West Ham 2-3 Saints - Match Thread

[davefizzy14]

Peretz was sensational today 😊

Edited 5 hours ago by davefizzy14

[OneMrsWallace]

19 minutes ago, whelk said:

Just need JWP to tap Nuno on the head now

In the excitement I forgot about that. JWP must be buzzing. Sleep well Nuno 😂

[tdmickey3]

17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

If I had a fanny, it'd be wetter than the weather.

Yeah, but the smell🤢

[BARCELONASAINT]

That was an absolute rollacoaster, i really didn't see us winning today.

Hell of a performance from Peretz and a great rearguard defence from the team. Congratulations to the lads. The West Ham commentary team on my live stream were hilarious to listen to as they got more and more irate.

[Roo1976]

8 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Whew. Glad they didn't get that last corner. Not that they got much from the ton of them they got before then.

We raced off the blocks to get our lead. That was playing some nice passing, that West Ham couldn't deal with. With no Larin, we hadn't much in the box. But Matsuki, Dobbin and Azaz look to either set each other up, or make sure they are following in. 

They all do that from Leo's efforts too. And Dobbin seems happy to have longer range efforts too, which is a plus to keep defences on their toes.

Bree and Manning deliver different attacking threats. I've always liked Bree. So, I'm pleased to see another super goal from him.

We didn't exactly stop West Ham having decent efforts, when we dropped back. They had very strong spells. Peretz gets MOM for keeping us in it. That wasn't helped by our subs coming on, without a clear plan or the form to do much with it. Edozie has done more in other games he's been criticised in. Mubama did very little again.

A very good test that we can celebrate getting all 3 points from. 6th (but would be second)

Very good summary mate,bit nervy at times and we just hung in together at crucial times in the halves,probably going to take a couple of weeks to grow the nails back..................COYS.

[Vancouver Saint]

What's it like to have an outstanding goalkeeper eh? Peretz brilliant today.

Great result. Always fear the comeback when we sit off teams and try to protect a lead - we lack a clear outlet when everyone sits so deep and it just invites pressure back on.

Azaz solid again. Stephens did well. Dobbin played well and had tons of energy. Matsuki looked off his game after getting that knock. Thought Mubama should have come on earlier - the minute Dobbin got carded. Unfair to criticise him - he had virtually no time to do anything except try to hold the ball up the park which he did alright with. Bree goal just brilliant.

With a lesser goalkeeper that would have been a draw or even a loss.

Edited 5 hours ago by Vancouver Saint

[tdmickey3]

12 minutes ago, saintant said:

Any word from James Corden? Wot did you fink of that then Smiffy? Anyone got any pictures of his face looking like a smacked fat arse 🙂

He is a fat arse 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Good result, first half took our chances and defended well. 

Carried on in the second half. 

Hopefully Dobbin has some confidence now to get some more. All the subs did a job when they came on. 

Peretz MOTM for me.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Unbelievable result without 2 of our stand out players. 
 

Peretz showing why he’s a top Keeper, 2 strong centre halves ( Jack has been superb since his return), full backs particularly Bree excellent. Prowse had an excellent game, and we got away with playing Jander, but he did get stronger as the game wore on.
 

Matsuki was ok, his goal moved his performance up a bit as I thought his all round play wasn’t quite at the level. Finn good again and Dobbin had his best game by a mile.

Subs all contributed in various ways, even if it was only for a minute or 2 in the City lads case.

The only disappointment was Leo, missed a couple of pretty easy chances (luckily we banged in the rebounds) and gave the ball away way too easily when we were under the cosh. Continuation of his lacklustre start to the season. 

[Wade Garrett]

6 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Unbelievable result without 2 of our stand out players. 
 

Peretz showing why he’s a top Keeper, 2 strong centre halves ( Jack has been superb since his return), full backs particularly Bree excellent. Prowse had an excellent game, and we got away with playing Jander, but he did get stronger as the game wore on.
 

Matsuki was ok, his goal moved his performance up a bit as I thought his all round play wasn’t quite at the level. Finn good again and Dobbin had his best game by a mile.

Subs all contributed in various ways, even if it was only for a minute or 2 in the City lads case.

The only disappointment was Leo, missed a couple of pretty easy chances (luckily we banged in the rebounds) and gave the ball away way too easily when we were under the cosh. Continuation of his lacklustre start to the season. 

Good point about the players we had missing.  Makes the result even more impressive.

[Colinjb]

Peretz, our best goalkeeper since Antti Niemi.

Fantastic win.

[Teamsaint1]

31 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Brilliant result Dobbins best game by a country mile! 3 goals away from home. What’s not to like?

 

Think some posters on here need to have just a little bit more confidence in your team. 😉

Good luck with that. 1970 was my first game. Thats a bloody long time having zero confidence that we can hang on to anything less than a 4 goal lead.😀

[Wade Garrett]

How did Manning do up against Bowen?

[eurosaint]

35 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

That third kit is completely see through when wet. A warning to some of our more portly fans

Do the ladies team wear it as well 😎

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

How did Manning do up against Bowen?

Very well, the bigger issue was KWP getting forward too easily. 

[beatlesaint]

Tonda does superbly in these big matches it must be said.

He just needs to stop over thinking the more straightforward games 🤣

[hypochondriac]

Interestingly. Boro have the exact same amount of points at this stage than they did last year. Even with the minus 4 we have three more than Ipswich did at this stage. We have 8 more than we did last season at this stage even with the points deduction and double without it.

Edited 5 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

How did Manning do up against Bowen?

Ok ish, didn’t get much help from Leo though. They looked dangerous second half of the first half down that flank. But better when Wellington came on. Another day, we’d concede 3 or 4 more, like last week wasn’t our day, today really wasn’t theirs. 
 

If we finish within 1 place of them, we’ll go up automatically imo. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Interestingly. Boro have the exact same amount of points at this stage than they did last year. Even with the minus 4 we have three more than Ipswich did at this stage. We have 8 more than we did last season at this stage even with the points deduction and double without it.

They've been pretty fortunate with their fixtures too. 

[Tamesaint]

34 minutes ago, St Chalet said:

Just go with Daniel and you both win. 

Why not nsme him / her Tonda?

[Midfield_General]

Got the rub of the green today that we didn't get against Bolton. Took our chances well when we got them.

Stunner from Bree and really pleased to see Dobbin get one. He looks to be increasing in confidence and he was very decent today. Schlotterbeck and Stephens also both fought hard, and Matsuki put in a real shift before he ran himself into the ground. 

Annoying that Wellington shit out of the tackle for their second goal. That ball was his to win, him bottling out of it made the last few minutes much nervier than they should have been. 

But Peretz showed the difference it makes having a proper keeper. With someone else in goal we could have conceded four or five. A brilliant, brave performance from him that won the game. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Midfield_General

[swedish dave]

12 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Peretz, our best goalkeeper since Antti Niemi.

Fantastic win.

Amen to that Colin.

[austsaint]

6 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Very well, the bigger issue was KWP getting forward too easily. 

KWP was outstanding today, as was Bree for that matter - a great day for both RBs.    Appreciated KWP' muted goal celebration, he will always be a favourite former Saint.

[Saint Marky]

49 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

If I had a fanny, it'd be wetter than the weather.

You not gone the for the full conversion yet then?

[SuperSAINT]

Enjoyed that.

Baldie 2-3 JWP

[Patches O Houlihan]

19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interestingly. Boro have the exact same amount of points at this stage than they did last year. Even with the minus 4 we have three more than Ipswich did at this stage. We have 8 more than we did last season at this stage even with the points deduction and double without it.

I like this, but I think it is fair to say that our unbeaten run last season was partly due to a deep squad of quality players with few injuries. Our squad isn't so deep this time around; but then we have more experience and presumably confidence...

I'm hopeful but it will be tough to achieve autos with the -4. 

Doing the double over West Ham, Middlesborough and Millwall would go a very long way to securing an autos spot

COYR

[Harry_SFC]

Peretz unreal, Bree loves a worldy and Matsuki is a big game player. 

[Harry_SFC]

27 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Very well, the bigger issue was KWP getting forward too easily. 

Scienza is a classic Brazilian winger isn't he. As fantastic as he can be attacking wise, he doesn't like to do much defensively. 

[Stud mark of doom]

⚽D 2 JWP 3 

[macca155]

What a fabulous performance, a real statement win. 3 2 was probably fair but Saints bossed that 2nd half. It's so refreshing to have a team that looks to control the game. 

Strangely West Hams subs weakened them. Our midfield suddenly seemed to get more control. 

Excellent game from Dobbin, he's giving us an alternative to Larin, which is what we need. 

Jander grew into the game and JWPs work rate was phenomenal.

I was 2000 feet up and half a mile from the pitch, so no real idea on MoTM. Either Stephens or Schlotterbeck probably, although Brees goal was a belter.

Can't comment on Peretz, it was blur up on God's, no idea.

That will have seriously dented West Ham's confidence. Hopefully do the same to QPR and West Brom.

Canary Wharf is a bit posh

Edited 4 hours ago by macca155

[Holmes_and_Watson]

27 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interestingly. Boro have the exact same amount of points at this stage than they did last year. Even with the minus 4 we have three more than Ipswich did at this stage. We have 8 more than we did last season at this stage even with the points deduction and double without it.

I dedicate my emoji to your post to Minsk, the perspective setter when I thought some teams were better than they actually were.

[AlexLaw76]

One thing is for sure, Leo needs a big performance soon, and his finishing definitely needs to improve. 

I would suggest his starting spot is at risk

[hypochondriac]

10 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

I like this, but I think it is fair to say that our unbeaten run last season was partly due to a deep squad of quality players with few injuries. Our squad isn't so deep this time around; but then we have more experience and presumably confidence...

I'm hopeful but it will be tough to achieve autos with the -4. 

Doing the double over West Ham, Middlesborough and Millwall would go a very long way to securing an autos spot

COYR

We only just missed out last time and having eight more points at this stage (maybe more at some point) means we can afford to not be quite as good from January. We also have the January window to strengthen the squad. I'd like another winger ideally and a striker obviously.

[sfc4prem]

Great that we held on there. A really good game but certainly a nerve jangler to watch as a Saint.

We could have scored more, but so could they. 

Peretz super, and I thought JWP worked his absolute socks off too.

Awful weather, great fucking win.

[Badger]

Excellent result where we weren’t really fancied for it. As someone else says just got to do it in the more mundane matches where teams just look to frustrate us. 
 

But no denying that Tonda does have a good knack of getting something extra from the players when needed. 

[St. Ciervo]

32 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

Why not nsme him / her Tonda?

Tonda Peretz has a ring to it.

[2Morrow]

What a statement result, we absolutely look like we rise to the bigger matches.

We all view that unbeaten run with hindsight, able to rotate players in and out a lot (from memory) but ultimately it is the results we look back on. 

If today's excellent shift and elements of his game against Bolton is Dobbin replacing the goal and play of Stewart then on a small sample I would expect us to maintain the top2 conversation, our points tally ignoring the minus 4 suggests we will.

We won today without : Larin, Downes, Fellows doing anything. Edozie off the bench had little chance when backs against the wall and a relatively weak end product from Scienza. 

Last season we rotated Charles (JWP) Stewart (Dobbin) Fellows (Fellows) and Archer (Mubama) in and out for fixtures. The players in brackets have so far in 12 games convinced that they can match those from last year, and we only need to match it as we had such an awful start (worse than the minus 4!).

we are bang on the 2PPG for autos without the deduction, let's see if 88 is enough this year....

Edited 4 hours ago by 2Morrow

[Holmes_and_Watson]

14 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

I like this, but I think it is fair to say that our unbeaten run last season was partly due to a deep squad of quality players with few injuries. Our squad isn't so deep this time around; but then we have more experience and presumably confidence...

I'm hopeful but it will be tough to achieve autos with the -4. 

Doing the double over West Ham, Middlesborough and Millwall would go a very long way to securing an autos spot

COYR

I know what you mean. But in terms of playing time, it's really just a "fit" Stewart who could fill in for Larin, that we're missing. 

Charles replaced by JWP; THB for Schlotterbeck; Archer by the more positionally versatile Dobbin. 

So, not too bad.

[Miltonaggro]

That result was huge today! UTFS!

[saintant]

Agree with others that Leo needs to raise his game a long way because he is normally our best player and we can't afford to have him putting in these weak performances.

[JSpeake]

Glad to see Dobbin have a great game - hopefully he now pushes on from here.

I was worried about using Larin and Downes and risking further injury, so good decision from The manager to rest them - but to win without them against Wham is something special !

[saint francis]

I like the way we played without Larin being available.  Good to see we can create plenty of chances without him if needed.  

Sky had some post match stat about the amount of corners we had and didn't get the first touch for any of them? The complete opposite for WH.  Perhaps we could be more creative from the corner flag?  Always enjoy a rehearsed, training ground corner.  

[Sheaf Saint]

Just had a message from my WH supporting mate. He couldn't watch the game but reckons the consensus on their forum is that we deserved it cos they were second to every 50/50. Interesting to hear that perspective because it's not how I saw the game. We gave the ball away cheaply plenty of times and rode our luck a bit I thought.

[Cabrone]

So we draw at home to Bolton and then go and win at West Ham, that's so Saints.

It's been a really good October so far, 10 points out of 12 having played Spam and Norwich (a).

Another big win against QPR next Sat and this will have been a vintage month.

 

[Challenger]

1 hour ago, tdmickey3 said:

He is a fat arse 

Odious fat arse, with a gob to match.

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Just had a message from my WH supporting mate. He couldn't watch the game but reckons the consensus on their forum is that we deserved it cos they were second to every 50/50. Interesting to hear that perspective because it's not how I saw the game. We gave the ball away cheaply plenty of times and rode our luck a bit I thought.

That's not accurate. We were super clinical, started fast and caught them when they started slow. We then survived an onslaught where they could have scored a hatful but it just didn't drop for them. 

[die Mannyschaft]

9 hours ago, suewhistle said:

We probably need a separate thread on freezing your bits off at football matches. I've been cold but nothing memorable in terms of remembering a specific game. Mind you, I've probably been unrecognisable with all the hats, scarves, ski gear padding, winter boots and possibly those little exothermic hand warmers. Clapping would have sounded a bit muffled too.. 

Not sure what I feel about today, though the ideal scenario would be a late winning free kick by JWP. I didn't think those things happened to Saints, but then Le Tissier popped up with that fantasy script in the last game at The Dell, so there's always a little hope.

Steau Bucharest away, got absolutely drenched and had my motorbike jacket on . Coach got stuck in mud after game. No facilities or refreshments at ground that was falling apart. 

[Challenger]

Shite weather, looked forward to watching Eastleigh and then Saints,complimented with a few real ales. Thanks to firestick I just got the beer.

 

[Patches O Houlihan]

32 minutes ago, St. Ciervo said:

Tonda Peretz has a ring to it.

Needs to be properly double barrelled to be a Saints baby

Tonda-Peretz, Channon "...insert surname here..."

[Dan Johnson]

1 hour ago, Colinjb said:

Peretz, our best goalkeeper since Antti Niemi.

Fantastic win.

£30m+ keeper every day of the week, absolutely sensational today.