he bought us. It's been a relatively successful philosophy the last few years. Maybe one day it will stop being successful. Or maybe it will continue to serve us well for the foreseeable future. Who knows. All we do know is that the only way this philosophy will change is if/when there is regime change at the club. So, as fans, we can either go with the flow or call for regime change. I'm currently in the 'go with the flow' camp. That may change, or it may not. Who knows... Edited 31 August, 2016 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Just seen that West Brom have signed Nyom from Watford, someone I regard as one of the worst premiership players I have seen at SMS in many years. I feel strangely happy with our own lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Logan Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I'm starting to wish the bloody football season had never started.....we really do have a handful (and thankfully it is only a handful) of complete and utter W**kers on this forum. Complain,complain,complain,*****,*****,*****.....if all you can do is moan and ***** about everything the club does then do us all a favour and f*ck off and support Pompey. I couldnt have articulated it more eloquently Barcelonasaint....a vast number of over expectant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 What a totally underwhelming summer. If this is underwhelming, than what the hell did you say about the summer of '14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 If this is underwhelming, than what the hell did you say about the summer of '14? #meltdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Puel said he wanted two more before we signed Boufal so don't be surprised if we announce something late on. Weren't Toby and Mane last minute announcements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Logan Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 What a totally underwhelming summer. So predictable of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 The funny thing is, people were saying the exact same things last year (we're not investing enough/not improving/not strengthening in comparison to other PL clubs.) I agree we could have spent more money this time around, but as the club has repeated again and again, that is not our philosophy. It has got us from the bottom of L1 to the Europa League, so I don't understand the reason to abandon it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 do you know we didn't? Not I don't know for sure but I'll guess a local lad who has chance of Europeon football and still just down the m3 from his 'new' mates would've rather come here and imo would be better rb than cedric than go all the way up to boro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 August, 2016 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Puel said he wanted two more before we signed Boufal so don't be surprised if we announce something late on. Weren't Toby and Mane last minute announcements? LeG seemed to imply earlier that something could still be in the offing. Any ITKs verify this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 LeG seemed to imply earlier that something could still be in the offing. Any ITKs verify this? They've all been put under the stairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Am I being naive in thinking that maybe the ITK's are all very quiet because something is actually going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 What a totally underwhelming summer. The window is still open - RELAX Quotes from Reed; The aspiration is to compete with the best,” he said. “That’s what we want the players to buy into. We want them to believe and the next addition will be down in reception with the trophy cabinet.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Of my God, Everton are ****ing idiots. £57m combined for Sissoko and Bolasie. Unbelievable. Glad we're not getting involved with all this ******** frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Anyone know when last time we had a squad with no loans in? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's actually a really good point. We seem to be more keen to tie key players down to longer term contracts rather than bring in loanees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 The window is still open - RELAX Quotes from Reed; The aspiration is to compete with the best,” he said. “That’s what we want the players to buy into. We want them to believe and the next addition will be down in reception with the trophy cabinet.”whats the addition, some windowlene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 That's actually a really good point. We seem to be more keen to tie key players down to longer term contracts rather than bring in loanees. And to think in 2014 we were being told on here that loans were the way of the future, a brilliant risk-free way for a club our size to access and trial talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winger Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 You just hit the nail on the head. Best post tonight. Why do we net spend less than every other club in the Premiership. We have a more demanding fixture list to cope with and with a weaker squad. Can someone explain why this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 31 August, 2016 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Isn't there usually a "that's all our business done" tweet at some point from Saints? As there hasn't yet been one, it might suggest someone might be coming in. Or leaving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 DEAL DONE: Wolfsburg have signed Philipp Wollscheid from Stoke City. (Source: @VfL_Wolfsburg) Best bit of business Stoke will do this window. No. That was when then managed to offload Marc Wilson onto Boscombe. My Stoke mates were pis sing themselves that someone would pay money for the worst (stats, as well as their own eyes) player in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Exactly!! Of my God, Everton are ****ing idiots. £57m combined for Sissoko and Bolasie. Unbelievable. Glad we're not getting involved with all this ******** frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I thought a couple more kids might have gone out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I thought a couple more kids might have gone out on loan. Think the Checkatrade means we need them now Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Think the Checkatrade means we need them now This is true. I suppose Gape leaving means O'Connor will get the call to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Anyway, still 90 mins left, anything could happen right. Loan for schneiderlin, sign haller, suddenly a really good window. I think all optimism died when the club apologists changed scripts from "the window is still open" to "we breed not buy success" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I think all optimism died when the club apologists changed scripts from "the window is still open" to "we breed not buy success"lol, our breeding stock is a tad thin at present. sadly when the young promising players are brought in, they get slated on here eg Targett and JWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Normally we'd already know if we were already done? We might just have something in the works here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 I think all optimism died when the club apologists changed scripts from "the window is still open" to "we breed not buy success" Lol. What the hell is a club apologist? Is that some left winf fraction of the club led by Michael Wilde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Normally we'd already know if we were already done? We might just have something in the works here...Ohhh FFS this means I will have to stay up to what SSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 31 August, 2016 Share Posted 31 August, 2016 Surely if someone was still being signed someone somewhere would have got wind of it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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