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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

The 2nd Tier podcast believe we have a ridiculous squad for this league....Edwards and Charles would be starting for at least 20 other sides...they will do well to both start for us in the same game consistently this term

 

Second Tier Podcast is the perfect name for it.

They had the biggest agenda against us two years back 🤣

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It was largely known we needed to reduce the squad but then people moan when someone leaves and isn’t replaced. Ultimately it’s where we land on 1st Sept that we need to worry about not 8th Aug.

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7 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I'm sure I saw you comment on the mods not taking action, just in time for most of this page to vanish for some reason. 🙂

It would be odd for a whole new set of people to repeat the same recruitment errors as their predecessors. But they are working under similar SR principles. Player trading ticks a season on season goal for them, and selling Fernandes and certainly Dibling achieves that.

It's then down to the quality of the new crop of players to come in for future sales. 

Baz - Saga - Edwards - Quarshie (THB) - Welington

Charles - Downes

AA - Aribo - Edozie (Robinson)

Stewart (Downs)

With Aribo and Edozie very possibly gone too, it really does have gaps.

 

Is Stewart ahead of Downs? Not sure about that, from what I saw of Downs in the Gold Cup and the way he took the goal in pre-season as soon as he is fit he should play. So Stewart has a small window to prove himself.

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Ipswich have lost Cajuste who was their best midfielder on loan. Obviously Philips but he was generally poor. Morsy who although old, made them tick, Burgess on a free, Delap for good money, look like losing Hutchinson. Can't have much spending power even with sales due to the spending rules after the last few windows.

They have Jack Clarke and Philogene though who are dangerous wingers. Think they signed a midfielder from France, possibly WSs old team.

 

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Maybe there should be a  HCDAJFU thread.. 

Ben Sheaf Coventry last year of contract,  low wage could provide completion for downes and Charles.

We need to get out of this division first time of asking... 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Second Tier Podcast is the perfect name for it.

They had the biggest agenda against us two years back 🤣

I’ve just started listening to these guys and find it a really difficult listen. They sound like they hate each other.

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Still expecting plenty of others to leave, squad is still too big. 
 

Dibling, Fernandes, ABK, Taylor, THB, Aribo, Edozie. I’d still like to see the back of BBD too. 
 

Probably would then need atleast 2 attacking players, wouldn’t say no to getting  David Brooks back. Not sure how much game times he’s expecting at Bournemouth and very nearly joined WBA. Maybe also a keeper but I think that can wait possibly, Bazunu is growing. 
 

Leaves:

Bazunu, Macca

Bree, Suga

Welington, Manning

Stephens, Edwards, Quashie, Wood, Sanda 

Smallbone, Charles, Downes, Sesay

Fraser, Robinson, Matsuki (out on loan?)

Arma, Downs, Stewart, Archer

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THB isn't going anywhere with his knock. Whilst I completely agree that replacing Bazunu is a no brainer, I've made peace with the fact that we're definitely not doing it.

Got a shit load of strikers already and therefore I'd imagine the only remaining incomers will be midfielders, whether holding midfield cover, attacking midfield or wide player(s).

Buonanotte, Encisco, Esse, Echeverri and maybe Fabio Carvalho are some of the higher end options coming to mind who may become available for a loan? Perhaps Nyoni at Liverpool who has seemingly had a good preseason as well.

Rudoni would be my absolute number one target right now if we've got the capability for a permanent deal.

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Was just reading the Everton forum and they seem pretty convinced that Dibling will be signing for them this week. I'll be fucking amazed if he ends up there, personally.

They have also been linked to Maitland-Niles and are happy to overlook his terrible performances for us because it was just being at Southampton that dragged him down 😂

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4 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Maybe also a keeper but I think that can wait possibly, Bazunu is growing. 

Leaves:

Bazunu, Macca

Even if Gavin Bazunu is 1st choice we still need another keeper, as Joe Lumley left.

I doubt the club will use Dylan Moody as 3rd choice for league games beyond the end of the window. 3rd choice keepers go to every 1st team game even if not on the subs bench, if he did that he'd miss academy gametime that a 17 year old keeper needs to develop.

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8 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

THB isn't going anywhere with his knock. 

Minor injuries do not prevent transfers. Medicals look for injuries that will impact the future. You can pass a medical even if you are currently injured. Plus in any case he is already back in training so not injured.

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Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Minor injuries do not prevent transfers. Medicals look for injuries that will impact the future. You can pass a medical even if you are currently injured. Plus in any case he is already back in training so not injured.

Indeed. Witness several of our previous signings.... :)

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Posted
1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

If you are talking about Ross Stewart, his was not a minor injury.

Which makes a mockery of the entire medical process really.

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3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Minor injuries do not prevent transfers. Medicals look for injuries that will impact the future. You can pass a medical even if you are currently injured. Plus in any case he is already back in training so not injured.

They’ll look at how it’s healed but yes, essentially medical have proportional risk built into them. Hence Ross Stewart and Sofaine Boufal were signed but in both cases their time at Saints never really got going because they’d effectively missed pre-seasons so that risk element comes in again. You’d have to look at their overall fitness pattern over a few years to work out what is one-off injury and what is a body not able to cope with the demands of the Premier League. 

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6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Minor injuries do not prevent transfers. Medicals look for injuries that will impact the future. You can pass a medical even if you are currently injured. Plus in any case he is already back in training so not injured.

Minor injury combined with not being that deserving of a large enough financial package to warrant a move will stop it, however.

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Just now, Saint Matty 76 said:

Minor injury combined with not being that deserving of a large enough financial package to warrant a move will stop it, however.

That’s more like it, the summer injury on his ankle is an irritating factor for buying clubs as he’d be playing catch up at PL level and he didn’t have a very good campaign last year in spite of what his potential might be thought to be. So if their first choice centre half does their ACL opening day of the season, THB isn’t going to be able to step in and hit the ground running as an immediate replacement. 

Throw in that we already paid £20m and City have sell on, length of contract, so right now, buying clubs don’t think he’s worth north of £30m. And they are probably right. 

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22 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Buonanotte, Encisco, Esse, Echeverri and maybe Fabio Carvalho are some of the higher end options coming to mind who may become available for a loan? Perhaps Nyoni at Liverpool who has seemingly had a good preseason as well.

Interesting shouts.  The Norwegian wonderkid who City signed also seems very “Sport Republic” - Not sure what profile Spors will adopt.

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12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

If you are talking about Ross Stewart, his was not a minor injury.

That is one of most shocking business decisions, let alone a football one, I’ve ever seen. Dragan really should have sacked both the member of staff who pushed for it and the one who signed it off without proper or any due diligence. In total with the promotion clause it cost £10m plus whatever the wages and bonuses have been. Who lets their employees throw away £15m+ wantonly like that? 

They were incredibly lucky Che’s move to Wolves didn’t get over the line.

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20 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Minor injuries do not prevent transfers. Medicals look for injuries that will impact the future. You can pass a medical even if you are currently injured. Plus in any case he is already back in training so not injured.

I fully expect THB to end up somewhere like Burnley, West Ham, Palace or Everton before the window closes - a lower end Premier league club that needs to add some depth to its centre back ranks. It makes sense for clubs to wait until he is pretty much training as normal and ready to play for us before they splash the cash on a fee and wages.  To be honest I would imagine we are not rushing him in to games for us as we want to sell him and don't want him to get injured again before we sell him.

THB also wants to move as he thinks he has a chance of getting an England place - and need to be in the premier league for that.

Whether he's really good enough for that or the premier league is another matter. 

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52 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Which makes a mockery of the entire medical process really.

I'm assuming the medical simply highlights any issues and the club can decide whether they want to take that risk or not.

It seems we were happy to on that occasion!

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31 minutes ago, Rebel said:

I fully expect THB to end up somewhere like Burnley, West Ham, Palace or Everton before the window closes - a lower end Premier league club that needs to add some depth to its centre back ranks. 

I'm not so sure, maybe in January. He was poor in the Premier League last season, everybody including potential buyers know that, added to which he's had zero pre-season. I can see clubs possibly taking a punt in January but cant really see anyone reaching our valuation under the current circumstances.

 

(He'll now be gone by the end of the week 😂

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30 minutes ago, Rebel said:

I fully expect THB to end up somewhere like Burnley, West Ham, Palace or Everton before the window closes - a lower end Premier league club that needs to add some depth to its centre back ranks. It makes sense for clubs to wait until he is pretty much training as normal and ready to play for us before they splash the cash on a fee and wages.  To be honest I would imagine we are not rushing him in to games for us as we want to sell him and don't want him to get injured again before we sell him.

THB also wants to move as he thinks he has a chance of getting an England place - and need to be in the premier league for that.

Whether he's really good enough for that or the premier league is another matter. 

I think that our trio of talented youngsters (MF, TD and THB) appear to be going along with agent advice and agitation this summer - purely financial motive - but have the gut feeling that if they end up at the likes of Burnley, Palace, Everton etc. that things will turn sour very quickly.  All three should perhaps focus on development rather than the quick bucks, but that's not the modern game I suppose.    

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7 hours ago, HnycS said:

Is Stewart ahead of Downs? Not sure about that, from what I saw of Downs in the Gold Cup and the way he took the goal in pre-season as soon as he is fit he should play. So Stewart has a small window to prove himself.

Is Downs not fit then? What is his injury? Hope it's not the old chestnut that he's only just signed and missed a bit of pre-season. If he's our best centre forward then he should start against Wrexham. Let's face it, the competition isn't great.

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2 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

I think that our trio of talented youngsters (MF, TD and THB) appear to be going along with agent advice and agitation this summer - purely financial motive - but have the gut feeling that if they end up at the likes of Burnley, Palace, Everton etc. that things will turn sour very quickly.  All three should perhaps focus on development rather than the quick bucks, but that's not the modern game I suppose.    

They probably want a better job with potentially better prospects which is not difficult to understand 

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12 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Second Tier Podcast is the perfect name for it.

They had the biggest agenda against us two years back 🤣

Any recommendations for Championship focused podcasts other than the Second Tier pod? I listen Ed to that last time we were in the Champ but not sure I can do another season of it..!

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12 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Honestly think its beyond embarrassing when players kick off like this. They signed a contract - get on with it. You can ask the club to leave, but ultimately you committed to respecting the club and to play for them for the duration of the contract. I'd steer clear of any player that has a strop or says they're unable to play because they "supposedly" can't handle speculation about getting more money (think we all know its because he's having a tantrum) - smacks of a troublesome attitude to me, and a player that can't be relied on in a crunch.

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

If you are talking about Ross Stewart, his was not a minor injury.

I was attempting to be amusing / irreverent with little regard to any facts... Might have gone over certain people's heads though... ;)

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1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

THB isn't going anywhere with his knock. Whilst I completely agree that replacing Bazunu is a no brainer, I've made peace with the fact that we're definitely not doing it.

Got a shit load of strikers already and therefore I'd imagine the only remaining incomers will be midfielders, whether holding midfield cover, attacking midfield or wide player(s).

Buonanotte, Encisco, Esse, Echeverri and maybe Fabio Carvalho are some of the higher end options coming to mind who may become available for a loan? Perhaps Nyoni at Liverpool who has seemingly had a good preseason as well.

Rudoni would be my absolute number one target right now if we've got the capability for a permanent deal.

I'm still hoping we get that attacking midfield lad from Spurs on loan. Can't remember his name (was on loan to Leyton Orient last season)

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12 minutes ago, James said:

Any recommendations for Championship focused podcasts other than the Second Tier pod? I listen Ed to that last time we were in the Champ but not sure I can do another season of it..!

I only ever watch on YouTube but Benjamin Bloom wasn't too bad last time we were in the Championship, particularly when he had Sam Parkin with him.  Ipswich fan but seems quite balanced and fair.

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40 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

I think that our trio of talented youngsters (MF, TD and THB) appear to be going along with agent advice and agitation this summer - purely financial motive - but have the gut feeling that if they end up at the likes of Burnley, Palace, Everton etc. that things will turn sour very quickly.  All three should perhaps focus on development rather than the quick bucks, but that's not the modern game I suppose.    

Of all of our talented younger players - surely lallana will have been in Tyler's ear and told him to do a year excelling in the championship - it was the making of lallana.

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31 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm still hoping we get that attacking midfield lad from Spurs on loan. Can't remember his name (was on loan to Leyton Orient last season)

Donley. We still want him (amongst other Championship sides) but Maddison got a bad injury last night so I do wonder if Spurs will want to keep him now rather than loaning him out. 

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38 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm still hoping we get that attacking midfield lad from Spurs on loan. Can't remember his name (was on loan to Leyton Orient last season)

Jamie Donley. Is he ready for Championship? 

Does he play centrally? We were also linked with Guilherme from West Ham and the Swedish guy Zeneli who looks good. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

sign him up. very good keeper

Also, premier league teams interested. He’s not going to turn down one of them to stay in championship 

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57 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

Donley. We still want him (amongst other Championship sides) but Maddison got a bad injury last night so I do wonder if Spurs will want to keep him now rather than loaning him out. 

Are we even relatively close to signing anyone whatsoever? I know moves will most likely happen late due to the natural food chain of transfers.. but surely we must be deep into conversations with some at this stage? 

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