saint1977 Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Can you name one other club that would turn down Manuel Pellegrini in favour of Claude Puel? It is just absolute madness. The board better know what they are doing here as the fans expected someone high profile, the players will want someone high profile and instead we've ended up with some bloke with a mediocre record in a not particularly competitive French league. I'm not impressed at all and can't help but feel we've thrown away our chance to bring in a real first class manager. Hope I'm wrong. Thinking the same way as you, not inspiring as an appointment at all. Hope he makes me eat my words though. Sounds like they spoke to him at the time of appointing Koeman so not a random selection I reckon. Mind you, Lowe spoke to Poortvielt and Wotte before appointing Burley so that may not saying much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Comparing the appointment of Puel (if indeed it does happen) to those of Wigley and Gray is ridiculous, there simply is no comparison. Also comparing the decisions made by Lowe to Read is ridiculous. Read has proved for many years that his and other people visions and decisions are sound, whereas Lowe failed miserably at virtually every step. Puel is someone I had never heard about but then I do not really follow other countries football to the same detail as I do here. Reading the various articles and info available on him and he seems like a really good fit to our clear philosophy. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 The only good thing we all know about this Puel guy is that one article. And potentially the stamp of approval from the godfather of English foootball. ! If he's Les reeds choice who are we to question it? This is The man who wrote the manual for coaching in England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Not Pellegrini: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36612539 which implies someone is nearly signed up, I reckon, otherwise Pellegrini would clearly be better than many other options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 I think it's absolute madness to rule out Pellegrini and potentially appoint Puel, would be a very underwhelming appointment if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Not happy. A manager who has a lifetime of experience and technical knowledge is available and wanted the job. Reed didn't want him. Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Going by the unbelievable reactions in this thread, the club have probably pulled one out of the bag again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themasoon Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 It's crazy how many different favourites there have been for the job. Although Puel wasn't my initial favourite I think he's probably the best "fit" for our club. Btw whoever first posted that one article about him is a genius (check my profile you're welcome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 How come that guy on the Sotonians forum is saying that Pellegrini is the number one choice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 So Virgil/Fraser let me introduce you to Manuel . Impressed? Lads this is our new manager Claude Puel.....who??? Sorry not impressed but hey been wrong before just think it's arrogance to reject someone who managed Real and his record compared to Puels Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk do you seriously think that'd be the players reaction? And you honestly don't understand why he'd rank above Pellegrini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 How come that guy on the Sotonians forum is saying that Pellegrini is the number one choice ? He knows 'Jack Schitt'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 do you seriously think that'd be the players reaction? And you honestly don't understand why he'd rank above Pellegrini? JWP had to Google who Ronald Koeman was and he's supposedly one of the more educated and scholarly types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Exactly he has only managed in France a poor win ratio and as you say a Remi Garde potentially. How will he cope with Premiership prima donnas? Am concerned although club has deserved some slack but doesn't stop me being worried we have turned down a top top manager Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You'd think that we'd only turn down someone of that ilk if we knew we had someone we were sure was the better option in the pipeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Going by the unbelievable reactions in this thread, the club have probably pulled one out of the bag again. Basically. Every time the melts on here melt, my club gets stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Apart from Puel's lack of experience managing outside of France, what is everyones beef with him? His track record, both in the league and in europe, seems very good. Quite. Pellegrini's record of finishing behind Leicester despite spending a fortune, and having no track record of actual coaching or nurturing youth, apparently makes him the better man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Stinks of this to be honest Still cannot get my head around the fact its been our most successful season both on & off the pitch yet no obvious 'outstanding' candidate. Even the standard of players we're being linked with are pretty underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Stinks of this to be honest Still cannot get my head around the fact its been our most successful season both on & off the pitch yet no obvious 'outstanding' candidate. Even the standard of players we're being linked with are pretty underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 do you seriously think that'd be the players reaction? And you honestly don't understand why he'd rank above Pellegrini? Why wouldn't it be do you think they suck up every word like you? If you think Puel ranks above Pellegrini with his record you are even more brainwashed than I thought. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Stinks of this to be honest Still cannot get my head around the fact its been our most successful season both on & off the pitch yet no obvious 'outstanding' candidate. Even the standard of players we're being linked with are pretty underwhelming. Probably worth having some faith in the people that keep delivering our year on year improvement? We're Adkins, Pochettino or even Koeman particularly exciting when we got them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Why wouldn't it be do you think they suck up every word like you? If you think Puel ranks above Pellegrini with his record you are even more brainwashed than I thought. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They're experienced footballing professionals. So the answer is 'no' you don't understand why he'd be picked ahead of Pellegrini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Whoever gets the nod I can't wait to see who in the club comes out with the fabled one liner "we got our first choice candidate". Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Basically. Every time the melts on here melt, my club gets stronger. the chances of them ever learning is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Probably worth having some faith in the people that keep delivering our year on year improvement? We're Adkins, Pochettino or even Koeman particularly exciting when we got them in? For me personally, yes, I knew of Pochettino and Koeman before. You might be slightly missing my point, we're a top six club, the names linked aren't your fan's household improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 So let me get this right, the only reason this fella is being written off as trash is because he isn't as well known as Pellegreni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Whoever gets the nod I can't wait to see who in the club comes out with the fabled one liner "we got our first choice candidate". Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Nobody has a clue who our first choice was/is apart from the board. I doubt we set out with a clear first choice in mind, just a list of managers we liked and wanted to speak with them all before deciding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 So let me get this right, the only reason this fella is being written off as trash is because he isn't as well known as Pellegreni? I think it's because he's not pellegrini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 I think it's because he's not pellegrini. I wasn't even that convinced with Pellegrini to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 the chances of them ever learning is zero. Or you ever reading what people write and having the mental capacity to understand we get what the club are doing but sometimes question it when there are options rather than sucking it all up . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 For me personally, yes, I knew of Pochettino and Koeman before. You might be slightly missing my point, we're a top six club, the names linked aren't your fan's household improvement. No, I fully understand your point, getting excited by household names is what the likes of Newcastle do. We're not recruiting a cheap unknown from a footballing backwater if we go with Puel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 And potentially the stamp of approval from the godfather of English foootball. ! If he's Les reeds choice who are we to question it? This is The man who wrote the manual for coaching in England! And look at how brilliant England have done in the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 So let me get this right, the only reason this fella is being written off as trash is because he isn't as well known as Pellegreni? Who is writing him off as trash ? Read what is being written! It's the fact he has only managed in France not a worry and his win ratio ? If he is appointed fine will support him Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 You'd think that we'd only turn down someone of that ilk if we knew we had someone we were sure was the better option in the pipeline No the club want a training ground coach and someone to bring through youth they clearly didn't think that was Pellegrini after talking to him. I get the feeling what the fans are looking for and what the club are looking for is very different right now. Seems to me Les found, in his opinion, the perfect manager/coach in poch and is now looking for someone in the same mould. Looks to me like a bit of a risk and the club may be guilty of being a bit to dogmatic about the "Southampton Way". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Whoever gets the nod I can't wait to see who in the club comes out with the fabled one liner "we got our first choice candidate". Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Shouldn't be to difficult as we seem determined to appoint someone pretty obscure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Is Ronald the first moderately successful European journeyman manager to do well in the Premier League? Garde, Magath and a few others have been spectacular failures in the recent past, while I suppose you could say Flores did a decent job last season after moving around Spain a bit. I must admit, Puel does have a bit of a whiff about him, but it's probably just because he sounds like someone Fulham would have hired ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Or you ever reading what people write and having the mental capacity to understand we get what the club are doing but sometimes question it when there are options rather than sucking it all up . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stick to inventing made up conversations between players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Stick to inventing made up conversations between players. Ok you just stick to being a pathetic arsehole who can't understand a different view . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 Ok you just stick to being a pathetic arsehole who can't understand a different view . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You can't understand why we'd go for Puel, there's not much else to say. Just stick to abuse I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 June, 2016 Share Posted 23 June, 2016 You can't understand why we'd go for Puel, there's not much else to say. Just stick to abuse I guess. FFS read what I have written I get it and totally understand it. I just think Pellegrini was a great option without gambling. You started with the sarcasm . Just to be clear again whoever we appoint will get my support but felt I could voice my disappointed view on this noddy forum . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 JWP had to Google who Ronald Koeman was and he's supposedly one of the more educated and scholarly types. That's a Pompey ST holder for you right there ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 Giggs Manager, with Moyes DOF or Gus Hiddink outright new boss Would love Hiddink . Even made Australia look like a half decent team and they are rubbish Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 Perhaps Koeman was right about our lack of ambition. We had a chance to appoint Pellegrini and we turn him down for what looks likely to be someone with far far inferior experience. It's clearly not a shambles because it's all planned by the club, just a shame that it's now transparent that the people running our club do not want any more progression. Southampton turn down Pellegrini. F*cking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 So let me get this right, the only reason this fella is being written off as trash is because he isn't as well known as Pellegreni? Well, I for one am certainly not writing him off. I'll give him at least 2 games before I do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 We are well known as a stepping stone for players and managers to big clubs. For those players and managers who are nobody in preimer league but have potential and ambition to go to big clubs. Therefore, Pellegreni, Hiddink and other big names are not in. Let's be realistic. We will continue to recruit players you never heard and sell our big players every summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 (edited) Today is a good day to bury bad news. The trouble with appointing good young managers who then do well is they get poached. Appoint a good young manager who then fails, you get relegated. A poisoned chalice then for Reed. My one concern is the club are starting to believe their own PR, ie too much emphasis on "the Southampton way. " Edited 24 June, 2016 by Fitzhugh Fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 I do sometimes wonder about our fans.....turn the clock back 5 years ago and look where we were. Have our board let us down with managerial appointments???...most definately not......would the like of Pellegrini have been remotely interested in Southampton??....definately not. He is interested now because he recognises an extremely well run club that has been making steady progess year on year. I trust the board that they are choosing a manager that fits everything that is good about our club. I don't want a BIG NAME manager just because they are that, a big name. I want a manager that buys into the clubs vision and yes the "Southampton way".....if that turns out to be Puel he will get my backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 Today is a good day to bury bad news. The trouble with appointing good young managers who then do well is they get poached. Appoint a good young manager who then fails, you get relegated. A poisoned chalice then for Reed. My one concern is the club are starting to believe their own PR, ie too much emphasis on "the Southampton way. " .. and also the (smug) belief that because they appointed an unknown in Poch who proved his worth that we have a midas touch that will sniff out a gem every time. As many have alluded to, we may aim for another Poch, but end up with a Remi Garde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 What is the Southampton way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 I do sometimes wonder about our fans.....turn the clock back 5 years ago and look where we were. Have our board let us down with managerial appointments???...most definately not......would the like of Pellegrini have been remotely interested in Southampton??....definately not. He is interested now because he recognises an extremely well run club that has been making steady progess year on year. I trust the board that they are choosing a manager that fits everything that is good about our club. I don't want a BIG NAME manager just because they are that, a big name. I want a manager that buys into the clubs vision and yes the "Southampton way".....if that turns out to be Puel he will get my backing. This, however I am concerned about the so called new direction we are supposed to be following as nobody has been able to identify what that is. I suppose the outcome will be not who our new manager is but who we end up signing on the pitch to replace the few that leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 Today is a good day to bury bad news. The trouble with appointing good young managers who then do well is they get poached. Appoint a good young manager who then fails, you get relegated. A poisoned chalice then for Reed. My one concern is the club are starting to believe their own PR, ie too much emphasis on "the Southampton way. " The Southampton Way is merely a corporate slogan and it sounds like you do not get the difference between a slogan and a culture. The Southampton Way is not a PR slogan it is a particular way of doing things, how people are treated, what the values of the business are, what the objectives, are how they go about achieving those objectives. You can attempt to condone this so often called corporate speak as none sense but the reality is that every single business, every single family or group of friends have their own culture, what they do and what they say and how theŷ think. The Southampton FC culture is ever evolving and is clearly based in sound foundations and has success running through its veins at most levels and areas of the business. This is not the club we had under Askham or Lowe or Wilde which also had a culture.......predominantly a small-minded culture, whereas under the leaders since administration that mindset has changed significantly. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 24 June, 2016 Share Posted 24 June, 2016 Puel is massively underwhelming IMO, sad thing is I knew who he was and that is what is even more underwhelming because I never considered him good enough. At least with more of an unknown there is some excitement with that. To turn down Pellegrini for Puel, can't see the reasons for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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