badgerx16 Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 A quote on BBC News- " The Government continues to function". The lights on the Titanic stayed on until she was half submerged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 36 minutes ago, edprice1984 said: I think this shows more than anything else the resilience and patience of the British public (and Civil service, who are almost entirely running the country while this farce plays out). There would be plenty of countries where we would see people on the streets by now. I think this does prove we need to put something into law which means when a governing party change their leader (ie. the PM) a General Election must be called once a new leader is in place. As it stands I can see this being the end of the Conservative Party as we know it. They will get obliterated at the next election and the rump of the right (ERG/Brexiteers) will either flounce off to join Reform/UKIP or whatever Farage's latest party is, the Centrists may stay as 'Conservatives' but could equally look to join the Lib Dems and they would then once again fight it out against Labour. The ironic thing being that Labour activists who have been called for PR for years will likely suddenly find they have changed their minds once they realise that would mean giving power/seats to the Right/Far right in this country whereas retaining FPTP would likely leave them in the electoral wilderness. In my view, there is no-one left in the current Conservative Party with the broad appeal, political nous or moral backbone to recover this. Some have suggested Boris could return, but he is simply too damaged in the eyes of the general public. Especially after going absent without leave in the dog days of his premiership. At this point he probably realises that he could make significantly more money, carping from the sidelines with little to no consequence. We need a GE desperately - whether we get one is unfortunately down to Conservative back benchers growing a spine. I agree with the thrust of your argument. There is a possibility of a Tory implosion and the party splitting. I do not think the LDs will welcome many if any of the current crop of cowardly backbenchers who have been complicit in facilitating this shit show. The ERG types will claim the party as theirs the centre right one nation mob will claim its as theirs, could end up in court! No matter how much I despise the Tories and their ideology there is a need for a centre right party if only to remind us how self serving a section of our society is. The long standing Tory supporters on here have stopped defending them, claiming they are not true Tories, the problem is they can’t agree amongst themselves what constitutes a true Tory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Best solution to this is Truss resigns, party elects a new leader (amongst MPs) and the first bit of business is to set a date for a general election. Obviously it'll never happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Radio 2 laying into her now ”she is a reckless character who to can pretty much rely on to get things wrong” 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Hhmmm. Maybe the protest votes will be more damaging if this is what happens when a liberal democrat is in charge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 statement from Liz in 10 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: statement from Liz in 10 minutes! Will she tell us she wants growth and is not afraid of difficult decisions? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 General election...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Just now, trousers said: General election...? If only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Resignation I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 20 October, 2022 She specifically said yesterday she is a fighter not a quitter so it cannot possibly be resignation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 The Daily Star lettuce wins 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 2 minutes ago, trousers said: General election...? it wont be but it should be. They are not fit for purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Truss gone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 did she lose to a lettuce? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 One week leadership campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 A week to get the next one in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Fucking woeful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Another leadership election. Happy days. Wonder what Charles said this time? "Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear....." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Well at least she has a legacy of fucking everyone’s mortgages 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 She campaigned for the job the longer she was in it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Case study for how not to govern 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Thread title is alive again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 10 minutes ago, CB Fry said: She specifically said yesterday she is a fighter not a quitter so it cannot possibly be resignation. another U turn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 So, Sunak or Mordaunt then...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Even the weather's brightened up in the last ten minutes here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Hunt rules himself out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 5 minutes ago, trousers said: So, Sunak or Mordaunt then...? Saint or skate - now let me think which one gets my vote ……….. neither cos they’re both Tory cunts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Saint or skate - now let me think which one gets my vote ……….. neither cos they’re both Tory cunts. might as well give a POC a go, the last two women have been dreadful. The rate they're going through them If they can get a LGBT and a disabled one in by the time of the next general election they'd have ticked every box. Edited 20 October, 2022 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 9 minutes ago, whelk said: There you go, she did achieve some growth! Personally I'm hoping for a Braverman and Patel dream ticket with JRM on keyboard, John Redwood lead guitar and Dorries on drums. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 A general election is the only way forward. Sadly the entitled Tory party and their sycophantic supporters will continue to act in their own best interests. They have no patriotism, no dignity and no honour. Starting with the Brexit referendum, purely called because Cameron was a coward and could not manage his own party we have seen this pathetic excuse for a political party dive to ever lower depths to maintain their grip on power, and all at the expense of our country and our people. They must go, and go now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 How the hell can the justify anything other than a GE? The Tory party is a complete mess, whoever they put in charge won't have any sort of mandate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 8 minutes ago, moonraker said: A general election is the only way forward. Sadly the entitled Tory party and their sycophantic supporters will continue to act in their own best interests. They have no patriotism, no dignity and no honour. Starting with the Brexit referendum, purely called because Cameron was a coward and could not manage his own party we have seen this pathetic excuse for a political party dive to ever lower depths to maintain their grip on power, and all at the expense of our country and our people. They must go, and go now. Absolutely. Everyone can see that a GE is the only option from here. Id hope that any new ‘prime minster’ does this as their first job, call a General election and let the country decide. They can’t seem to make the right decisions themselves and have lost any authority to govern in my eyes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 As posted on the main board, her premiership has seen more Monarchs than Saints wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Whoever is stupid enough to become the leader of this pathetic party will be signing up for failure. Who in their right mind would want to lead them, not just as PM but at a General Election. Whoever does accept the post either accepts that they are a sacrificial lamb, or they are just another arrogant narcissistic twat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Absolutely. Everyone can see that a GE is the only option from here. Id hope that any new ‘prime minster’ does this as their first job, call a General election and let the country decide. They can’t seem to make the right decisions themselves and have lost any authority to govern in my eyes. I agree....but turkeys don't vote for Christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: I agree....but turkeys don't vote for Christmas. The result of the Brexit vote suggests otherwise. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 4 minutes ago, moonraker said: Whoever is stupid enough to become the leader of this pathetic party will be signing up for failure. Who in their right mind would want to lead them, not just as PM but at a General Election. Whoever does accept the post either accepts that they are a sacrificial lamb, or they are just another arrogant narcissistic twat. And that in itself is the problem- just rinse and repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 7 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: And that in itself is the problem- just rinse and repeat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Was the previous leadership contest longer than her actual leadership? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 (edited) Graham Brady just talking . It seems that the members will get a say in the new leader. FFS. What dud will they vote in this time? Haven't they realised that the blue rinse brigade are as good at choosing winners as a one legged man has winning an arse kicking competition. Edited 20 October, 2022 by Tamesaint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 (edited) She looks relieved frankly. Brady bricking it with the journalists, journalists insisting on a GE. So do I. I won’t recognise whoever they select unless there is a GE as being permitted for them to be chosen by the electorate to govern me. If Sunak or Mordaunt are confident, go to the country. It’ll be Sunak but Boris’s and Truss’s followers will make much trouble for him. Whatever they do, millions face higher mortgage payments and families will end up homeless and without lighting and heating because of the crazed actions of the Conservative Party. They can stick their fake unity up their arses, and if they want respect, call a GE now and stay away from power for many, many years. As an example, Peterborough MP insisting on Boris returning, Red Wall MP saying Sunak. Brady saying membership part of process! Brexit was supposed to be partly about not being governed by unelected politicians! Boris still has to face a Standards Committee too. Edited 20 October, 2022 by saint1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 We are a laughing stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: She specifically said yesterday she is a fighter not a quitter so it cannot possibly be resignation. The final u turn. Commitment to triple lock back on the table again then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 But I thought she’s not a quitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: Graham Brady just talking . It seems that the members will get a say in the new leader. FFS. What dud will they vote in this time? Haven't they realised that the blue rinse brigade are as good at choosing winners as a one legged man has winning an arse kicking competition. Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 Looking forward to the return... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 20 October, 2022 Share Posted 20 October, 2022 5 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Looking forward to the return... Just in time for the Standards and Privileges Committee to sanction him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 20 October, 2022 We need a new bloody thread already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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