Bad Wolf Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, haddock22 said: Can we all be honest and say che adams is not a premier league striker and until we replace, the lack of goals will continue until we buy one I think you'll find he is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 thought we fought hard and for periods looked half decent. Che should have scored early on. Could have made a big difference. Far too many one on one chances are not taken in games. When we pressed Fulham struggled. When Edozie and Che got tired we faded. So badly need genuine forward options to keep that energy up. NJ needs signings done quick. Thought Lyanco cost us a point. He makes zero effort to win the header for the corner. I'll add this to my collection of piss poor efforts to win headers that have led directly to goals (Norwich and Liverpool being the others). I have said it from game 1 that he is a liability. This is about the 8th game in a row that Aribo has been a total no entity. He does nothing. Absolutely nothing. Thought Ely, JWP ad Edozie had good games. ABK marshalled Mitrovic well. KWP looked sharp. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, Dman said: Oh Nathan, it was going so well until you changed it up to cling on to a 1-1 against fucking Fulham… Has a sense of the game that probably relegates us, confidence will be even lower than it was before now. As others have said performance of a team going down. Lose even when play well. Conceding late goals. It’s going to be a long second half the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 12 minutes ago, Viking Saint said: Lyanco, and this is why he shouldn't be starting - a bloody liability Yet most said his grit and passion is just what we needed!... Well that's only any good if it's combined with some level of footballing skill... His positional sense is the worst I've seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfcphilc Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 I don't think there's a manager that would keep us up. The fight has drained out of the team and fans alike. We've been sleepwalking towards this day for a few years now. We played alot better today than Boxing Day but we still offer near to nothing from open play and defensively we have no leaders. Keep conceding + can't score = relegation. If we lose against Forest that's us as good as down, even though we're not far adrift. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Happy new year folks !! 😂😂😂we’re going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, Dman said: Young, hungry and therefore guaranteed to improve…? Nobody is guaranteed to improve. But he's got talent, there's ability there. Goalkeepers generally don't mature until about 23/24 anyway. Hardly his fault he's been thrown in at the deep end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, Sfcphilc said: I don't think there's a manager that would keep us up. The fight has drained out of the team and fans alike. We've been sleepwalking towards this day for a few years now. We played alot better today than Boxing Day but we still offer near to nothing from open play and defensively we have no leaders. Keep conceding + can't score = relegation. If we lose against Forest that's us as good as down, even though we're not far adrift. The fight drained out of our fans when Spurs equalised on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Lyanco is appaling. Jones should never play him unless desperate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 We cant score in a brothel. That more than anything is our problem, che I hit keepers Adams is our most potent goal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, Bad Wolf said: Nobody is guaranteed to improve. But he's got talent, there's ability there. Goalkeepers generally don't mature until about 23/24 anyway. Hardly his fault he's been thrown in at the deep end. He’s crap. Weak as piss, makes loads of mistakes, generally concedes more of the ‘keeper should have that’ than he saves. Angus Gunn mk2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: He shouldn't be playing end of. We spanked 13 million or so on someone who should be a back up keeper. We needed better and we needed experience in that position. We never learned our lesson with Gunn. This fuckin club thinks that they are so clever with transfers. The transfer policy will see us relegated. No question. I remember me and others getting shouted down in the summer for daring to suggest we should be buying more experienced players. All I heard was "if they're old enough they're good enough" "What is experience anyway?", "We have loads of experience and they are shite" etc Well, if there's ever a case of needing experience it is Bazunu. He is not ready for 1st place in a prem team and neither are most of the other youngsters we bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said: That's not what I'm arguing here is it? I'm simply saying he isn't sh1t. There's a world of difference between being sh1t and not being the finished product. His distribution, whilst not being perfect however is a huge upgrade on Forster or McCarthy. Fucking hipster twats who think keepers need to be ‘good with their feet’ get on my tits. What they need to be is brave, good shot-stoppers and dominate their area. I couldn’t give a tuppeny fuck how good they are at passing the ball. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Jones will be sacked if we lose to Forest imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, Chez said: thought we fought hard and for periods looked half decent. Che should have scored early on. Could have made a big difference. Far too many one on one chances are not taken in games. When we pressed Fulham struggled. When Edozie and Che got tired we faded. So badly need genuine forward options to keep that energy up. NJ needs signings done quick. Thought Lyanco cost us a point. He makes zero effort to win the header for the corner. I'll add this to my collection of piss poor efforts to win headers that have led directly to goals (Norwich and Liverpool being the others). I have said it from game 1 that he is a liability. This is about the 8th game in a row that Aribo has been a total no entity. He does nothing. Absolutely nothing. Thought Ely, JWP ad Edozie had good games. ABK marshalled Mitrovic well. KWP looked sharp. Dont agree. we were overloaded. There's 2 guys at the front and 2 at the back with one marker each. I don't blame Lyanco anymore than i blame Armstrong. Equally i'd say ABK shouldn't concede a corner when Cairney dives for a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Lyanco is appaling. Jones should never play him unless desperate. Yeah he wasn't good today but he's not the reason we can never score from open play. Edozie, moi and Che should of scored today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Leno, with his 12 full caps for Germany, was available for £8m in the summer - roughly half what we paid for Bazunu who is nowhere near ready to be a starting keeper in the PL. But hey, who cares, one day he might be decent and he'd be just great in the Championship. Like Jos Hooiveld. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, SotonianWill said: Jones will be sacked if we lose to Forest imo Really ? u think Rasmus would eat humble pie that quickly. The main problem is out forwards fire more blanks than a eunuch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Championship here we come, no way back from this. We simply aren't good enough. At least we may win some games for a change. Happy New year 🎉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Played ok (not great) for most of the second half then gifted it to Fulham by failing to get within two yards of the Fulham player with the near post flick on. Atrocious defending. If everyone is fit (and without whichever superstars we sign in the next few weeks) we should be playing Macca Tino ABK DCC Sali KWP JWP Romeo Stuey Sam Chele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 It's going to be a shit New Year. I think this is the most hopeless I've felt in a relegation scrap ever, and we've been in a few. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morse Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 We desperately need a striker. But we won't buy the striker we need. We'll buy a youngster, cheaply with no top level experience. It's the Semmens SR way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo is back Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Shambles of a manager , team ,club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Still shaking my head in total disbelief that we continue to contrive ways to lose games. Quite incredible. All we had to do was not concede a goal - I really thought we were the better team and for the first time, signs that the players were behind the manager and working hard. We simply had to get something out of that game to build on. A brilliant free kick from JWP - all things pointing to us going on to win. Commentator cursed it for me "Southampton have only conceded one goal in the last 15 minutes"...cue concession of a stupid corner and terrible non-marking front post and back post. We simply have to win against Forest otherwise we're down. Lyanco though, c'mon what a joke. And Bazunu - grow a pair and take responsibility for commanding your area! His lack of confidence is so apparent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Went into today thinking we didn't need CB's. On that evidence, I'll take Bednarek back. Bella-Kotchup in the build up to that second goal... Unforgivable. Lyanco and Bazunu with that penalty... Blow me. Salisu utterly reckless at everything he does. Shit show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 2 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: Jones will be sacked if we lose to Forest imo I dont think so. The board haven't got the bottle to admit they cocked up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Only silver lining is we already have a Championship team and a Championship manager, and so Lavia and perhaps JWP aside we won't need to rebuild in the Summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Dont agree. we were overloaded. There's 2 guys at the front and 2 at the back with one marker each. I don't blame Lyanco anymore than i blame Armstrong. Equally i'd say ABK shouldn't concede a corner when Cairney dives for a penalty. I'll have to look at it again I think. He looked very passive to me. Casual. Lazy. Certainly not committed to winning the header at all costs. Maybe I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 3 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: Jones will be sacked if we lose to Forest imo Nonsense, he hasn't been able to bring in a single player & his lack of options up the pitch really showed today. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Get rid of the useless idiot. Appalling decision making at 1-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, RedWillie said: I dont think so. The board haven't got the bottle to admit they cocked up. They dithered over sacking Ralph and kept him much longer than they should have. No way will they sack this clown yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 15 minutes ago, It's There said: The main issue is it taking our chances!!! Today our problems were far bigger than that. A keeper devoid of any confidence and a defence who cannot fathom how to do the very basics of defending. Che is just, Che. He cannot lead a line on his own or be relied on to score goals. Bodes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Really ? u think Rasmus would eat humble pie that quickly. The main problem is out forwards fire more blanks than a eunuch. Yes I just read on twitter that Rasmus got angry after full time. Really it’s his fault for committing on signing a bunch of kids making our team inherently worse. I like Jones but think he might pull the plug with the pressure put on him from SR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Just now, Rich102 said: Only silver lining is we already have a Championship team and a Championship manager, and so Lavia and perhaps JWP aside we won't need to rebuild in the Summer. Depends if they ha relegation clauses in their contracts I guess.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 I reckon we might be a decent mid table outfit in the Championship next season. Just so long as we find some way to score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 We lost a lot of games this season under Ralph due to personal/ player errors. Not a massive shock to see that under a new manager, we lose games due to personal/player errors. It is compounded by tactics under both that promote the chances of these happening in dangerous positions and by our poor recruitment. Today we didn't close down a corner we rather sloppily gave away. For the second we didn't stop a header from a sloppily given away corner. If we drop back as a team, which is the natural trained thing to do, we are simply not capable of keeping a team out. We're just not switched on enough to do this for long periods (and seeminly increasingly shorter periods) It's not helped by having no one in midfield to pass to. I'll probably say this every game, but whoever thought it a good idea to let Romeu go, should be on their bike. Che is very isolated. No one is near him, so he can't bring anyone into the game. No one is near him, so he can;t feed off of anyone else. Stu coming on gave us some hope for a little spell there. We don;t have the ball much as it is, so he's not going to get many chances. The couple he did get today were good chances, but he's not an instinctive finisher. They all required him to think and that moment made all the difference. Edozie is a decent dribbler. But he's neither blisteringly quick, powerful or clinical (he is a kid). He's useful, but he's only learning to make the correct decisions. Aribo does a decent thing once or twice a game, and seems to be a lump for the rest of it. I'll probably say this every game, like everyone else, but whoever thought it a good idea to not get a striker in well ahead of playing around the deadline, should be on their bike too. When we look to at least be trying to get forward, we look okay. KWP, ABK, Salisu are good. JWP had a good game for most of it. Edozie is raw, but useful. Che works hard but needs a lot of help. Mo did well for most of the game too. For all the good things we did today, Fulham looked the most likely in attack. They looked stronger too in a lot of areas. Glariningly weak links are AMN. He nearly got an assist in the game after a good move, and he should be well up the park, if he's playing at all. Aribo is the other one. He offers nothing that Che isn't already providing, and offers nothing to compliment our attack at present. Baz is a bit flappy for my liking and some decision making is a little off. But he's a kid too, and I'd not expect anything more from him at this stage. We desperately need a finisher, a forward who can hold it up, a defensive midfielder (it doesn;t matter if Lavia is coming back, he's not fit and may be on his way sooner rahter than later) and an attacker midfielder who can provide what Stu seems only able to give us 20mins of at present. SR have had since the end of the last window to get things in place. There are no surprises. So, I'm hoping we get off to a flyer in the transfer window. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 5 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: Jones will be sacked if we lose to Forest imo Of course he won't. The silver lining at the moment is that despite winning only 4 in 29 (is it really that bad?) we're not even close to being cut adrift. Lots of bang average teams in the league this season and a little improvement could go a long way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Edozie, moi and Che should of scored today Got to say the Edozie chance should be buried at this level. Much easier chance than the Solly March goal last week. Our forward players just aren't ruthless enough. Not all chances are easy. The keeper made it tough for Che, but we just score enough goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 6 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: Jones will be sacked if we lose to Forest imo Can’t see this unfortunately. The sacking bit. Not the losing to Forest bit. Would be an admission that their silly algorithm doesn’t work in the real world. Needs to happen though, to allow a new manager to get the transfers in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 That's 2022 done then. We managed 8EPL wins (5 last season, 3 this). Effing garbage! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 The board are a bunch of 🤡s End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 (edited) I think this side would even struggle in the championship. Edited 31 December, 2022 by Saint Billy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 2 minutes ago, LGTL said: Get rid of the useless idiot. Appalling decision making at 1-1. Bit harsh. Whatever he did after Brighton, he got the side up for the fight, seemed to set them up well. Not sure NJ can take the blame for that defeat. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, Chez said: Bit harsh. Whatever he did after Brighton, he got the side up for the fight, seemed to set them up well. Not sure NJ can take the blame for that defeat. I thought the tactics were pretty spot on tbh, other than when perraud came on for edozie of course 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chez said: Bit harsh. Whatever he did after Brighton, he got the side up for the fight, seemed to set them up well. Not sure NJ can take the blame for that defeat. Explain Lavia sub please? Too late and why a defensive midfielder at 2-1? The Edozie sub was problem too negative Edited 31 December, 2022 by Give it to Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Bad day at the office,time to put it behind us and move on to the next game.....where another clusterfuck will unfold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 I hope after this wake up call the boys can put it right v Forest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 3 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: I thought the tactics were pretty spot on tbh, other than when perraud came on for edozie of course Apart from when he threw the game away when it was for the taking, you mean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 Personally i didn't have an issue with edozie sub. Really people wanted useless garbage like A.Armstrong/Mara on? What disappointed me was not bringing Lavia on for the booked Elyounessi at 1-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 December, 2022 Share Posted 31 December, 2022 1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said: Apart from when he threw the game away when it was for the taking, you mean? Is that not the substitution I spoke about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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