Lighthouse Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 No-one wants us to sign players that aren't good enough. For "squad player", read 'player with a reputation that isn't so large that he expects to be starting every game regardless of form'. Squad players add strength to the squad, players that aren't good enough are deadwood, which we had a lot of under Lowe/Sturrock/Wigley/Redknapp. We wont be signing anybody like that. To me a squad player implies just another body in the squad who wisn't actually good enough for the first 11 but would provide cover. We need to improve the squad, not expand it. IMO we need to be signing players who are better or different to what we have now. Players like Whitbread and Yakuba just aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Jenas, Doyle, upson, Owen, bassong, Danny rose, Woodgate??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Jenas, Doyle, upson, Owen, bassong, Danny rose, Woodgate??! Is that a list of players to avoid??? As it's a good one if it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Livermore would be a great signing. Would have to be a loan move, I'd imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Man City will clearly buy a sh!t load more players this summer , but not be able to move any on due to their stupidly high salaries. Could be 3 or 4 of them we could take a look at and all funded by Man City Adam Johnson for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Lighthouse hits the nail squarely on the head - Lowe built a huge squad of mainly average players the majority of who just weren't up to it and that was his and our downfall. As a result he still ended up with a fairly high wage bill but very little quality and couldn't seem to grasp that to compete in the Premier you must have a certain number of better players who quite rightly command higher salaries. This meant that the manager had to somehow cobble together a team capable of winning enough games just to achieve survival - no surprise that Lowe's lack of understanding got found out. You must have some higher quality players in your squad. Let's not make the same mistakes again or our stay in the Prem will undoubtedly be a very short one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Man City will clearly buy a sh!t load more players this summer , but not be able to move any on due to their stupidly high salaries. Could be 3 or 4 of them we could take a look at and all funded by Man City Adam Johnson for one. Roque Santa Cruz Aleksandar Kolarov Vladimir Weiss David Pizarro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 I certainly think that personality will come into it quite a lot. If they are like the stereotype premier league footballer than I'm not sure we'll be that interested as team ethics will play a huge part next season. We need hungry players who are down to earth who fit in with the bunch we have now. They are clearly all very good friends as well as teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 How about Fabian Delph, Chris Herd and/or James Collins's from AV? Might be availible...... All seem up for a larf so fits with Adkins signing policy > http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17952036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Is that a list of players to avoid??? As it's a good one if it is!Just a list of players that I thought could be options for signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Crikey ! only a week after the end of season ..and nearly 500 posts already. How big will this thread get before August ? Can the IT system take it MODS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Crikey ! only a week after the end of season ..and nearly 500 posts already. How big will this thread get before August ? Can the IT system take it MODS ? facebook innit, that can take anything,including 22-28 dollars a share of yer hard-earned. I'm gonna have a punt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 I would take all of them - Yakubu has scored nearly 20 goals this season and Cox can still be effective in the Premier League imo yes impressive ..especially ín a team about to be relegated, but can you see him getting " Saints fit "?. He 'll be 30 in November, and unless he's for free, I don't think he'd be such a good investment. NA is up for signing experienced 22-26 year olds with a view to long term development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Lot's of good suggestions in this thread! Owen, Yakubu, Lampard etc. Does anyone know the approriate email to send them to Nigel? He might not be aware of some of these up-and-coming players and would probably be glad of suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Man City will clearly buy a sh!t load more players this summer , but not be able to move any on due to their stupidly high salaries. Could be 3 or 4 of them we could take a look at and all funded by Man City Adam Johnson for one. I very much doubt that City would fund the wages of somebody like Adam Johnson. They part-funded Adebayor's wages for Tottenham as he is on something utterly obscene like over £150k a week. Johnson is probably only on something mildly obscene like £50k a week. City would expect a Prem club to meet that cost, I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Aleksandar Kolarov Behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Liam Trotter would be a quality signing imo, bang Millwall £2m for him and we've got a big lad in midfield who's good on the ball, a good passer, an aerial threat and can put in a good tackle. Can play CB if need be as well. Would be a very useful player to have in the squad should we need to play with a more defensive strategy - sitting just in front of Morgan at CM to break up attacks and spark off a counter-attack. Very , very good player ! I would be made up if we could get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Burke from Brum for RM more assists than anyone else in the division this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Still think we need a PL quality keeper. Davis was dire in his last PL outing for Sunderland years ago and I was absolutely flabbergasted that he got in the FLC team of the season ahead of decent keepers like Myhill, Schmeichel and Fererici. Think we could do with a better keeper, love Kelvin and he's done well this season but I really do think we need a top quality keeper for the PL, I don't think people realise how difficult Davis will find it in the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Burke from Brum for RM more assists than anyone else in the division this season.is he all that? He didn't cause us any problems at all. My Brummie mate thinks we are likely to go for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 is he all that? He didn't cause us any problems at all. My Brummie mate thinks we are likely to go for him He played okay in the game up there. He's been Brums best player so far tonight and looked good the times I've seen him on the telly. Of the players on the pitch now though I'd take Phillips and Ince over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Dobbie looks worth a punt if Swansea are willing to sell. Bags of skill, very tricky and not afraid to take defenders on. Gave us plenty of problems too. Could see him linking up well with Lambert and wouldn't cost a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Dobbie looks worth a punt if Swansea are willing to sell. Bags of skill, very tricky and not afraid to take defenders on. Gave us plenty of problems too. Could see him linking up well with Lambert and wouldn't cost a fortune. Although a decent Championship player if Dobbie is the limit of our ambition next season then I fear for us - to compete we need 4/5 proven quality players that are significantly better than we already have which will raise the standard of our squad. I hope that we are thinking more Waitrose than Lidl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Dani Benitez, pacey flair winger with an end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Thomas Ince looked absolute class in that game. Curtis Davies was average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Still think we need a PL quality keeper. Davis was dire in his last PL outing for Sunderland years ago and I was absolutely flabbergasted that he got in the FLC team of the season ahead of decent keepers like Myhill, Schmeichel and Fererici. Think we could do with a better keeper, love Kelvin and he's done well this season but I really do think we need a top quality keeper for the PL, I don't think people realise how difficult Davis will find it in the big leagues. Davis had that Sunderland defence infront of him.. Peter Shilton couldnt have kept a clean sheet with that defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Davis had that Sunderland defence infront of him.. Peter Shilton couldnt have kept a clean sheet with that defence. I agree with Blakey that we need a keeper, someone to push Davis rather than stick him on the bench all season. Kasper is just that sort of player who will improve once Davis takes him under his wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Kieran Trippier from Burnley. Hopefully in a double deal with Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Adkins will not sign Bertie Big Bollix players who flit from club to club with big egos and big wage packets. Expect canny low-key signings which then prove astute (e.g. Jos) probably mainly from Championship with PL calibre after being infected with Adkins enthusiasm (e.g. Rodrigues, McCormack, etc) with the odd foreign player who has been shaken down to see they fit in with what will be one of the tightest, closest and best team spirits in the PL next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Kieran Trippier from Burnley. Hopefully in a double deal with Rodriguez. Rumoured to be about £6m plus a player swap so I understand. Already had 1 bid turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Rumoured to be about £6m plus a player swap so I understand. Already had 1 bid turned down. Is this for those two or just Jay Rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Is this for those two or just Jay Rod? Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Rumoured to be about £6m plus a player swap so I understand. Already had 1 bid turned down. Is this for those two or just Jay Rod? Both. Would be excellent signings but could see the end of one of our right backs, I'd imagine. Is it Chappers returning to Burnley, do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Still think we need a PL quality keeper. Davis was dire in his last PL outing for Sunderland years ago and I was absolutely flabbergasted that he got in the FLC team of the season ahead of decent keepers like Myhill, Schmeichel and Fererici. Think we could do with a better keeper, love Kelvin and he's done well this season but I really do think we need a top quality keeper for the PL, I don't think people realise how difficult Davis will find it in the big leagues. I think NA will have a few tough decisions to make and perhaps KD will be one of them as he never comes for a high ball in the box and in the PL that will be a problem. But essentially I think NA will stick with what he has. We have become a team unit and got promoted with a great spirit with some rotation of players. NA will keep this spirit but make it stronger. Players can evolve and get better, look at Hammond. PErsonally I hope we never sign a single PL journey man on big bucks, I'd rather get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Would be excellent signings but could see the end of one of our right backs' date=' I'd imagine. Is it Chappers returning to Burnley, do you know?[/quote'] Don't know sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Also bid on table for Jarvis and we're looking at Matt Phillips. Adkins and Crosby are going to St Andrews on Wednesday to watch 2nd leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Don't know sorry. Also bid on table for Jarvis and we're looking at Matt Phillips. Adkins and Crosby are going to St Andrews on Wednesday to watch 2nd leg. Fair play. Cheers for the info though fella, thanks for sharing. Looks like we're trying to get our business done early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 It was previously suggested on here though that it might be Puncheon who is offered to Burnley. Can't see it personally, as I can't see him wanting to move there. Blackpool I thought might be a more likely destination, to resume his spell with 'ollie ( or perhaps just too hopeful of Phillips signing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Dobbie looks worth a punt if Swansea are willing to sell. Bags of skill, very tricky and not afraid to take defenders on. Gave us plenty of problems too. Could see him linking up well with Lambert and wouldn't cost a fortune. If we could get Dobbie. Ince and Phillips on a 3-for-a-tenner (£10M) deal (like the wine at Sainsburys) then we would be sorted. Have to wait and see who gets up to the Prem with us ... but if Blackpool don't, I'd be more than happy to move for any or all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Kieran Trippier from Burnley. Hopefully in a double deal with Rodriguez. Just looked on a Burnley forum, and they accredit this rumour as : According ti ITK agent on twitter, Southampton had put an offer in for jay rod and trippier. Cash plus a player Perhaps not a reliable source ? (http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114828144) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Roque Santa Cruz Aleksandar Kolarov Vladimir Weiss David Pizarro Would sort out our RM in a flash. Quality, quality player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 (edited) Just looked on a Burnley forum, and they accredit this rumour as : Perhaps not a reliable source ? (http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114828144) It was more out of hope than expectation but if it happens I'll be delighted! Edited 5 May, 2012 by beavis17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 I would love to think we can get things done early but every year it seems to drag on! Cant see us getting English players as clubs ramp up prices as we know and NC doesnt budge!! Interesting summer! J Rod will go for 8m if Burnley get their way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 The offer for J Rod has been on the table since the Fox deal. We've been given 1st refusal by the player and club due to the respectful and professional manner in which we conducted ourselves. They want one of our CMs as part of the deal. This comes from a Burnley player and a Burnley board member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 The offer for J Rod has been on the table since the Fox deal. We've been given 1st refusal by the player and club due to the respectful and professional manner in which we conducted ourselves. They want one of our CMs as part of the deal. This comes from a Burnley player and a Burnley board member. Hammond has been a good servant, but if he has to go, he has to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 Hammond has been a good servant, but if he has to go, he has to go! Dean isn't going anywhere. I believe it is Chaplow who they want as part of that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 Chappers is a Burnley fan isn't he? Their forums seem to think he would be unlikely to return though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 If we could get Dobbie. Ince and Phillips on a 3-for-a-tenner (£10M) deal (like the wine at Sainsburys) then we would be sorted. Have to wait and see who gets up to the Prem with us ... but if Blackpool don't, I'd be more than happy to move for any or all of them. I'm pretty sure Dobbie is only on loan at Blackpool from Swansea. Ince and Phillips would be great though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 In Yakubu Jay Rodriguez Kasper Schmichel Matt Phillips Out Barnard, Jaidi, Forte, Connolly, Dickson, Holmes, Seaborne, Forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 5 May, 2012 Share Posted 5 May, 2012 Also bid on table for Jarvis and we're looking at Matt Phillips. Adkins and Crosby are going to St Andrews on Wednesday to watch 2nd leg. I'd have a look at Ince while they are there, he is very good and has a bright future. Forget Jarvis, get Ince and Phillips if they don't go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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