S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 17:25 Posted yesterday at 17:25 Just now, Fabrice29 said: I'd say the chances of the bolded above going anywhere are slim at most. Rest all likely to leave and rightly so. I reckon there will be takers for Downes, and he seems the sort who will jump ship at the whiff of trouble - he tried to do it in January. Manning/Stephens, maybe they will be hard to shift this summer, that's why I think this remould will take a good few windows to accomplish as we may well be waiting for some contracts to expire. Another season of Stephens at CB isn't going to fill the stadium though, that's for sure. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 17:27 Posted yesterday at 17:27 4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: I'd say the chances of the bolded above going anywhere are slim at most. Rest all likely to leave and rightly so. Only because Argyle or Truro can’t afford his wages.
LGTL Posted yesterday at 17:28 Posted yesterday at 17:28 Yeah Downes will go because he’s a little cry baby pussy. Would absolutely love to sell Manning, Stephens and Smallbone too. What a trio of absolute wank they are. Unfortunately we’re probably stuck with those gimps. 7
tdmickey3 Posted yesterday at 17:29 Posted yesterday at 17:29 5 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: I'd say the chances of the bolded above going anywhere are slim at most. Rest all likely to leave and rightly so. And loved/ signed by your hero, Russell fuckin Martin
Fabrice29 Posted yesterday at 17:35 Posted yesterday at 17:35 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: And loved/ signed by your hero, Russell fuckin Martin Only because he made you look like an idiot last season 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I reckon there will be takers for Downes, and he seems the sort who will jump ship at the whiff of trouble - he tried to do it in January. Manning/Stephens, maybe they will be hard to shift this summer, that's why I think this remould will take a good few windows to accomplish as we may well be waiting for some contracts to expire. Another season of Stephens at CB isn't going to fill the stadium though, that's for sure. Not convinced Downes will attract the suitors needed tbh. Will take an offer around us getting our money back, or at least somewhere close so presumably a PL budget. Would a newly promoted team go for him again based on this season? Not sure. My prediction isn’t necessarily based on the players quality btw. It’s opportunity, affordability and wages that rules out moves for those guys. Edited yesterday at 17:35 by Fabrice29 1
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 17:37 Posted yesterday at 17:37 1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said: Only because he made you look like an idiot last season Not convinced Downes will attract the suitors needed tbh. Will take an offer around us getting our money back, or at least somewhere close so presumably a PL budget. Would a newly promoted team go for him again based on this season? Not sure. My prediction isn’t necessarily based on the players quality btw. It’s opportunity, affordability and wages that rules out moves for those guys. £18m for Downes wasn’t it? Cannot see anyone wanting to pay anywhere near that, maybe £10-12m from Ipswich if McKenna stays there and still interested.
EBS1980 Posted yesterday at 17:38 Posted yesterday at 17:38 Tbh I don’t really care who goes. They have shown (bar a couple) they aren’t good enough for the PL, so as long as we get a fair price for them I’d sell anyone who isn’t up for the fight of returning straight back up. 4
qwertyell Posted yesterday at 17:43 Posted yesterday at 17:43 (edited) Just a note for those who are convinced most of our current squad options will be fine for a Championship promotion push. Luton got relegated from the PL last season on 26 points (15 more than we're going to get), scoring 52 goals (we've managed 25), and conceding 85 goals (we're on 82 with 3 games to play). They retained mostly the same squad. And they'll be in League One next season. Football's pretty merciless when you're a bunch of losers who have become comfortable with losing. Clear them out. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Edited yesterday at 17:47 by qwertyell 7
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 17:43 Posted yesterday at 17:43 Can we do something revolutionary when signing players in the Summer. Look at what they can do now, not what they might achieve in 3 years time. I am fucking sick of our recruitment policy. Can we be like a normal football club. 5
revolution saint Posted yesterday at 17:48 Posted yesterday at 17:48 57 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: This is going to be a busy summer. This is who can go as far as I'm concerned. I've accepted Ramsdale, THB, KWP, Aribo, Suguwara, Dibling and Fernandes will leave Bednarek - His inability to defend has ruined my Saturdays for almost a decade. Needs to go Stephens - One of the worst CB's we've ever had. Needs to go Manning - Not good enough what so ever. Needs to go Downes - Injury prone and pretty lost. Get what we can for him, he's probably still got some value there. He's lost without his mate, maybe he can buy him for Leicester when he becomes their manager. Sulemana - Just fuck the fuck off. Awful player. Stewart - Pay him off and let the poor bloke retire. Archer - Terrible footballer, need shot. Smallbone - Awful player, weak as piss. No good keeping players of his standard around, drags the rest down. Onouachu - A big lump of shit in all honestly. Get what we can for him. ABK - Waste of a wage, just pay him off at this point. Fraser - We probably got his last somewhat usable year out of him, he's now done and we need shot. Larios - The wind would injure him. He needs to leave and play at a lower to amateur level in Spain, as his body cannot deal with the rigours of professional football. With the expected departures and the above also hopefully going, it'll leave us with McCarthy, Wood, Edwards, Wellington, Charles, Armstrong, BBD, Taylor, Bree. Obviously no where near enough, so we need to be signing lots and lots - and because of the upheaval that will likely take place over a couple of transfer windows, we will not be competitive for quite some time. Step 1 - Sort out the recruitment setup, looks like we've made a start at that. Step 2 - Use the new recruitment setup to appoint the correct manager and coaching staff to take us forward Step 3 - Use the new recruitment setup, the new management and coaches to build a team. Those steps happen over a few years for me, this isn't being fixed in one summer. As a wish list of players you’d like to get rid of then fair enough but realistically I doubt we’d be able to shift all of them. Take Downes, what did we pay? 20m? No premier league club either wants him or would pay that, and no championship club could justify it either. Ipswich possibly might want him but can’t see them paying anywhere near that for him. Sure you can take a loss but don’t go crying if PSR bites us in the ass in the future. 1
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 17:51 Posted yesterday at 17:51 6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Can we do something revolutionary when signing players in the Summer. Look at what they can do now, not what they might achieve in 3 years time. I am fucking sick of our recruitment policy. Can we be like a normal football club. The younger players haven't really been been the main issue. It is the older ones we've signed that are not good enough! 3
trousers Posted yesterday at 17:57 Posted yesterday at 17:57 12 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Just a note for those who are convinced most of our current squad options will be fine for a Championship promotion push. Luton got relegated from the PL last season on 26 points (15 more than we're going to get), scoring 52 goals (we've managed 25), and conceding 85 goals (we're on 82 with 3 games to play). They retained mostly the same squad. And they'll be in League One next season. How can that be? I thought relegated teams were almost guaranteed to be better than your average Championship side...? 3
BarberSaint Posted yesterday at 18:01 Posted yesterday at 18:01 9 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Why do you think AS Roma made a bid for him? Clickbait, nonsense, or too much wine. Don't care. Can someone just take him, Capn Jack, THB, Manning and Wood please?
Badger Posted yesterday at 18:55 Posted yesterday at 18:55 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: £18m for Downes wasn’t it? Cannot see anyone wanting to pay anywhere near that, maybe £10-12m from Ipswich if McKenna stays there and still interested. Possibly Leicester might bid for him if Lego goes there.
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 19:40 Posted yesterday at 19:40 44 minutes ago, Badger said: Possibly Leicester might bid for him if Lego goes there. It’d have to be later in the window to shift some PSR lumber and even then, can’t see how they’d get close to what the club would want. Ipswich is the most likely.
tdmickey3 Posted yesterday at 20:14 Posted yesterday at 20:14 2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Only because he made you look like an idiot last season Not convinced Downes will attract the suitors needed tbh. Will take an offer around us getting our money back, or at least somewhere close so presumably a PL budget. Would a newly promoted team go for him again based on this season? Not sure. My prediction isn’t necessarily based on the players quality btw. It’s opportunity, affordability and wages that rules out moves for those guys. You’re constant defending of him like a obsessed groupie through and after the utterly pathetic shit show he served up makes you the ultimate idiot. I admitted I got it wrong..but only just. You however are clinging on pathetically like a jilted lover, defending what every other person can see, Russell Martin was completely out of his depth and clueless. Dry your eyes and accept it 2 1
Fabrice29 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 8 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: You’re constant defending of him like a obsessed groupie through and after the utterly pathetic shit show he served up makes you the ultimate idiot. I admitted I got it wrong..but only just. You however are ..clinging on pathetically like a jilted lover, defending what every other person can see, Russell Martin was completely out of his depth and clueless. Dry your eyes and accept it I think my main defence of him has been that it wasn't just "he" that served up a shit show and the majority of the people that served it up still continue to play each week and continue to serve up a shit show. I'll probably continue that defence for now if that's okay with you, especially as I was told quite specifically by you and others things would undoubtedly be better when he left and my predictions that we would go through 3 managers again this season were laughed at... 3
Wade Garrett Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: The younger players haven't really been been the main issue. It is the older ones we've signed that are not good enough! ABK, Bazunu, Edozie, Charles, Larios, Sugawara, Wood off the top of my head. None of them can make the first team, although Charles was mismanaged and is the one out of them that could make a contribution. Add the older ones (and there are more of them) that are garbage and it paints a picture of a complete shitshow. 1
saintant Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 12 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Why do you think AS Roma made a bid for him? Maybe their recruitment team is sub standard. 2
Matthew Le God Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: ABK, Bazunu, Edozie, Charles, Larios, Sugawara, Wood off the top of my head. None of them can make the first team, although Charles was mismanaged and is the one out of them that could make a contribution. Add the older ones (and there are more of them) that are garbage and it paints a picture of a complete shitshow. So you agree with my post!
Wade Garrett Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: So you agree with my post! Partly. The young ones have been mostly shit and the older ones have been mostly shit. 1 3
Gloucester Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Alan Nixon saying we are looking at Anthony Patterson if Sunderland don’t go up. Mix of views on their forum, in summary very good shot stopper, less good off his line and communication not great. But at 25 those could be fixed. Some slight concerns about weight control/fitness as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Patterson Can’t see us paying what they might want but positive to see another goalkeeper link as Bazanu’s Belgian stint finally brought the club into reality. Edited 7 hours ago by Gloucester Saint 1
Suhari Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Alan Nixon saying we are looking at Anthony Patterson if Sunderland don’t go up. Mix of views on their forum, in summary very good shot stopper, less good off his line and communication not great. But at 25 those could be fixed. Some slight concerns about weight control/fitness as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Patterson Can’t see us paying what they might want but positive to see another goalkeeper link as Bazanu’s Belgian stint finally brought the club into reality. I'm glad we're seeing links to keepers. Baz is no way near good enough. 2
Doctoroncall Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Alan Nixon saying we are looking at Anthony Patterson if Sunderland don’t go up. Mix of views on their forum, in summary very good shot stopper, less good off his line and communication not great. But at 25 those could be fixed. Some slight concerns about weight control/fitness as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Patterson Can’t see us paying what they might want but positive to see another goalkeeper link as Bazanu’s Belgian stint finally brought the club into reality. When was the last time the club has improved a goalkeeper? 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 47 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said: When was the last time the club has improved a goalkeeper? We used to - Timmy, restored Beasant’s confidence, Jones, Niemi - but since Forster’s knee injury and Kelvin’s retirement, the goalkeeping department has been pathetic. Gunn we overpaid badly on (City yet again, what an aggregate of shit with Bazanu), McCarthy has gone backwards, Forster totally lost his mobility, Bazanu throw in far too young and badly overpaid. Coaching department miles away from the days of David Coles for keepers. Edited 6 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
bangkoksaint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Alan Nixon saying we are looking at Anthony Patterson if Sunderland don’t go up. Mix of views on their forum, in summary very good shot stopper, less good off his line and communication not great. But at 25 those could be fixed. Some slight concerns about weight control/fitness as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Patterson Can’t see us paying what they might want but positive to see another goalkeeper link as Bazanu’s Belgian stint finally brought the club into reality. Sunderland owe us big style for mugging us off over Ross!!
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, bangkoksaint said: Sunderland owe us big style for mugging us off over Ross!! A SR spokesman that "following Stewart's transfer, Southampton FC, along with our insurers, conducted a full review of medical and strategic risk at the club. We are pleased to be renewing our transfer dealing with Sunderland, with confidence in both our structure and in the talent of their goalkeeper."
Gloucester Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, bangkoksaint said: Sunderland owe us big style for mugging us off over Ross!! It’s up to the buying club to run a thorough medical and do the necessary due diligence, and very robustly so when the buying DoF is the selling manager’s brother. Obvious it was a huge risk and no certainty he’d be fit again, had only played 11 Champ games and was out of contract within 12 months 🤦♂️ In most firms, that kind of highly foreseeable and costly blunder = a meeting with the CEO/Ops Director, HR and strong hints to look elsewhere for a fresh start. Edited 2 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, Doctoroncall said: When was the last time the club has improved a goalkeeper? ...and by 25 haven't got pretty much the finished article anyway? If you don't come off your line at 25 you never will. 1
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