Saint-Armstrong Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 FT: Salzburg 2-0 Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 RoKo looks livid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2015 So far in pre season none of the U21s showing they are anywhere near the standard needed to get regular first team games. Which is no disgrace, but shows how spoiled we have been the last few seasons with JWP, Chambers and Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Would you believe we've got stoppage time? I love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 90 minutes of my life wasted. Preseason friendlies are always a bit rubbish. First game better than the second though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 I gave up on pre-season friendlies a few years ago and watched that against my better judgement. Wish I hadn't bothered. We learn little from these games except don't bother with friendlies, they just wind you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 At least England won the test match. Too many players still in holiday mode; at least Ron now has a clear idea as to where work, and possibly recruitment, is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Shows that we need to sign 2 DM's when Morgan goes, as we always play 2 there and currently only have Vic and Reed available. Davis and JWP can't tackle and don't have the positional sense and Gape doesn't look the part either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 So far in pre season none of the U21s showing they are anywhere near the standard needed to get regular first team games. Which is no disgrace, but shows how spoiled we have been the last few seasons with JWP, Chambers and Shaw. Reed's statement that this season would feature more youngsters -rather than new signings- to cope with the demands of european football looking pretty brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 So far in pre season none of the U21s showing they are anywhere near the standard needed to get regular first team games. Which is no disgrace, but shows how spoiled we have been the last few seasons with JWP, Chambers and Shaw. On the other hand, need to remember that our two best U21s have not come back for pre-season yet. I think we are beginning to see though that the conveyor belt of talent that is much talked about is not as good now as it was a few years ago, where are the 16/17 year olds that break through now, we are still looking for 20 year olds to push on and apparently its not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 The first team looked balanced but the second team was just a collection of individuals with no shape or teamwork. Soares doesn't seem to grasp that standing off opens the door. No Schneiderlin again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2015 (edited) On the other hand, need to remember that our two best U21s have not come back for pre-season yet. I think we are beginning to see though that the conveyor belt of talent that is much talked about is not as good now as it was a few years ago, where are the 16/17 year olds that break through now, we are still looking for 20 year olds to push on and apparently its not happening. I wouldn't count them as U21s. Nor Reed because they are first team squad players. The likes of McCarthy, Gape, Gallagher will have good careers, but won't be starters at a top 12 PL club in 5 years time, I am fairly certain of that. Perhaps though with one in the first XI lineup its not too much of an issue as they can be helped by the other players, but the PL isn't a forgiving place and you get exposed very quickly if you aren't at that level. Edited 11 July, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 I don't think I've ever heard a more inane or innaccurate commentator! The second game was somewhat c**p, and a lot of the old reliables were obviously not match fit, which is hardly surprising dear drama queens, in that that was their first pre-season game and the other leagues playing start earlier than us. Our midfield looked very lightweight, which is not to say that some of them would not be OK slotted in to a stronger team structure, but let's face it, we played two teams of approximately similar strengths. Our finishing still needs work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Not much learned, apart from we desperately need a new CB and midfielder. Gardos has to be up there with Darren Powell and Ollie Lancashire as one of the worst centre backs we've had in the past 10 years. Black box mustn't have been working the day we signed him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Not sure who was worse, us or that commentator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Not looking too good at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 This is DISsGRACE! 3 Lossos in a row, no sign of change at the top. Lorry Macmenemy in as DOF to stop the rot! and harry to bring our wheeling dealing level above 85/100. If season tickits aint given away next we, then we riot! sHOW THE BIGWIGS THAT ITS THE FANS THAT REALLY MATTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 This is DISsGRACE! 3 Lossos in a row, no sign of change at the top. Lorry Macmenemy in as DOF to stop the rot! and harry to bring our wheeling dealing level above 85/100. If season tickits aint given away next we, then we riot! sHOW THE BIGWIGS THAT ITS THE FANS THAT REALLY MATTER! So, are we close to any signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 No wonder Ronald looked angry at the end of that - they looked totally disorganised. Made him look bad. My guess would be lack of leadership on the pitch. Fonte will be crucial to our defence again, and I reckon we need someone with great awareness alongside him at cb. Morgan needs a top quality replacement too. We have little choice but to field kids in Europa unless we want to gamble on increaed risk to key players for the Prem. Our squad just isn't big enough to do anything else. On the strength of this afternoon, it's going to be a very steep learning curve for them, and it'll be a massive achievement if we get past the group stage. On the plus side, Juanme and Cedric look like good signings, and Stekelenburg will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 So, are we close to any signings? You don't need me to tell you that, yes, yes we are! Big Les Reed confirmed it just yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 You don't need me to tell you that, yes, yes we are! Big Les Reed confirmed it just yesterday. Any clue about positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Thought Harrison Reed looked good. Not afraid to shoot from range which we've lacked a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 I'm worried about Left back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 I'm worried about Left back! Not rating Targett then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Pictures just cut off, making viewers wholly reliant on the commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 I wouldn't count them as U21s. Nor Reed because they are first team squad players. LOL, lets not count some of u21s as u21s because it does not fit your agenda or back up your post. Really couldn't make it up with some of the drongos on this forum these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Thunderstorm kicking off now in Salzburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2015 (edited) LOL, lets not count some of u21s as u21s because it does not fit your agenda or back up your post. Really couldn't make it up with some of the drongos on this forum these days. But I'm not talking about the players who have already proven themselves to an extent at first team level like JWP, Reed and to a lesser extent Targett. They are first team players whatever their age is. The reason they are and the others aren't is because they are better than Gape, Gallagher etc. None of those who havent already broken into the first team reckoning on a regular basis, like Gape, McQueen, Isgrove etc are going to be PL quality players. That is all, its not an agenda its just my opinion from watching them. Edited 11 July, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 You don't need me to tell you that, yes, yes we are! Big Les Reed confirmed it just yesterday. 2xyes Has to be a CB, CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Werder Bremen win the final on penalties. 1. Werder Bremen 2. Valencia 3. Red Bull Salzburg 4. Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Werder Bremen win the final on penalties. 1. Werder Bremen 2. Valencia 3. Red Bull Salzburg 4. Southampton #itshappening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Werder Bremen win the final on penalties. 1. Werder Bremen 2. Valencia 3. Red Bull Salzburg 4. Southampton Wait. That means we qualify for champions league, no? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 We looked poor in both games imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Going to get Sané printed on the back of my shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 This is DISsGRACE! 3 Lossos in a row, no sign of change at the top. Lorry Macmenemy in as DOF to stop the rot! and harry to bring our wheeling dealing level above 85/100. If season tickits aint given away next we, then we riot! sHOW THE BIGWIGS THAT ITS THE FANS THAT REALLY MATTER! I hope this will be put in the ITK Snippets thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Going to get Sané printed on the back of my shirt. This guy? Sounds perfect for us.. http://www.squawka.com/news/bordeauxs-lamine-sane-reveals-he-hopes-to-play-for-liverpool/317874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLiam Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Going to get Sané printed on the back of my shirt. In his defence, there is a Senegalese midfielder called Sané However, that doesn't excuse him from calling him that seconds after saying Mané No, he didn't score a hattrick against Atletico Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andoru Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 I'm worried about Left back! Yeah, I was saying the same to the guy in front of me. With Bertrand out we are pretty vulnerable in that position going into Europa. Coco Martini, or whatever his name is, looks like he has no pace and he moves like Carlton Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 So the positives today were Gazzaniga, McCarthy and Stephens, Reed was his combative self without any product. Wanyama was immense. Valencia had one chance and won the game. We were the better team. Early days and Martinez has a lot to learn. Many missed chances and a little disappointed with the second match. We had a bunch of individuals. I knew Morgan wouldn't play and I think this did have an effect on the second team. Gape needs more time. I think Saints are signing or bringing through far too many vertically challenged players. Not impressed with any of the new players today. Very early days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 In his defence, there is a Senegalese midfielder called Sané However, that doesn't excuse him from calling him that seconds after saying Mané No, he didn't score a hattrick against Atletico Villa. Fair enough, I'll just get a kellkeeper shirt with Kevin Gazzinger's name on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Gasarniga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 StekelenBORG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 You can't judge much from pre season and certainly if you don't know what stage of their preseason each player is or the opposition . The time to worry is when they're fully match fit and turn in performances like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 #itshappening hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 July, 2015 Share Posted 12 July, 2015 You can't judge much from pre season and certainly if you don't know what stage of their preseason each player is or the opposition . The time to worry is when they're fully match fit and turn in performances like that . Exactly. There's a lot of fussing with very little justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaintRichmond Posted 12 July, 2015 Share Posted 12 July, 2015 The first team looked balanced but the second team was just a collection of individuals with no shape or teamwork. Soares doesn't seem to grasp that standing off opens the door. No Schneiderlin again. What a surprise (not) Why bother to take him on pre season ? It was perfectly obvious that HE would not risk himself playing whilst he was/is negotiating his transfer Anybody care to deny he's going ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 July, 2015 Share Posted 12 July, 2015 What a surprise (not) Why bother to take him on pre season ? It was perfectly obvious that HE would not risk himself playing whilst he was/is negotiating his transfer Anybody care to deny he's going ?? No-one is denying it on this forum and the management of the club are talking very openly about it too. Don't let it stop your pointless swivel eyed trolling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 12 July, 2015 Share Posted 12 July, 2015 What a surprise (not) Why bother to take him on pre season ? It was perfectly obvious that HE would not risk himself playing whilst he was/is negotiating his transfer Anybody care to deny he's going ?? Why do you bother posting on here? You are a proven troll so feck off. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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