sfc6mufc3 Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 If it's Adkins, Hart, Howe or Tisdale then clearly that is a step backwards imo. Zola, MON, Curbs, Hoddle is a step forward. Coleman, Ince, Dowie are on a level with Pards imo. The decision will tell us alot about Cortese's ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 If it's Adkins, Hart, Howe or Tisdale then clearly that is a step backwards imo. Zola, MON, Curbs, Hoddle is a step forward. Coleman, Ince, Dowie are on a level with Pards imo. The decision will tell us alot about Cortese's ambition. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Hoddle a step forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 If it's Adkins, Hart, Howe or Tisdale then clearly that is a step backwards imo. Zola, MON, Curbs, Hoddle is a step forward. Coleman, Ince, Dowie are on a level with Pards imo. The decision will tell us alot about Cortese's ambition. Both Adkins and Tisdale would be better appointments than either Ince or Dowie, no doubts about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 If it's Adkins, Hart, Howe or Tisdale then clearly that is a step backwards imo. Zola, MON, Curbs, Hoddle is a step forward. Coleman, Ince, Dowie are on a level with Pards imo. The decision will tell us alot about Cortese's ambition. If Dowie was Pards level im glad he was sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 If it's Adkins, Hart, Howe or Tisdale then clearly that is a step backwards imo. Zola, MON, Curbs, Hoddle is a step forward. Coleman, Ince, Dowie are on a level with Pards imo. The decision will tell us alot about Cortese's ambition. You just made me spit my hot tea over my lap you silly c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 I dunno about you guys but as far as saints is concerned you need the patience of one to support them. In these last couple of years (maybe more) all we have seemed to do is nervously wait for information regarding saints after another sh*te load of turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 I would be happy with Adkins. Done wonders with S****horpe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Adkins has done a tremendous job IMO and I was impressed with his side when we played them. That would be a very good appointment if you ask me, very similar sort of move as Leeds did with Grayson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 I agree with a move for Adkins. He seems like a well respected man and has done a superb job with Scunny. With extremely limited funds they've had 2 promotions and a relegation. I'd love to see what he could do with us with a bit of financial backing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 None of us know how well any manager will do, proven or otherwise. Circumstance and blind luck / good fortune often dictates the success of managers, right place / right time or wrong place / wrong time it's in the lap of the gods. Strachan for example, Crap at Coventry fantastic for us. Whoever it is will have the resources at their disposal to make a proper fist of it. My preference as far as a manager goes would be Mowbray, as his teams seem to play good attractive football, whether that would breed success is anyones guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigsdad Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Mowbray may well be a very good candidate. However, talking with my Baggies supporting brother-in-law his comment was that "If Saints appointed Mowbray we'd play nice attractive football, but let in lots of goals...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Mowbray may well be a very good candidate. However, talking with my Baggies supporting brother-in-law his comment was that "If Saints appointed Mowbray we'd play nice attractive football, but let in lots of goals...." Having the four best attacking players in this division won't be a problem as I can't see our defence letting in too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Buona sera! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Mowbray may well be a very good candidate. However, talking with my Baggies supporting brother-in-law his comment was that "If Saints appointed Mowbray we'd play nice attractive football, but let in lots of goals...." That's the other thing people don't take into account when looking at managers though... These are intelligent people, it's quite possible that Mowbray could have learned from his past mistakes. I know when I go into a new job I make bloody sure I don't just repeat any mistakes I made in the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Buona sera! What are you gently alluding to here Deppo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Buona sera! Claudio Foscarini (born 1958) Italian football coach, currently head coach of Serie B outfit Cittadella since 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Buona sera! Would fit in the puzzle i have been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 In terms of how long Saints will take to make an appointment,I heard an interesting discussion about the Villa job on the radio the other day. It was suggested that Lerner is not just sifting/interviewing potential candidates but using techniques from the business world to identify managers suitable to be considered.One technique was drawing up psychological profiles of candidates etc. Given NC's previous business life,what is the likelihood that a similar excercise might be going on at Saints ? (Probably get a more insightful view of the candidates from reading this board though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 /\ speaks not a word of English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Nigel Adkins has done a magnificent job at S****horpe,on 5,000 gates,and a very limited budget.They play pretty decent football too, although they concede a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Adkins would be a good shout. I even think Howe would be a decent shout but think we MAY need to install a bigger name to ensure we keep the big names. It'll be a tough one, and IMO as much as it may hurt not to hear for a week or two then it may benefit in the long run if we install the right man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 In terms of how long Saints will take to make an appointment,I heard an interesting discussion about the Villa job on the radio the other day. It was suggested that Lerner is not just sifting/interviewing potential candidates but using techniques from the business world to identify managers suitable to be considered.One technique was drawing up psychological profiles of candidates etc. Given NC's previous business life,what is the likelihood that a similar excercise might be going on at Saints ? I damn well hope he is, Badger, because fitting in with a wide variety of people (ranging from Cortese himself to the players and on into the Staplewood staff) is absolutely critical to success. It was (allegedly) Pardew's inability to maintain those relationships that supposedly sat at the heart of the rationale for his dismissal. The Academy is a vital component of Cortese's "five year plan", and the first team manager will need to fully respect that. And "respect" means not only understanding and supporting what they're doing, but also embracing the best youngsters into the first team squad when the time is right. Not necessarily playing them ( until they're ready ) but helping them to be ready for their next step. This wasn't Harry's bag at all, and I'm not sure it was Pardew's. However, it will need to be part of the game plan from Day One for the new guy if he's to succeed here. That will rule out a number of potential candidates (more the "old guard") and tip the scales in favour of the "new breed" and the Europeans. I sure as hell hope that they're defining a profile or else we'll be back in the same situation again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 2 September, 2010 Share Posted 2 September, 2010 Tony Mowbray is definitely my choice. I watched West Brom several times under him and the team was so fast flowing and exciting. On the note about shipping goals, West Brom never really had a decent defence under Mowbray. He also likes to have a fairly young squad so this may well work well with the whole academy situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Poppa Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 At this moment it is not Howe. What is the fuss about Mowbray? God he sends you to sleep, and his PL experience is relegation. Shearer has the respect of many in the game and a big name to get people to look up. As long as he doesnt bring Dowie,Lol Oneill is surely too much of a loose cannon, and wouldn't tow the line. Zola is a gentleman and good to his word. The world of football likes him and would be the good side of SFC showing through again. NC would know that if he gave his word he would keep to it. A rare thing in football , a man of integrity. The christian Gross thing is also interesting. I've also heard a rumour that one of the reasons that Christian Gross is set to became Saints manager is because he is related to the Liebherr family through marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 I've also heard a rumour that one of the reasons that Christian Gross is set to became Saints manager is because he is related to the Liebherr family through marriage. Yea and so is Rapunzel. She would be almost be as crap a manager as Gross for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Yea and so is Rapunzel. She would be almost be as crap a manager as Gross for us. I believe his record for Tottenham was quite good. The fans didn't fall in love with him. His answer to everything was "ve must verk harder" (in a Swiss accent, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Poppa Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Yea and so is Rapunzel. She would be almost be as crap a manager as Gross for us. I wouldn't say Gross is a crap manager, he's got a very good managerial record since leaving Spurs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 I just cannot believe Cortese never had someone lined up. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 It beggars belief that we would sack someone of Pardew's caliber in LEAGUE ONE... and not have someone decent lined up. What a total joke. Every season something **** has to happen doesn't it... /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 It beggars belief that we would sack someone of Pardew's caliber in LEAGUE ONE... and not have someone decent lined up. What a total joke. Every season something **** has to happen doesn't it... /facepalm If he didn't have someone lined up, it is likely this sacking has been caused by an event. As we do not know the seriousness of this event, we can not really criticise the decision in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 You do realise whichever poor bastard gets the job if we fail to gain promotion we will all be doing this again next may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 I just cannot believe Cortese never had someone lined up. Unreal. It's not unreal if he hadn't planned to sack Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 You do realise whichever poor bastard gets the job if we fail to gain promotion we will all be doing this again next may. I fear that might just be the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 You do realise whichever poor bastard gets the job if we fail to gain promotion we will all be doing this again next may. Welcome to the real world. Football is a results-oriented and expensive business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Welcome to the real world. Football is a results-oriented and expensive business. Profound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Claudio Foscarini (born 1958) Italian football coach, currently head coach of Serie B outfit Cittadella since 2005? And they are STILL in Serie B, 5 seasons without Promotion ?? So he's pretty good then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 If he didn't have someone lined up, it is likely this sacking has been caused by an event. As we do not know the seriousness of this event, we can not really criticise the decision in this way. couldnt he just have given him a final written warning or something ffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Claudio Foscarini (born 1958) Italian football coach, currently head coach of Serie B outfit Cittadella since 2005? Poortvliet Mk II ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 That's the other thing people don't take into account when looking at managers though... These are intelligent people, it's quite possible that Mowbray could have learned from his past mistakes. I know when I go into a new job I make bloody sure I don't just repeat any mistakes I made in the last one. Thank you and Goodnight Gordon Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 couldnt he just have given him a final written warning or something ffs? How do you know he wasn't already on a final warning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 I wouldn't say Gross is a crap manager, he's got a very good managerial record since leaving Spurs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gross I think he is what his name infers ie GROSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 I think it is a cast iron certainty that Cortese will appoint a Foreign Manager IMHO God help us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 How do you know he wasn't already on a final warning? i do know he wasnt, fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 I think it is a cast iron certainty that Cortese will appoint a Foreign Manager Yeah, I feel this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Poortvliet Mk II ? Exactly what went through my mind too! Still, this is just a rumour....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 It beggars belief that we would sack someone of Pardew's caliber in LEAGUE ONE... and not have someone decent lined up. What a total joke. Every season something **** has to happen doesn't it... /facepalm He wasn't expecting to sack pardew,there was an incident and he had to let him go.....that's why there isn't an instant fix. No point rushing into appointing his successor,make the wrong choice and this will all be happening again,make the right choice and we will be promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 i do know he wasnt, fact How do I know that you know...? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 Mmm, have just read Gross' bio and it does show him to be more competent than I thought him to be. He must be in with a shout assuming he's applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 September, 2010 Share Posted 3 September, 2010 He wasn't expecting to sack pardew,there was an incident and he had to let him go.....that's why there isn't an instant fix. No point rushing into appointing his successor,make the wrong choice and this will all be happening again,make the right choice and we will be promoted. How on earth can you say that? The whole world knows and accepts NC was poised to wield the axe at the season's end and pulled back at the last moment. From that moment on AP was a dead man walking. Everyone is falling for the spin that there was an incident which is interesting as some of the current players friends of mine have spoken to, know of no incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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