Saint_Ash Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 According to the bookies we're faves to get Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 We should avoid South American players like the plague. Unless you're buying the top drawer players theres too much risk involved. Surprised we haven't learnt that - it has been a costly mistake in the recent past. don't understand this comment. he's not exactly a lightweight south american flair player - he's a strong 6ft 2 winger. apparently one of highest passing rates and also puts in a defensive shift for a winger. I think he would have been probably pretty good fit for saints, just not the kind of player we need at the mo as he doesn't bring goals http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/03/30/scout-report-lucas-ocampos/ http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2012/12/21/nh-x-five-potential-breakthrough-stars-of-2013-1-lucas-ocampos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) Think we may have a bit of a polarised opinion here boys. Are you suggesting that Osvaldo, Ramirez, Tejera, Sarmiento, Delgado, Chala, Arias, and St Juste were unsuccessful? As a South american I feel this a little bit offensive. What South American players in general bring is a burning desire to win. They have passion- I look at many Southampton players and it looks like they don't really care if they win or lose. They treat it as a regular day time job. They sing just to go to bigger club, like if the club we love was a stepping stone. Heck, even African players like Mane and Wanyama don't seem to care enough. It's just a case of bad scouting to sing an unprofessional player like Osvaldo. I really don't know about Gaston, but if he feels he has been treated unfairly I would understand. Sorry if you find it a little offensive, but as you'll see from the list of names above , signing South Americans has hardly been a roaring success for us. I don't see much of a "burning desire to win" as much as players with a high tendency to sulk , and often show an indifferent attitude when on the pitch. I don't disagree with you that others often conduct themselves in similar fashion, and even our 'home grown' talent is happy to bugger off when chance arises. Yes, our scouting and recruitment has something to answer for also, esp with Osvaldo, but given the track record from South America my view is we'd be better off scouting elsewhere. A for Gaston, I like what he could bring, but he's had numerous chances and has never really grasped it. No wonder RK has no trust in him. Edited 15 January, 2016 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) Think we may have a bit of a polarised opinion here boys. Sorry if you find it a little offensive, but as you'll see from the list of names above , signing South Americans has hardly been a roaring success for us. I don't see much of a "burning desire to win" as much as players with a high tendency to sulk , and often show an indifferent attitude when on the pitch. I don't disagree with you that others often conduct themselves in similar fashion, and even our 'home grown' talent is happy to bugger off when chance arises. Yes, our scouting and recruitment has something to answer for also, esp with Osvaldo, but given the track record from South America my view is we'd be better off scouting elsewhere. A for Gaston, I like what he could bring, but he's had numerous chances and has never really grasped it. No wonder RK has no trust in him. Yeah that's what I think when I see Sanchez chasing down every ball and trying to play every game for Arsenal, or messi being the best player in the world who hardly ever gets injured. I don't think avoid south america is the problem, its the player fitting into whatever system is being played not where they come from and that issue is club related. Edited 15 January, 2016 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Sunderland apparently making an approach for Andre Ayew. Would love to see us test them with a bid on Gylfi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Yeah that's what I think when I see Sanchez chasing down every ball and trying to play every game for Arsenal, or messi being the best player in the world who hardly ever gets injured. If you go back to my original comment: Unless you're buying the top drawer players theres too much risk involved. Surprised we haven't learnt that - it has been a costly mistake in the recent past. Unfortunately we don't have the £££ to compete in attracting Sanchez or Messi. There have been some outstanding players fromSouth America, but our experience of them is far from encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Sunderland apparently making an approach for Andre Ayew. Would love to see us test them with a bid on Gylfi. Clever of Sunderland to try and weaken an opponent who might be battling relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 looks like swansea are a good bet for the drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 looks like swansea are a good bet for the drop And to think NBC didn't do a special on them, much to CB Fry's chagrin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 And to think NBC didn't do a special on them, much to CB Fry's chagrin. NBC screened Jack To A King instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Ocampos Tall, quick winger apparently. Never heard of him. Done wonders for me in FM2015. Now worth £58m Edited 15 January, 2016 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Townsend in talks with Newcastle. Quite a few previous targets are moving in this window, so some of the tired names mentioned on here will need to be refreshed for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsanderssaint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 As a South american I feel this a little bit offensive. What South American players in general bring is a burning desire to win. They have passion- I look at many Southampton players and it looks like they don't really care if they win or lose. They treat it as a regular day time job. They sing just to go to bigger club, like if the club we love was a stepping stone. Heck, even African players like Mane and Wanyama don't seem to care enough. It's just a case of bad scouting to sing an unprofessional player like Osvaldo. I really don't know about Gaston, but if he feels he has been treated unfairly I would understand. Spent a bit of time in Argentina recently and would consider it my second country - completely agree about desire and passion. I was there during the world cup, and follow the domestic league and am a huge fan. Though I do think that this league is a step up, there are plenty of players who have made that step, and South America is one of the greatest sources of huge talent. Personally think there is the odd player in the top division there who could go on to be good premier league players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Bet there are some regrets at the club over offering Jay Rod that five year deal. Should be massive regrets over it. The worst decision in my eyes this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Should be massive regrets over it. The worst decision in my eyes this summer. Hindsights an easy thing. Now if he had come back and shown 2013/14 form and we didn't offer him a new contract you would be slating that decision too. We took a punt by giving him a new contract, and tbh, I do think he will show his potential soon, but thats with my Saints spectacles on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Hindsights an easy thing. Now if he had come back and shown 2013/14 form and we didn't offer him a new contract you would be slating that decision too. We took a punt by giving him a new contract, and tbh, I do think he will show his potential soon, but thats with my Saints spectacles on Wasn't hindsight at all, he was due back in Januray, then had 3 set-backs. Warning signs were there. Should have given him a 2 year deal to prove his fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Reports that Liverpool are keen on signing Shane Long. According to the Irish Daily Star: "Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp [is] keen on acquiring [shane Long] before the end of the current transfer window". In a radio interview today with Newstalk, Mark McCadden - who broke the story for the Irish Daily Star - added: "Liverpool are definitely interested, and he [Long] is high on [Liverpool’s] list". In my view, Long is a very Rodgers-esque transfer target, but according to Steven Nicol, the Irish international would be a great signing for the club: “They [Liverpool] spent £16m on Balotelli but I would prefer someone like Shane Long. He might not have the same ability, but the fans will love him, [and] he'll give you everything". Reds hero Phil Thompson doesn't share Nicol's enthusiasm for Long, and when asked last season about the possibility of a move to Anfield, he told reporters: “Shane Long has had really good spells this year but I think he’s inconsistent as a goalscorer” Thommo is right - Long's goalscoring inconsistency is there for all to see: * 15 goals in 58 games for Southampton (One every 208 minutes). The last thing Liverpool need is another allegedly attacking player who fails to score/create goals on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 According to the bookies we're faves to get Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 You tease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversaint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Haven't seen this posted elsewhere but a supposed ITK on the QPR forum claims Austin traveled to Southampton last night & has signed a contract already. Probably ****** but thought it was worth mentioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Haven't seen this posted elsewhere but a supposed ITK on the QPR forum claims Austin traveled to Southampton last night & has signed a contract already. Probably ****** but thought it was worth mentioning. Seems feasible given that KBSS is hinting at Austin coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Well this would be a welcome development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Announcement imminent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 If the ITK big dawg is saying it, then get your shirt names printed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Awww exciting. More like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 If the ITK big dawg is saying it, then get your shirt names printed now. Yep, perfect record of ITKness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Regardless of the fact he'd be free in the summer, an England international who scored 18 PL goals in a relegated team for around £8m is absolutely brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 100%, about time we stole a march, rather than wait around and lose out like Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Haven't seen this posted elsewhere but a supposed ITK on the QPR forum claims Austin traveled to Southampton last night & has signed a contract already. Probably ****** but thought it was worth mentioning. Could possibly be a pre contract ? Didn't Ings do that with !iverpool last Jan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Could possibly be a pre contract ? Didn't Ings do that with !iverpool last Jan? I would be amazed if it was not to sign now. Seeing as we struggle to score goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Could possibly be a pre contract ? Didn't Ings do that with !iverpool last Jan? Not as far as I know, I think pre-contracts are only for non-english clubs. I'd imagine this is a signing for here and now. We need goals, he feeds on goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Haven't seen this posted elsewhere but a supposed ITK on the QPR forum claims Austin traveled to Southampton last night & has signed a contract already. Probably ****** but thought it was worth mentioning. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Yep, perfect record of ITKness Would fit with the rumoured Pelle bye bye too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 I've been wary of Austin because of injury record but getting a striker is always exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Would fit with the rumoured Pelle bye bye too. In the summer, maybe. Will be a six month handover. Pelle will not go this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 It also makes me wonder if there was more to the Caulker loan cancellation than meets the eye, maybe talks were happening on a few fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversaint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?191729-Reckon-Charlie-s-Offski-this-month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Link? I just read it came from a Saints fan who is alleged mate of driver who drives the players and picks up players. Yep far fetched !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 I just read it came from a Saints fan who is alleged mate of driver who drives the players and picks up players and drives around. Yep far fetched !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I would agree. But when K Billy speaks. Usually comes off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 I'm shocked to be honest. I thought it was a certainty he'd go on a free in the summer when he could get himself a better financial deal. We have always made sense though as far as he's concerned: local, a team that creates chances and won't be battling relegation. Hope it's true and that we aren't paying too big a fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 This sounds the most likely one now: http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/stoke-city-and-southampton-in-transfer-battle-price-a-little-high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 I'm shocked to be honest. I thought it was a certainty he'd go on a free in the summer when he could get himself a better financial deal. We have always made sense though as far as he's concerned: local, a team that creates chances and won't be battling relegation. Hope it's true and that we aren't paying too big a fee It could be as suggested a pre contract like Ings did at Liverpool. He is just what we need but hope he passes medical unless he gets Delgado doctors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 It could be as suggested a pre contract like Ings did at Liverpool. He is just what we need but hope he passes medical unless he gets Delgado doctors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've never really got the injury prone thing with him. He's played a lot of games over the last 4 or 5 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 It could be as suggested a pre contract like Ings did at Liverpool. He is just what we need but hope he passes medical unless he gets Delgado doctors Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It won't be a pre contract. We're paying now to ensure he signs for us. QPR are probably helping to grease the wheels to get him out the door and move on with signing a replacement. It'll be a signing much any other really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Why would Austin sign for us now but not move till the summer. Nah, be to play at United onwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 It won't be a pre contract. We're paying now to ensure he signs for us. QPR are probably helping to grease the wheels to get him out the door and move on with signing a replacement. It'll be a signing much any other really. Bloody hope so for me he is exactly what we need how many would he have scored v Watford!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 Nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 F5 time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 If true, fair play to Ed Rooney earlier on in the thread for calling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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