Toadhall Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, coalman said: I heard he was best mates with Azaz and couldn't wait to hook up with him again. I heard he’s pissed off with Boro as their manager is a useless cry baby and the rest of the team lack a goal threat and are knackered after 60 mins - so he wants out. Make of that what you will. 😉 1
Midfield_General Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, St Chalet said: Obviously there's not a lot to go on there regarding whatever the complexities are, but given the support that's been given to him by the club, you'd hope that Ross would repay that and sign if it's a fair deal. 3
The Kraken Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Hmm.interesting re. Stewart. He definitely needs his minutes managed, so with him and Larin basically sharing a striker’s spot it’s kind of ideal for him. But he may not see it that way, and with a World Cup now on him, he may be looking for more. Massive risk for any team signing him and expecting him to start 30+ games a season. 1
CSA96 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Solak says he has authorised the signing of a top player who can be creative and help Finn Azaz, as right now all of our creative reliance in midfield is on Azaz and if he's having a quiet game we don't have anyone else. Having another player like that will help, we can play the two together and/or rotate them Otherwise, he says that business this summer will be based on signing direct replacements for any players who leave. Happy with squad size and team showed last season what they are capable of, so doesn't feel it needs a huge overhaul like in previous years Edited 3 hours ago by CSA96
Saint NL Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Ryan Manning has asked to extend his contract at Southampton -- words you never expected to want to hear 3 11
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago That's a bit disappointing if Ross is looking to go elsewhere. I think he more than most other players owes us an extension. 8
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Saint NL said: Ryan Manning has asked to extend his contract at Southampton -- words you never expected to want to hear Get Bree in and that's most of the defence settled. If we can persuade THB then we are really in business.
RedArmy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: That's a bit disappointing if Ross is looking to go elsewhere. I think he more than most other players owes us an extension. Agreed. We got nothing out of that first year of his contract, he was injured. He needs to repay that by giving us that extra year.
Saint NL Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: That's a bit disappointing if Ross is looking to go elsewhere. I think he more than most other players owes us an extension. Depends on how world cup goes. He might play a blinder and get some teams sniffing around him; He might get injured and stay at Saints to recover 😂
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, trousers said: Just finished listening. Very encouraging and I like Solak a lot. I reckon Dragan is talking about Charles when he talks about players leaving.
Badger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Solak says he has authorised the signing of a top player who can be creative and help Finn Azaz, as right now all of our creative reliance in midfield is on Azaz and if he's having a quiet game we don't have anyone else. Having another player like that will help, we can play the two together and/or rotate them Otherwise, he says that business this summer will be based on signing direct replacements for any players who leave. Happy with squad size and team showed last season what they are capable of, so doesn't feel it needs a huge overhaul like in previous years Just don't spend 3 months chasing Spersians (sp?) shadow again and being pissed about
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Saint NL said: Depends on how world cup goes. He might play a blinder and get some teams sniffing around him; He might get injured and stay at Saints to recover 😂 True. If he gets injured I imagine he will be calling about that extension! 1
SambaMaverick Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Just finished listening. Very encouraging and I like Solak a lot. I reckon Dragan is talking about Charles when he talks about players leaving. Bizarre if United are truly after him, he's nowhere near good enough and will end up right back on loan in the Championship inside a year
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Bizarre if United are truly after him, he's nowhere near good enough and will end up right back on loan in the Championship inside a year Not sure that's true. He's a big game player and is still very young. I think he's good enough to play in the Prem and has a high ceiling. 1
Hopper Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Most encouraging line for me. "For every guy we thought might have an offer, we have five to six guys already lined up that we are monitoring, because it's also very important." You always hope that's the case but I'm glad to read it! 2
CSA96 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Bizarre if United are truly after him, he's nowhere near good enough and will end up right back on loan in the Championship inside a year Could we sell him to United and get Wilcox to loan him back to us for a year?
The Kraken Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Just finished listening. Very encouraging and I like Solak a lot. I reckon Dragan is talking about Charles when he talks about players leaving. I keep hearing this about Shea Charles from lots of fans, that he’s one of the most certain to leave this summer. He may be, but I don’t know where it comes from. He did some really good things for us no doubt. But, towards the end of the season, he wasn’t a starter for us. You’d think we’d only lose players (that we don’t want to lose) to the Premier League or abroad. Just don’t know who is lining up Shea Charles, unless Charles thinks he’s going nowhere here and actively wants out come what may. Edited 2 hours ago by The Kraken 1
Kenilworthy1959 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: True. If he gets injured I imagine he will be calling about that extension! I wouldn't have thought he was in that strong a position to bargain since he felt something in his knee this week that stopped him playing fro Scotland
SambaMaverick Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Not sure that's true. He's a big game player and is still very young. I think he's good enough to play in the Prem and has a high ceiling. But for United? He wouldn't get a start... let's not forget that he wasn't in our first choice eleven this season. Somewhere like Everton or Fulham would be a better move, but I can't see him playing often enough there either.
hypochondriac Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Kraken said: I keep hearing this about Shea Charles from lots of fans, that he’s one of the most certain to leave this summer. He may be, but I don’t know where it comes from. He did some really good things for us no doubt. But, towards the end of the season, he wasn’t a starter for us. You’d think we’d only lose players (that we don’t want to lose) to the Premier League or abroad. Just don’t know who is lining up Shea Charles, unless Charles thinks he’s going nowhere here and actively wants out come what may. He said we'd let players leave based on how long they've been here and their contracts. Based on players who may be in demand imo that makes Jander and Scienza less likely given they've only just signed for us. Maybe he means THB but some people have suggested he may be up for staying. He suggested in the interview that Azaz is staying so Charles is the most obvious one left . Edited 2 hours ago by hypochondriac
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago It’s a pony hipster phrase, but I’ll use it. His “ceiling” is what we’ll be losing, rather than what he’s actually producing week in week out. He’s not a guaranteed starter, was left out of big games, and personally I find him a bit too lackadaisical sometimes. But there’s no doubt there’s a talent in there. As disappointing as it will be to lose him, we’re strong in that area and Flynn Downes, despite being less talented, would probably be more of a miss. If he won’t sign a new contract, and we need to shift someone on, it makes sense it’s him. 4
sfc4prem Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 35 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Get Bree in and that's most of the defence settled. If we can persuade THB then we are really in business. I feel like we need someone to replace Stephens/Wood as part of the first choice pairing. Quarshie didn't cut it. 1
hypochondriac Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s a pony hipster phrase, but I’ll use it. His “ceiling” is what we’ll be losing, rather than what he’s actually producing week in week out. He’s not a guaranteed starter, was left out of big games, and personally I find him a bit too lackadaisical sometimes. But there’s no doubt there’s a talent in there. As disappointing as it will be to lose him, we’re strong in that area and Flynn Downes, despite being less talented, would probably be more of a miss. If he won’t sign a new contract, and we need to shift someone on, it makes sense it’s him. 100%. He's the player we would miss the least given we have to sell some.
The Kraken Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It’s a pony hipster phrase, but I’ll use it. His “ceiling” is what we’ll be losing, rather than what he’s actually producing week in week out. He’s not a guaranteed starter, was left out of big games, and personally I find him a bit too lackadaisical sometimes. But there’s no doubt there’s a talent in there. As disappointing as it will be to lose him, we’re strong in that area and Flynn Downes, despite being less talented, would probably be more of a miss. If he won’t sign a new contract, and we need to shift someone on, it makes sense it’s him. In my eyes there’s no maybe about it. Flynn Downes from January was like the Flynn Downes when we got promoted, an absolutely vital cog and made us tick. Shea Charles is a talent, but when Downes is at it he’s a 7+ almost every single game. 3
stknowle Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 38 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That's a bit disappointing if Ross is looking to go elsewhere. I think he more than most other players owes us an extension. Agree to an extent but ultimately he has to look after number 1. Say we offer him 1 year extension and he gets offers of 2 even 3 on similar money elsewhere he’d have to take the alternative. I guess it’s all down to how good the alternative bids are.
CSA96 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Šolak: I think the Daniel signing is a statement. I hope that in the next couple of days that we will have more that will show that very early in the window, actually even before the window opens I think, that we are showing that we mean serious business. 8
James G Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago We were looking for a response, and this is an occasion where actions definitely speak louder that words What a great day 4
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That's a bit disappointing if Ross is looking to go elsewhere. I think he more than most other players owes us an extension. Ross is likely being advised by his agent but he needs to be careful. This football club stood by him for long periods when he was unavailable, we've been extremely patient. He must realise that he is not suddenly going to be injury free and another club might give him less slack than we have. You'd think he would want to show us some loyalty but, as with integrity and fair play, that's a precious commodity in the murky world of football. At the end of the day it's his decision but hope he stays. 3
VectisSaint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 43 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Bizarre if United are truly after him, he's nowhere near good enough and will end up right back on loan in the Championship inside a year It's only bizarre because he is a City boy, not United. He is easily good enough for a top club in the PL. Hope he does stay but we didn't treat him too well when we loaned him out last season and may not feel so much of an attachment to us as some do. He will be a great player.
spyinthesky Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just finished listening to Dragan's interview with Adam Blackmore. Very encouraged by Dragan's response and makes me 100% committed to the club for yet another year. UTFS!!! 4
coalman Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, saintant said: Ross is likely being advised by his agent but he needs to be careful. This football club stood by him for long periods when he was unavailable, we've been extremely patient. He must realise that he is not suddenly going to be injury free and another club might give him less slack than we have. You'd think he would want to show us some loyalty but, as with integrity and fair play, that's a precious commodity in the murky world of football. At the end of the day it's his decision but hope he stays. We could've triggered the contract extension earlier. Waiting to see how the playoff final turned out isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. He also probably wants more than 1 year. I can see why he'd want to look into his options. Even if I also feel like we've spent a lot of time taking the footballer we bought and getting him playing again.
Osvaldorama Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 59 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That's a bit disappointing if Ross is looking to go elsewhere. I think he more than most other players owes us an extension. Id go further than that. Would be a disgrace if he doesn’t extend, after the amount we’ve spent with him injured. 1
Obstacle1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Not sure that's true. He's a big game player and is still very young. I think he's good enough to play in the Prem and has a high ceiling. Compare him to Mateus Fernandes who at 19 you could tell he was destined to play at a big club. I dont think Charles is the same calibre of player at the moment, although he does seem to have the knack of scoring very important goals 1
Verbal Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: Very encouraged by Dragan's response and makes me 100% committed to the club for yet another year. UTFS!!! Are you on loan from another club? Either way we thank you for signing on for another 12 months. 3
Baird of the land Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 32 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: He said we'd let players leave based on how long they've been here and their contracts. Based on players who may be in demand imo that makes Jander and Scienza less likely given they've only just signed for us. Maybe he means THB but some people have suggested he may be up for staying. He suggested in the interview that Azaz is staying so Charles is the most obvious one left . I'm hoping we keep hold of Charles. If we have to sell a midfielder i'd hope it would be Jander.
Danwulfe Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago With Ross he knows his time is limited, so I can't really blame him if he gets a big pay out elsewhere regardless of how much we nurtured him through his injuries. He's got the World Cup to showcase himself after all.
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Baird of the land said: I'm hoping we keep hold of Charles. If we have to sell a midfielder i'd hope it would be Jander. Opposite for me. Jander is going to be the better of the two. He'll soon be knocking on the door of the German national team. 7
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Danwulfe said: With Ross he knows his time is limited, so I can't really blame him if he gets a big pay out elsewhere regardless of how much we nurtured him through his injuries. He's got the World Cup to showcase himself after all. He'll probably play about 15 mins
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Quite the day. Lots of players will be seeing the advantages of staying with an in-form, promotion chasing side. From the rewards of promotion. But also the shop window, and satisfaction, of regular games at a very high level. There may be some PL clubs enquiring. But some thought has to go into potentially joining a side that comes straight back down. Then you've got the same wage reduction, and possibly less chance than we have of going back up. The sign on and PL wage spike may not be worth it long term. Not to mention upheaval and possibly just being a fringe player. Hopefully Bree sees it that way, and decides to stay. It's been a tough time for him under certain managers. But he's a consistently strong performer for us. SR set their stall out to pay wages that made transfers attractive. So, I can see him weighing up his options. Stewart is a different scenario. He's had a good end of it the season for us, with managed minutes. He's only played one season with over 25 league games in it. That was followed by 4 injury ravaged campaigns. Then this one, where he got injured in the early part of it. Sure, he could look at extending with us. Whether out of loyalty for previous injuries, or because we'll continue to manage him. But at 29, and with that injury record, I do understand him wanting to look for the best deal for him and his family. A guaranteed PL, or higher wage than ours, would make a difference should another injury occur. He'll have to stay fit over the World Cup, so he can get that best deal, wherever it is. A long term injury now would be grim for him
Baird of the land Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, saintant said: Opposite for me. Jander is going to be the better of the two. He'll soon be knocking on the door of the German national team. Don't know if he'll develop into more than he is but seems to me there's a lot of recency bias rather than season long view. His strength is as a DM and we've got a number of CM with that trait at the club, whereas Charles is our only CM who offers more of a threat.
Verbal Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, saintant said: Opposite for me. Jander is going to be the better of the two. He'll soon be knocking on the door of the German national team. V much this. But I doubt he'll stay.
Tamesaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, saintant said: Opposite for me. Jander is going to be the better of the two. He'll soon be knocking on the door of the German national team. He needs to be consistently good. He was great at the end of the season but was completely gash in January and February. Leicester away was a real lowpoint.
benjii Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 48 minutes ago, coalman said: We could've triggered the contract extension earlier. Waiting to see how the playoff final turned out isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. He also probably wants more than 1 year. I can see why he'd want to look into his options. Even if I also feel like we've spent a lot of time taking the footballer we bought and getting him playing again. According to Solak we had to trigger it within 5 days after the last game of the season but we didn't know we'd had our last game of the season.
benjii Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago With these two, plus the need for a new 10 announced, #announceHackney could start trending.
Baird of the land Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, benjii said: According to Solak we had to trigger it within 5 days after the last game of the season but we didn't know we'd had our last game of the season. Really amateur by the club. Guess we can all expect him to do something at the World Cup too now that we’ve wet the bed spectacularly.
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Really amateur by the club. Guess we can all expect him to do something at the World Cup too now that we’ve wet the bed spectacularly. The last game of the season was cancelled for us, so the previous last game was over 5 days away - I don't think it was something the club could help, just yet another resulting effect of the OTT punishment. 1
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