ErwinK1961 Posted Thursday at 13:33 Posted Thursday at 13:33 36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Sunderland were able to sign Wilson Isidor from Russia, so it is possible. Load of nonsense from Krasnodar. They just don’t want to sell him to us, as they don’t want to be seen to be selling their best player and captain to a second division team. They’re clearly hoping a better financial deal will come (which it doesn’t look like it will). Sign Azaz instead and move on. Hopefully Spertsyan runs his contract and gets out of there for his own careers sake next year.
Willo of Whiteley Posted Thursday at 13:36 Posted Thursday at 13:36 I’m sure Krasnodar could do with the money. Walk away, move on. They can miss out 😂
Dman Posted Thursday at 13:39 Posted Thursday at 13:39 2 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Load of nonsense from Krasnodar. They just don’t want to sell him to us, as they don’t want to be seen to be selling their best player and captain to a second division team. They’re clearly hoping a better financial deal will come (which it doesn’t look like it will). Sign Azaz instead and move on. Hopefully Spertsyan runs his contract and gets out of there for his own careers sake next year. The english second division is an absolute mile better than the noody russian leauge. When you factor in money, support and reward for promotion - there aren't many in the world better. Only top leauges in England, Germany, Spain and maybe france come close. 1
Appy Posted Thursday at 13:42 Posted Thursday at 13:42 Can Kabore attack and defend? Would make a change from our current two right backs.
bugenhagen Posted Thursday at 13:46 Posted Thursday at 13:46 39 minutes ago, trousers said: By my reckoning (courtesy of Wikipedia), 17 out of the 36 players listed in the Portugese international squad play in leagues ranked lower than the Championship. You can therefore understand Still's obvious frustration that you've got Roberto Martinez seemingly / effectively attempting to encourage Fernandes to leave the club.... As I took it. Still said it in an answer to if it is frustrating to move players out. I read it as maybe Aribo, or one of our players that we have lined up a move for, only for it to halt, because of an international manager saying the league we are selling to, is not of high enough standard. Then Blackmore brought up the Championship in his next question, Still did not say the Championship was a problem, he just agreed when Adam did his normal routine of answering his own questions before he asks them.
trousers Posted Thursday at 13:47 Posted Thursday at 13:47 (edited) 4 hours ago, Saint NL said: Quite the Irish contingent. Bazunu, Manning, Smallbone, Azaz(?) and I think there are a couple of promising youth players as well. Should make my hoped for pre-season friendly with Glasgow Rangers next summer a bit more spicy... Edited Thursday at 13:49 by trousers
Give it to Ron Posted Thursday at 13:48 Posted Thursday at 13:48 16 minutes ago, OldNick said: My sources tell me that they have offered £32m and a selection of their saucy magazines Nuts 1
goodymatt Posted Thursday at 13:49 Posted Thursday at 13:49 International manager would apply to Ramsdale and Fernandes only? THB won’t be anywhere near without Lee Carsley.
Lighthouse Posted Thursday at 13:49 Posted Thursday at 13:49 53 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Nah Lighthouse is real, I played in midfield with him for one of the Saints fan games once 😂 I think I was supposed to be playing CB, shows how sh*t my positioning was. I think it was the WBA fans game they didn’t turn up for. 1
trousers Posted Thursday at 13:51 Posted Thursday at 13:51 4 hours ago, CSA96 said: West Ham ITK exWHUEmployee's most recent update: “West Ham and Southampton are still miles apart in their valuations of the player. The club have denied reports that they have bid £40m and have said that this is far too much for him, but Southampton are said to be looking for around £50m for the player. “It is thought that West Ham’s offer currently sits at £32m with a few clauses on top. Unless one party seriously budges, it looks like a deal will be hard to conclude. We are looking at inserting various add-ons to try and get closer to the price but there is still a long way to go.” 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Just ridiculous we are never going to agree to that. Wasting our time. 19 minutes ago, OldNick said: My sources tell me that they have offered £32m and a selection of their saucy magazines 3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Nuts Indeed, I thought they were Loaded...
Convict Colony Posted Thursday at 13:51 Posted Thursday at 13:51 I look forward to the Armenians x insiders v the paid Russia shills battling for Spertsyan's soul.
Give it to Ron Posted Thursday at 13:52 Posted Thursday at 13:52 Just now, trousers said: Indeed, I thought they were Loaded... He’s just a Playboy anyway
Willo of Whiteley Posted Thursday at 13:54 Posted Thursday at 13:54 WestHamCentral/Ex-WHamEmployee They talk about Matty Fernandes more than Saints do. 1
Osvaldorama Posted Thursday at 13:54 Posted Thursday at 13:54 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Did that stop him from scoring 24 Championship goals to help get us promoted? From the right wing, as an inside forward, in a particular boring system, he did very well. Would never say otherwise. …But he isn’t a 9. Every time he plays up there we look worse for it as the ball constantly comes back at us. Edited Thursday at 13:55 by Osvaldorama 2
trousers Posted Thursday at 13:55 Posted Thursday at 13:55 3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: He’s just a Playboy anyway Head office in Mayfair?
Coastal Posted Thursday at 13:58 Posted Thursday at 13:58 23 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Load of nonsense from Krasnodar. They just don’t want to sell him to us, as they don’t want to be seen to be selling their best player and captain to a second division team. They’re clearly hoping a better financial deal will come (which it doesn’t look like it will). Sign Azaz instead and move on. Hopefully Spertsyan runs his contract and gets out of there for his own careers sake next year. The problem is after the Dibling affair clubs will be reluctant to do business with us in fear of our board pulling a fast one. What a palaver. 13 3
Smirking_Saint Posted Thursday at 13:58 Posted Thursday at 13:58 9 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I think I was supposed to be playing CB, shows how sh*t my positioning was. I think it was the WBA fans game they didn’t turn up for. Wasn’t it Watford ? Im sure it was at Fleming park ? The other one I played in I was asked to play attacking CB IIRC 😂
Nolan Posted Thursday at 13:59 Posted Thursday at 13:59 10 minutes ago, goodymatt said: International manager would apply to Ramsdale and Fernandes only? THB won’t be anywhere near without Lee Carsley. Suguwara 1
sockeye Posted Thursday at 14:00 Posted Thursday at 14:00 10 minutes ago, goodymatt said: International manager would apply to Ramsdale and Fernandes only? THB won’t be anywhere near without Lee Carsley. Could also apply to players that have left? Sule, Bednarek? 2
Tommy Mulgrew Posted Thursday at 14:02 Posted Thursday at 14:02 Summary of our offer and Krasodar’s refusal to accept it: https://sportwitness.co.uk/eduard-spertsyan-agent-angry-as-southampton-transfer-blocked-player-really-wants-saints/
sockeye Posted Thursday at 14:05 Posted Thursday at 14:05 I just can’t believe this Spertsyan business until the saintsmarching article comes out. 8
Strangely Brown Posted Thursday at 14:11 Posted Thursday at 14:11 11 minutes ago, Coastal said: The problem is after the Dibling affair clubs will be reluctant to do business with us in fear of our board pulling a fast one. What a palaver. Our board couldn’t pull a muscle let alone a fast one 😉 1
LegalEagle Posted Thursday at 14:12 Posted Thursday at 14:12 12 minutes ago, Coastal said: The problem is after the Dibling affair clubs will be reluctant to do business with us in fear of our board pulling a fast one. What a palaver. “Us”. You’re a fan of Liverpool’s reserve team. Tell your club to come back for Dibling when you can afford him. 2
Barsiem Posted Thursday at 14:14 Posted Thursday at 14:14 Not on Alfie's twitter feed so not sure where it's come from. Probably for the best on all three fronts, but we will need replacements
tdmickey3 Posted Thursday at 14:16 Posted Thursday at 14:16 17 minutes ago, Coastal said: The problem is after the Dibling affair clubs will be reluctant to do business with us in fear of our board pulling a fast one. What a palaver. 1
Mr Brightside Posted Thursday at 14:22 Posted Thursday at 14:22 7 minutes ago, Barsiem said: Not on Alfie's twitter feed so not sure where it's come from. Probably for the best on all three fronts, but we will need replacements Shame, still think Edozie would be useful in this league. 4
goodymatt Posted Thursday at 14:27 Posted Thursday at 14:27 In summary, rejected a bid but can’t rule out selling as we might meet their valuation. Will play this weekend but can’t guarantee he stays beyond that.
HnycS Posted Thursday at 14:27 Posted Thursday at 14:27 36 minutes ago, goodymatt said: International manager would apply to Ramsdale and Fernandes only? THB won’t be anywhere near without Lee Carsley. Was obviously referring to one of the Irish contingent, most likely Smallbone 😃. 1
goodymatt Posted Thursday at 14:33 Posted Thursday at 14:33 I wonder what the value of the bid Boro rejected for Azaz was, £12m apparently gets the job done.
SuperSAINT Posted Thursday at 14:39 Posted Thursday at 14:39 5 minutes ago, goodymatt said: I wonder what the value of the bid Boro rejected for Azaz was, £12m apparently gets the job done. If we’ve gone the West Ham route, probably £1.5m 4
Turkish Posted Thursday at 14:42 Posted Thursday at 14:42 36 minutes ago, sockeye said: I just can’t believe this Spertsyan business until the saintsmarching article comes out. I wont believe we're even interested until Sad Old Git starts a thread on it
VectisSaint Posted Thursday at 14:49 Posted Thursday at 14:49 1 hour ago, ErwinK1961 said: Load of nonsense from Krasnodar. They just don’t want to sell him to us, as they don’t want to be seen to be selling their best player and captain to a second division team. They’re clearly hoping a better financial deal will come (which it doesn’t look like it will). Sign Azaz instead and move on. Hopefully Spertsyan runs his contract and gets out of there for his own careers sake next year. So why don't Goztepe buy him and then loan him to us? Seems to work the other way. 2
AlexLaw76 Posted Thursday at 14:51 Posted Thursday at 14:51 Anyone think/ITk if we have, or will, make a higher bid for Azaz?
CSA96 Posted Thursday at 14:54 Posted Thursday at 14:54 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Anyone think/ITk if we have, or will, make a higher bid for Azaz? Not ITK but clubs don't tend to make first bids without having the willingness to make a second bid, if the player wants the move and the selling club isn't refusing to engage with the first offer
Polegategavin243 Posted Thursday at 14:57 Posted Thursday at 14:57 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Sunderland were able to sign Wilson Isidor from Russia, so it is possible. Is this a translation quirk, and it basically means we have made a very complicated offer for him with lots of add-ons they are not confident of receiving, or that they will take a long time to materialise 1
disconnect Posted Thursday at 14:58 Posted Thursday at 14:58 18 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: If we’ve gone the West Ham route, probably £1.5m TBF West Ham are used to getting stuff gifted to them cough Olympic tourist trap Stadium cough 🤣 1 2
Jack Posted Thursday at 15:06 Posted Thursday at 15:06 43 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: Shame, still think Edozie would be useful in this league. Not good enough for me. All stepovers and zero end product. We’ve seen more than enough of that in recent times 8
Saint Scott Posted Thursday at 15:08 Posted Thursday at 15:08 2 hours ago, SaintN14 said: Hello, Long time reader of the forum, first time poster.... There seems to be a slight pattern in Saints' recent transfers...I noticed with that Finn Azaz is represented by Unique Sports Group, an agency which also represents Will Still, THB, Archer, Quarshie as well as recent players such as Adams and Cornet (lol). TransferMarkt lists other players represented by Unique Sports Group https://www.transfermarkt.com/unique-sports-group/beraterfirma/berater/4142 I am not ITK - but maybe something to keep an eye on re other potential targets for this window and next? Up the saints, SN I think you're reading into this a little too much. Unique Sports Group is one of the largest agents in football, so naturally have a lot of players on their books. 1
CB Fry Posted Thursday at 15:10 Posted Thursday at 15:10 1 hour ago, ErwinK1961 said: Load of nonsense from Krasnodar. They just don’t want to sell him to us, as they don’t want to be seen to be selling their best player and captain to a second division team. They’re clearly hoping a better financial deal will come (which it doesn’t look like it will). Sign Azaz instead and move on. Hopefully Spertsyan runs his contract and gets out of there for his own careers sake next year. That does seem to be the situation. Feels like a "struggles to settle" type of player to me. WE MARCH ON
OldNick Posted Thursday at 15:10 Posted Thursday at 15:10 1 hour ago, trousers said: Head office in Mayfair? have you been on the Razzle
SWLondon Saint Posted Thursday at 15:25 Posted Thursday at 15:25 I did a job with a guy who'd studied and worked in Russia back in the 80's, and he said the key to understanding them is that nobody ever means anything they say, and they'll just deny it all anyway. Like being at the airport shop and asking for a bar of chocolate he could see and being told they don't sell chocolate, but when he just pointed and said 'That thing' they'd sell it to him. Basically they're probably looking for some kind of sneaky backhander and it'll either get sorted and there will no problem and they'll all be sweetness and light, or it won't and they'll say there was no offer, it was all just fake news. Or something like that. 1
SNSUN Posted Thursday at 15:27 Posted Thursday at 15:27 If Villa lose Ramsey and Rogers, they could struggle unless they bring the right players come in. Only so long you can rely on Watkins, McGinn and Mings.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Thursday at 15:38 Posted Thursday at 15:38 1 hour ago, Tommy Mulgrew said: Summary of our offer and Krasodar’s refusal to accept it: https://sportwitness.co.uk/eduard-spertsyan-agent-angry-as-southampton-transfer-blocked-player-really-wants-saints/ A follow up now saying it's the player not wanting to move. https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-transfer-rejection-getting-messy-now-the-focus-is-on-player/
Turkish Posted Thursday at 15:43 Posted Thursday at 15:43 4 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: A follow up now saying it's the player not wanting to move. https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-transfer-rejection-getting-messy-now-the-focus-is-on-player/ everything else points to player wanting move but club blocking it, i suspect this is a response from the club trying to shift the blame to the player
Harry_SFC Posted Thursday at 15:57 Posted Thursday at 15:57 12 minutes ago, Turkish said: everything else points to player wanting move but club blocking it, i suspect this is a response from the club trying to shift the blame to the player Indeed. Why would we keep bidding if we knew the player wasn't interested. Anyway the agent has come out and said the player wants the move. 2
ErwinK1961 Posted Thursday at 16:13 Posted Thursday at 16:13 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Turkish said: everything else points to player wanting move but club blocking it, i suspect this is a response from the club trying to shift the blame to the player 15 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Indeed. Why would we keep bidding if we knew the player wasn't interested. Anyway the agent has come out and said the player wants the move. Absolutely. Player wants to leave, club refuse to sell to us because they can’t accept the fact their best offer is from us, club then put blame at players door for refusing the move. I hope they lose him on a free next year. Edited Thursday at 16:13 by ErwinK1961
skintsaint Posted Thursday at 16:22 Posted Thursday at 16:22 1 hour ago, Polegategavin243 said: Is this a translation quirk, and it basically means we have made a very complicated offer for him with lots of add-ons they are not confident of receiving, or that they will take a long time to materialise They probably not confident on the promotion fee bonus and avoiding relegation in the PL bonus, don't blame them on the 2nd part!!
Wade Garrett Posted Thursday at 16:36 Posted Thursday at 16:36 12 minutes ago, skintsaint said: They probably not confident on the promotion fee bonus and avoiding relegation in the PL bonus, don't blame them on the 2nd part!! I don’t blame them to be fair. Just agree a price and get it done, or walk away. They want cash, not add-ons. 2
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