Plymouth 1-2 Saints - FT

[Nolan]

16 hours ago, pafcprogs said:

Greetings saintly Ones

I write a review/preview piece on Pasoti which looks at the last/upcoming fixtures from a highly Green perspective. Aims to be factually correct on the history, but humorous in intent.....feel free to contact to correct any factual errors .

Looking forward ( hopefully) to our continuation of Sky performances 3/3 at home last season....or maybe 4...can't remember if the Wednesday game was Sky or not, but Ipswich Exeter and Derby all were for sure...so that would be nice...

 

Anyhoo, safe travels for those making the short hop (it's all relative) to HP.

 

I'll post the link to the review one when its done.....you can stop reading that one when I start talking about Brummie's

 

https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/one-game-at-a-time-youre-only-here-for-the-pasties-southampton-h-august-19th.124649/#post-2407976

 

"You could be forgiven for expecting a Blue Peter style totaliser being unveiled outside the ground for fans to keep a track of how much cash has rolled in. Not much has gone out yet."

[AlexLaw76]

In all seriousness about Saints having too much for them, I think Plymouth will win. They are formidable at home, have serious pace on the counter, which is what will undo us as we miss loads of chances, and leave ourselves wide open at the back.

We have already proven that keeping the ball will not stop the opposition from scoring (lots)

Edited 18 August, 2023 by AlexLaw76

[Fan The Flames]

Will it do us good to lose this game. Focus the minds of the management, long term good and all that. Discuss.

[DT]

Have a feeling this will be a heavy loss. 3-0. Way too exposed at the back. And they don't seem to know what they're doing. If Downes in and fit by tomorrow, all changes, but at the moment I feel we are very exposable when we lose the ball.

[Owen The Saints]

Apart from 2 centre backs and a midfielder that are too slow for this league and 2 forwards who don't score or contribute enough in open play, we have a good side. We need goals big time. Can't rely on penalties or unintentional deflections.

Hopefully Adams is out at long last. Is it true his total PL goals in 4 years were scored in one, he still wouldn't get him a golden boot. I had him down as a skip player, so £12M far exceeds his worth.

[CB Fry]

44 minutes ago, DT said:

Have a feeling this will be a heavy loss. 3-0. Way too exposed at the back. And they don't seem to know what they're doing. If Downes in and fit by tomorrow, all changes, but at the moment I feel we are very exposable when we lose the ball.

I thought we were undefeated in the league but must be a different Southampton.

[skintsaint]

3-1 win, AA with 2 and Tella with the other.

[Dman]

Do the club not show the Press conference on Twitter / youtube anymore? Or am I just being thick? 

 

A shame Downes isn't about for this one, we could have really done with him. Especially with Smallbones absence. Side picks itself for me; 

Bazunu

KWP Janny B Stephens Manning (although i'd go perruad)

Charles

Stu Alcaraz 

Tella Adams AA 

Tough game, i'm gonna go 2-2 or 2-1 Plymouth. 

Edited 18 August, 2023 by Dman

[sfc4prem]

Such pessimism based on one game and some transfer inaction.

Russell's had another week training the team. Let's see what they produce on the pitch. Backed by a raucous away following fuelled by beer, there'll be a real desire and focus I think.

3-2 to Saints.

[Bad Wolf]

Can someone provide bullet points?

[Sussex_saint]

24 minutes ago, Dman said:

Do the club not show the Press conference on Twitter / youtube anymore? Or am I just being thick? 

 

A shame Downes isn't about for this one, we could have really done with him. Especially with Smallbones absence. Side picks itself for me; 

Bazunu

KWP Janny B Stephens Manning (although i'd go perruad)

Charles

Stu Alcaraz 

Tella Adams AA 

Tough game, i'm gonna go 2-2 or 2-1 Plymouth. 

Should appear on YouTube soon. Also, the highlights of the Norwich game took almost a day to go up on the Southampton YouTube channel.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Sussex_saint said:

Should appear on YouTube soon. Also, the highlights of the Norwich game took almost a day to go up on the Southampton YouTube channel.

It used to be live though, didn't it? Maybe I'm getting old and just dont understand the process of how they upload these things! 

[Jack]

16 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Can someone provide bullet points?

• we can’t defend 

• we haven’t signed anyone 

• we are shit

• we will fail to win 

• some dross about Plymouth being amazing 

• some dross about Exeter fans 

Edited 18 August, 2023 by Jack

[Greenridge]

Sensed frustration from RM to the outgoings, lack of incomings and current depth of squad. 
 

‘it would be nice to be left with some players’ and other comments. 

[CamSaint]

15 minutes ago, Dman said:

It used to be live though, didn't it?

It was. I watched it on the Saints Official Site.

[Nolan]

51 minutes ago, Dman said:

Do the club not show the Press conference on Twitter / youtube anymore? Or am I just being thick? 

 

A shame Downes isn't about for this one, we could have really done with him. Especially with Smallbones absence. Side picks itself for me; 

Bazunu

KWP Janny B Stephens Manning (although i'd go perruad)

Charles

Stu Alcaraz 

Tella Adams AA 

Tough game, i'm gonna go 2-2 or 2-1 Plymouth. 

It was on Live on Twitter at 8.30am this morning, dont think the time was preannounced though

 

 

[skintsaint]

[Dman]

18 minutes ago, CamSaint said:

It was. I watched it on the Saints Official Site.

 

9 minutes ago, Nolan said:

It was on Live on Twitter at 8.30am this morning, dont think the time was preannounced though

 

 

Cheers - must have missed it then. Will keep an eye open for next week 👍

[The Kraken]

19 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

That’s a relief. CM is the area we’re very much light in right now, a lot of responsibility in young Charles’ shoulders this weekend as there’s not much other midfield grit to pair him with. Feels like we’ve got to get through tomorrow then look to strengthen with hopefully both Smallbone coming back and Downes coming in, then it’ll feel much better.

[Midfield_General]

After last week I think we'll look to close them down fast, keep it tight at the back and be really switched on defending set pieces and crosses, and as a result will grind out a turgid 12-12 draw. 

[Saint Garrett]

Any shouts for away pubs? Ideally not spoons if can be helped. 

Both before and after the game? Appreciate it's early KO...

Long time since I've been to Plymouth, so no idea of any good pubs 

[Janner]

On 17/08/2023 at 16:19, AlexLaw76 said:

No, but we went straight to the Premier League first shout, and the bulk of those players took us to European football..

Plymouth have been brilliant, and think you have an exceptional manager. But you aint going up this season (or next)

You guys may be for a little shock on Sat. An entertaining 3-1 win to Argyle. 

Edited 18 August, 2023 by Janner

[Saint IQ]

Just seen all our games selected for TV. 6 games in the first 2 months! Almost more than last season already

Good to be back in the championship 🥳

[AlexLaw76]

5 minutes ago, Janner said:

You guys may be for a little shock on Sat. An entertaining 3-1 to Argyle. 

I dont think so (the shock part), many/most of us here get that you are a really good team and we are light in many areas.

[Convict Colony]

Gonna be watching this as i travel down the autobahn at 150kph so wonder who will hit the post first, me or players.

[saintant]

If we win this tough away game and do it in some style it'll put down a marker that we can be considered early contenders for promotion.  A draw would be ok with me and maybe even a narrow defeat.  Anything else will ramp up the pressure to replace some of those who've been sold and bring in some new faces. Looking forward to seeing how the game unfolds because it's a difficult one to call.

[skintsaint]

10 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Gonna be watching this as i travel down the autobahn at 150kph so wonder who will hit the post first, me or players.

Be brave and hit the 200. Its good fun and will be the same outcome hitting a post!

[coalman]

18 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Gonna be watching this as i travel down the autobahn at 150kph so wonder who will hit the post first, me or players.

I see your autobahn and raise you a free bar.

[Convict Colony]

45 minutes ago, coalman said:

I see your autobahn and raise you a free bar.

Easy win for the coalman

[Bad Wolf]

2 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Any shouts for away pubs? Ideally not spoons if can be helped. 

Both before and after the game? Appreciate it's early KO...

Long time since I've been to Plymouth, so no idea of any good pubs 

The Bank is decent. We're going to the Embassy before the game but it's a home only pub so no Saints shirts.

[Janner]

8 hours ago, sfc4prem said:

Such pessimism based on one game and some transfer inaction.

Russell's had another week training the team. Let's see what they produce on the pitch. Backed by a raucous away following fuelled by beer, there'll be a real desire and focus I think.

3-2 to Saints.

Where are you intending to drink and when given it’s a 12:30 ko? I’d have thought you’d be stone cold sober! 😂

[saintant]

Don't know much about Plymouth other than they are meant to have a pacey forward line. They'll fancy it against Bednarek and Stephens.

[sfc4prem]

6 minutes ago, Janner said:

Where are you intending to drink and when given it’s a 12:30 ko? I’d have thought you’d be stone cold sober! 😂

On the train, coach, and in the car.

[niceandfriendly]

9 minutes ago, Janner said:

Where are you intending to drink and when given it’s a 12:30 ko? I’d have thought you’d be stone cold sober! 😂

Don’t underestimate our ability to get drunk before 12.30 in the afternoon. 

[Green Army 75]

29 minutes ago, saintant said:

Don't know much about Plymouth other than they are meant to have a pacey forward line. They'll fancy it against Bednarek and Stephens.

The whole team is quick. I’ve never seen anything like it.  (Our right back will stand out as being slow tomorrow due to injuries to others who play there). 

We hope you play a high line and try to press us in our half and leave space in behind.  Hardie, Mumba and Whittaker are all lightening quick and the right ball will get played eventually.  Randall and Cundle in midfield are hugely competitive and are both box to box midfielders as well. 
 

I think this constant threat of pace is why we score so many goals in the final 30 mins of games.  Defenders just get worn down. 

Although we know your team is of a different quality and we’d take a point right now if you offered it.  
 

 

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, Green Army 75 said:

The whole team is quick. I’ve never seen anything like it.  (Our right back will stand out as being slow tomorrow due to injuries to others who play there). 

We hope you play a high line and try to press us in our half and leave space in behind.  Hardie, Mumba and Whittaker are all lightening quick and the right ball will get played eventually.  Randall and Cundle in midfield are hugely competitive and are both box to box midfielders as well. 
 

I think this constant threat of pace is why we score so many goals in the final 30 mins of games.  Defenders just get worn down. 

Although we know your team is of a different quality and we’d take a point right now if you offered it.  
 

 

Based on your second paragraph, I can see a comfortable 3-0 win for Plymouth.

[Green Army 75]

Don’t underestimate the quality you have in your team though.  
 

Most of our team played in league 1 last year and most of yours played in the Premiership.  
 

You should be confident of coming here, dominating the ball, keeping it tight at the back and nicking a goal from a set piece etc.  

[Convict Colony]

Sounds like it will be another 4-4 then

[The Kraken]

18 minutes ago, Green Army 75 said:

Don’t underestimate the quality you have in your team though.  
 

Most of our team played in league 1 last year and most of yours played in the Premiership.  
 

You should be confident of coming here, dominating the ball, keeping it tight at the back and nicking a goal from a set piece etc.  

You obviously don’t watch us much to be confident in that 😉

[SaintsFan86]

A fan caught the players getting off the team bus earlier in Plymouth. 

So I asked who she saw. 

Tella and Adams are there apparently.

[Pamplemousse]

Apparently the Plymouth pitch isn't the best quality, I guess we'll see but hope that doesn't have an impact on us.

[Green Army 75]

Who told you that??!!!

The pitch will be excellent.  

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Green Army 75 said:

Don’t underestimate the quality you have in your team though.  
 

Most of our team played in league 1 last year and most of yours played in the Premiership.  
 

You should be confident of coming here, dominating the ball, keeping it tight at the back and nicking a goal from a set piece etc.  

Keeping it tight at the back 🙂

[saint lard]

16 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

A fan caught the players getting off the team bus earlier in Plymouth. 

So I asked who she saw. 

Tella and Adams are there apparently.

She’s my friend,used to work with her. She travels all over with her kids to see saints. 
they spotted the coach and gave it a follow. Got drenched waiting for them to get off. I asked her the same question. 

[Saint_clark]

27 minutes ago, Green Army 75 said:

Who told you that??!!!

The pitch will be excellent.  

Like a front garden in Swilly, i'm sure. 

[SaintsFan86]

23 minutes ago, saint lard said:

She’s my friend,used to work with her. She travels all over with her kids to see saints. 
they spotted the coach and gave it a follow. Got drenched waiting for them to get off. I asked her the same question. 

I'm following her on Twitter, travels everywhere... Fair play to her.

[Lighthouse]

3 hours ago, Janner said:

Where are you intending to drink and when given it’s a 12:30 ko? I’d have thought you’d be stone cold sober! 😂

I’ll be on the sherry from 8am. It’s got to be Christmas morning somewhere, right?

[woodsaint1]

It'll be a windy one, always is at Home Park. Lets see how that affects our inability to defend crosses/set pieces

[Streaky]

3 hours ago, Green Army 75 said:

The whole team is quick. I’ve never seen anything like it.  (Our right back will stand out as being slow tomorrow due to injuries to others who play there). 

We hope you play a high line and try to press us in our half and leave space in behind.  Hardie, Mumba and Whittaker are all lightening quick and the right ball will get played eventually.  Randall and Cundle in midfield are hugely competitive and are both box to box midfielders as well. 
 

I think this constant threat of pace is why we score so many goals in the final 30 mins of games.  Defenders just get worn down. 

Although we know your team is of a different quality and we’d take a point right now if you offered it.  
 

 

You will be more worn out having 20% possesion and chasing shadows.

[skintsaint]

4 hours ago, Green Army 75 said:

The whole team is quick. I’ve never seen anything like it.  (Our right back will stand out as being slow tomorrow due to injuries to others who play there). 

We hope you play a high line and try to press us in our half and leave space in behind.  Hardie, Mumba and Whittaker are all lightening quick and the right ball will get played eventually.  Randall and Cundle in midfield are hugely competitive and are both box to box midfielders as well. 
 

I think this constant threat of pace is why we score so many goals in the final 30 mins of games.  Defenders just get worn down. 

Although we know your team is of a different quality and we’d take a point right now if you offered it.  
 

 

Sit back then kick n rush. Got it.