The Spygate Saga

[CSA96]

I wouldn't mind betting that some clubs who could have involved themselves decided to keep out of the shitshow with the playoff final and see what happens

I don't doubt that there's some opportunist execs out there around the league who might have seen that the precedent has been set at 3pts per game and now think they could stick the knife in and penalise a rival who have parachute payments

[The Wyvern]

2 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

I wouldn't mind betting that some clubs who could have involved themselves decided to keep out of the shitshow with the playoff final and see what happens

I don't doubt that there's some opportunist execs out there around the league who might have seen that the precedent has been set at 3pts per game and now think they could stick the knife in and penalise a rival who have parachute payments

Hypothetically, let’s say there’s evidence of us spying on 15 extra games last season. By the precedent set that would mean we get a further 30-45 points deduction? 🤣

At what point would it be capped?! 

[CSA96]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

Hypothetically, let’s say there’s evidence of us spying on 15 extra games last season. By the precedent set that would mean we get a further 30-45 points deduction? 🤣

At what point would it be capped?! 

Yeah that could be a very valid question… 😬

All the more reason to sack all associated with it to show the club is getting its house in order

[The Wyvern]

Also, hypothetically, there’s no time-bar on such claims? So a club could drop something in at any time they fancied?! 
 

This is the problem with rules, they always require more and more rules. 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Yeah that could be a very valid question… 😬

All the more reason to sack all associated with it to show the club is getting its house in order

That’ll be the trade off with other clubs and the EFL which is why there’s no chance Tonda stays.

[The Wyvern]

2 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Yeah that could be a very valid question… 😬

All the more reason to sack all associated with it to show the club is getting its house in order

Again, surely it can’t be a case of being able to sack staff to avoid a further punishment whenever a club gets caught doing something wrong. Just more evidence of very badly defined rules/punishment processes. 

[Gloucester Saint]

11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

If it is proven we have done this in other league games, it will obviously be -3 (or -2) for every instance.

As said earlier, we have been profilic for a large part of the season with it. Just depends if other clubs have concrete proof and want to go there.

Exposing their own activities as well.

Tonda will go, that will be the EFL’s price for not examining further.

[sockeye]

Imagine a world where everyone had dirt on everyone, the Championship becomes full spygate wars with point deductions everywhere, and the title winner for 2026/27 finishes on 25 points.  

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

Hypothetically, let’s say there’s evidence of us spying on 15 extra games last season. By the precedent set that would mean we get a further 30-45 points deduction? 🤣

At what point would it be capped?! 

That would be absurd. Bring it on 

[Ted Bates Statue]

1 hour ago, CSA96 said:

I wouldn't mind betting that some clubs who could have involved themselves decided to keep out of the shitshow with the playoff final and see what happens

I don't doubt that there's some opportunist execs out there around the league who might have seen that the precedent has been set at 3pts per game and now think they could stick the knife in and penalise a rival who have parachute payments

Oh great, so because we laughed at Gibbo today he's going to come after us again, but this time round up the other 22 clubs and hand them all pitchforks and torches, because who needs to play football and stick the ball in the back of the net when you can just sic your lawyers on Southampton instead?

Is this why we're being quiet now, everyone's been sacked in the vain hope that we get away with getting sent straight to League 1 next season, rather than fumble around in the same division like Sheffield Wednesday did, desperately trying to achieve a positive points total?

Edited 6 hours ago by Ted Bates Statue

[CanadaSaint]

I’m not clear on this. What was the proof that we spied on Oxford and Ipswich, other than our own admission?

Edited 2 hours ago by CanadaSaint

[Weston Super Saint]

7 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

If it is proven we have done this in other league games, it will obviously be -3 (or -2) for every instance.

As said earlier, we have been profilic for a large part of the season with it. Just depends if other clubs have concrete proof and want to go there.

Why do they need concrete proof?  Pathetic Phil will just put his hands in the air and own up won't he?

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, CanadaSaint said:

I’m not clear on this. What was the proof that we spied on Oxford and Ipswich, other than our own admission?

From the conversations with the intern and others during the investigation. It's not just us listing out confessions.

[Dman]

5 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

From the conversations with the intern and others during the investigation. It's not just us listing out confessions.

The FA can’t implement a points deduction, that’d have to come from the EFL? 

[Tamesaint]

Which Championship teams have training facilities which are open to the public and wouldn't require trespassing in order to spy? Boro clearly do and I know that Oxford do. How many others are there? 

[Weston Super Saint]

5 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

Which Championship teams have training facilities which are open to the public and wouldn't require trespassing in order to spy? Boro clearly do and I know that Oxford do. How many others are there? 

Eastleigh - so anyone training there the day before a match having travelled can be watched.  Although you'd like to think they wouldn't be working on tactics then! 

[Tamesaint]

2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Eastleigh - so anyone training there the day before a match having travelled can be watched.  Although you'd like to think they wouldn't be working on tactics then! 

Ipswich clearly trained there for the evening fixture. I doubt that other visiting teams would have time to go there for a 3pm kickoff. 

[Marsdinho]

Why are Eastleigh helping our rivals out, let them use condoms for goal posts on the common!

[offsidetrap]

2 hours ago, CanadaSaint said:

I’m not clear on this. What was the proof that we spied on Oxford and Ipswich, other than our own admission?

Eastleigh kit shop track suit receipt 

And maybe speeding ticket on A34

[leesaint88]

29 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

Which Championship teams have training facilities which are open to the public and wouldn't require trespassing in order to spy? Boro clearly do and I know that Oxford do. How many others are there? 

Not as many as people think. Portsmouth, Millwall and Hull are the ones I can think of. You can get a partial view of Wrexham from the hillside behind, but you’ll be certain testing the levels of performance on an iPhone for that one…